CIS

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Just read an article about the Supreme Court judgement today. It repeatedly refers to Cis women. I get so unbelievably annoyed by that term.

I am not a ‘Cis’ woman. I just hate the term. If you want to be a trans woman, fine. That’s what you are. Don’t make me the other side of your imaginary coin. Don’t make me call myself something I’m not. Don’t make me part of your ‘We’re all just at various points on the woman spectrum’ nonsense.

There are women. And there are trans women. Two entirely different things.

Yet the possibility that women don't need to identify as women seems to be a thought experiment much too hard for you to grasp.

Despite every woman in this thread telling you the same thing......

I mean, I have about as much idea how a person in a coma feels as a trans woman does about how women feel.

No, just trying to hold you to account. Nobody understands this "innate feelings" except apparently you as you keep using the phrase.

#bekind and explain it please. Nobody else has ever managed it over the years.

It is a completely redundant word, especially since the recent ruling. There are women, transmen, men and transwomen. No need for this word 'cis' at all.

What did the Romans ever do for us anyway?

Why are you bringing Romans into it?

This odd coinage of a Latin term mostly used in chemistry dates from the 1990s, it has nothing to do with Romans.

I mean the etymology of the word is Roman by definition so has a reasonable amount to do with them 😂

Yes, please do. You seem very sure that there is an innate feeling that makes you knkw you're a woman, which you firmly insist is common to all women (an presumably men who identify as women, in spite of the fact that they've never been a woman). And yet you haven't given even the most basic explanation of this feeling or what it feels like. Neither has anyone else.

I have a theory about why nobody has described it. It's because if you did, it would become immediately obvious that this so-called innate feeling (which transwomen often claim to have) is actually nothing but an enthusiasm for a collection of sexist stereotypes, usually centred around swishy clothing and oudated ideas of feminine behaviour.

Hate it. I’ve heard it a few times in rl and it always makes me think the person using it it is an idiotic handmaiden. (Have only heard it from women).

It’s not a “describing word” because “trans women” are men, and so by the logic that women are female adult humans (which most people in the world understand to be the case) a “trans woman” would be a female human who identifies as the opposite sex, ie she identifies as a man. But your ideology doesn’t use it that way.

I don't identify as a woman, I just happen to be one.

So your argument is semantics. Thank you for saying my arguments form an ideology by the way!
So you would put forward that trans women are people born female and identify as male, cis women are born female and identify as female and in reverse, trans men are born male but identify as female and cis men are born male and identify as male.
Makes sense I guess.

Given that "cis" means "female" when used as a prefix for "woman" and "male" when used as a prefix for "man", it isn't describing anything at all and is a completely redundant word.

No, women are women and trans women are men who want everyone to pretend they are women.

It really isn't any more complicated than that.

Very good point @MissScarletInTheBallroom

You’re welcome! Enjoy the ideological jargon of your fringe and increasingly unfashionable world view.

But that's not what you argued 😂

I have hair swept back actually.

That’s why I said it was a good point, it wasn’t one I’d made 🙄

@Bogginsthe3rd is getting lots of attention here aren’t they? I suppose the provocative nature of their posts achieves their aim, whilst @Bogginsthe3rd tries to find their way out of the maze!

@Bogginsthe3rd , women on this thread are telling you that they do not identify as women, they just are women.

Do you feel like a human being or a fish? Are
you a human being as opposed to being a fish? I don’t think there is an answer to that because no human being could ever claim to be a fish, because we are not fish and don’t feel
like fish, or maybe we do and are according to your philosophy.

IF and a very big IF, one did claim to be a fish, or feel like a fish, even you would consider that there were MH issues going on.

Therefore, no man can be a woman because they are not! They may claim to be, but let’s consider the fish!

@Bogginsthe3rd Please expound on your philosophy. These bitesized post of yours deserve development!

Agree @Iammatrix

@MissScarletInTheBallroom

you are absolutely correct it’s very straightforward

the complexity of the issue is the individual who wants to believe they are the opposite sex. It’s not a complex issue for anyone else

🤣🤣

@Bogginsthe3rd is being very selective with the questions she/he is answering.