CIS

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Just read an article about the Supreme Court judgement today. It repeatedly refers to Cis women. I get so unbelievably annoyed by that term.

I am not a ‘Cis’ woman. I just hate the term. If you want to be a trans woman, fine. That’s what you are. Don’t make me the other side of your imaginary coin. Don’t make me call myself something I’m not. Don’t make me part of your ‘We’re all just at various points on the woman spectrum’ nonsense.

There are women. And there are trans women. Two entirely different things.

Exactly that. It’s infuriating in its self-contradictory presumption.

You’re sourcing your news from the wrong places: all the mainstream media is using “biological” as per the judgement.

Seriously, today’s a day to celebrate, not get dragged back into all the old grievances.

You're being incredibly, incredibly naive.

That's how people end up "ruled" and "conquered". Being neutral and laissez faire under the #bekind guise.

You have to think long term. One step ahead. What's the ultimate goal ? Where is this leading ?

It's very plain , that "equality" is not the end goal here. If it was, we'd pretty much be kind of there (or as there as you can reasonably get) without compromising the needs of the majority.

First It's a request for one thing , then it ramps up, they want another thing, then more, then even more, then before you know it - here we are pretzling ourselves on calling only females "women" and allowing male criminals to apply some lippy and insert themselves into women's sports and prisons. Wake up! It's happening!

What next ? Women are no longer allowed to call themselves women ? They have to use another term Instead so that men can be called women ?..... Oh wait..... ( ciswomen) and bingo !!

This isn't just happening with the trans movement either. This is happening wide scale. Our way of life that has worked for millennia is coming to a close by today's standards - at this rate, we'll just all be bloody wiped out !

We must get balance back , equality should never progress to domination - from any group of people.

Just want to point out that the article you read may well have been hateful towards women, but the Supreme Court ruling itself does not refer to women in this manner at all and none of its findings can be applied to the group of biological women who also claim a female gender identity. Which makes the article’s use of the slur even less acceptable and gives more grounds for a complaint to the PCC if the publisher is a member.

No! Women are women and transwomen are men. They aren't another kind of woman at all, that nonsense is how we got to 'cis'.

There are only women and men. A flat-chested female in male-coded attire is a woman. I'll call her Bruce if she likes. She can call herself a man, a transman, a woman or a teapot. She's still a woman. Yesterday's ruling means that her choice of self-definition doesn't override reality.

And the reality is that there are no extra sexes in humanity, with or without prefixes.

I was put off at the Woolwich works and Glyndebourne with their labelling. G still won't reply to me as a member about this. I have been polite but have said that I expected to be consulted as a member and I hoped they were not enforcing these beliefs on staff without appropriate consultation.

No one need use CIS after today. We are just woman. And men who like to dress like women.

Wrong. Trans-identifying male is a term used by some who recognise biological reality, but transactivists hate that term Transwoman was invented as the deliberately confusing term for such men. Transman = Trans-identifying female.

No, the term cis is literally the only thing in the entire world that bugs me. @ThatNimblePeer is totally right, and I commend her for both her perceptiveness and her contribution to the debate.
Before posting, I thought long and hard about global events, my own family, the difficulties large and small that I’ve had in my life. And you know what? I concluded that everything on planet Earth is totally wonderful and not worthy of comment except for this one thing.

No, i sourced it from The Guardian, but thanks for telling me where I got my article from. I didn’t link it because it’s so annoying, but here you go.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/16/supreme-court-definition-woman-judges-law

That’s hardly an impartial report, as an opinion piece it’s very clear where the author sits. He’s bending over backwards to say the judgement will make no difference, which makes you wonder why the Scottish government allowed it to go so far. Except it will make a significant difference to the rights of women, and he knows it.

I work in an adult education setting & we definitely do not use the term

Indeed. The law states that women are biological women. It is enough now that we have legal clarification to simply use the terms ‘woman’ and ‘trans woman’. ‘Cis’ needs to be expunged from the cultural vocabulary used by social media and academia.

Agree op.
Someone once tried referring to me as a cis woman. It didn’t go down well and that didn’t try and pull that bollocks again.
Can you imagine men being told they are cis men?

Your feeling is wrong. Although that would make more sense than the shitshow they’ve managed to push all these years. If your pro-trans sentiments are based on this assumption then its no wonder you think TERFs are unreasonable!

Transman or Trans Man is a female person who most likely has an unnecessary double mastectomy, short hair and stuffs her pants with a fake willy to give her that big dick energy. Extra points for taking testosterone so that her vagina atrophies and she ends up sterile and with irreversible damage to hair growth, voice etc.

Transwoman is a male person who has implanted or strap on boobs and enjoys the feeling of wearing women’s clothes and make up (beard optional) because it’s “affirming”. They usually also still have a penis, but apparently its softer, more fragrant and delicate than a regular penis. May or may not take oestrogen and very rarely may go on to have a neo-vagina constructed out of a piece of bowel. This is an absolutely pointless piece of anatomy fulfilling none of the function of an actual vagina (gateway to the uterus) but makes a handy extra hole, which i guess is the only important function of a vagina to some people.

I think then the would simply say that you were born a female and you are a woman because you feel that you are a woman. Also wrong. I was born female and am a woman because I’m an adult who was born female.

There is no need for any clarification.
It’s simply woman or trans woman.
Man or trans man.
The end,
I won’t be engaging with anyone who can’t follow this.

I think your classification seems more complex

I think it's important to put the person first and then the condition: "man with dysphoria".
Factually correct but, if easier, "man and dysphoria aka MAD man".

Oh God I despair

How can it be that it’s offensive to call a trans woman a man against his wishes it not offensive for someone to refer to a woman as cis against hers?

It is infuriating having a label imposed on you by other people. I think you have to have lived a charmed life not to realise why it might be issue.

I hate the term too, I have no issue with trans women calling themselves simply ‘women’ but I shouldn’t have to redefine myself.

All the ‘you’ve had an easy life if that’s all you’ve got to worry about’ posters. People can be bothered about more than one thing, at the same time, whilst going through life. The end.

If transwomen call themselves simply 'women', you, as a biological woman, are already redefined. 🙄

And yes. Cis makes me want to rip my knitting. I won’t take anyone seriously who uses it and will judge them to fuck.