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To find this bizarre? Friend and soap

593 replies

SplodgePocket · 15/04/2025 18:56

A friend came around earlier as I had a half day. Before she left, she said she was just popping to the loo. I then heard her call a minute later, “Splodge? There’s no soap”.

I have a dispenser, so I assumed it had run out and called back that there was some on the side of the bath. There was a pause and she called back, “No, not here”. I knew it was there so replied, “Just against the wall, behind the shower screen”. Again, a pause before a bewildered “No…”

I was completely confused now, as I knew very well it was there. I went through to the hall and she was standing in the doorway looking baffled. I went in, looked behind the screen and sure enough, there it was. I handed it to her and said, “Here, see?”

She burst out laughing and said, “Ohhhhh!! It’s shower gel!!” I was a bit confused and replied, “Well yes; soap, shower gel… whatever”. She was smiling at me a bit like I was a child who’d made a comical mistake. She said, “You said soap. This is shower gel. Show-er gel.” With the last bit really slowly, like she wasn’t sure English was my first language.

I was really taken aback. Who is this bizarrely literal? Surely it’s all pretty much the same thing? I thought maybe she was looking for a bar of soap and this was what had confused her somehow, but surely when you couldn’t see it you’d think “it must be the stuff in the bottle”? And even if you didn’t, wouldn’t you just have used the shower gel anyway?

I’ve never noticed her take things so literally before. Is it me or is this just really odd?!

OP posts:
Catwoman8 · 15/04/2025 20:18

I'm with your friend on this one, it feels too intrusive to start looking through someones toiletries in the absence of soap!

NewJobNewHours · 15/04/2025 20:19

Totally with you that it is fine to wash hands with shower gel, if no soap. I would help myself to some if there was no hand wash / soap left by the sink.

EarthSight · 15/04/2025 20:20

You're probably a highly practical person who doesn't not subscribe to doing things the way other people do them, just to fit in.

That's ok, but I can tell you with certainty that most people would find it odd that you use shower gel as hand soap. I totally get why you do (because actually, I've found that shower gel is gentler on the skin as most hand soaps), but other people don't think in that way and they would see using shower gel as hand soap as unconventional.

Her reaction sounded a bit much though as there was no need to be patronising in response to you.

EarthSight · 15/04/2025 20:20

ZenNudist · 15/04/2025 20:01

Jesus 14 posts at last count from you because you'd run out of hand-wash in the dispenser next to the sink and were not capable of telling friend to use the shower gel and friend was so desperate soap she's shouting about it from the bathroom but won't use a bit of shower gel (which is liquid soap whatever anyone might say). You sound like a right pair.

😂

RedHelenB · 15/04/2025 20:21

Summertimeblahness · 15/04/2025 18:58

I wouldn’t think to wash my hands with shower gel to be honest.

This. She didn't want a shower, she wanted soap to wash her hands after using the toilet. I have shower gel on the side of bath a d hand soap on the side of the basin.

hereismydog · 15/04/2025 20:22

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 15/04/2025 20:14

What do the people who are worrying about bum bacteria from bar soap do about using liquid soap? Everybody touches the pump dispenser, but unlike bar soap the pump is not routinely rinsed clean by shedding a layer of soap.

@hereismydog They also have aseptic techniques and foot or elbow operated taps. Not things that are usually found in household bathrooms or public conveniences. Because people using household bathrooms generally aim for clean, not asepsis.

Edited

You touch the pump dispenser, but you don’t usually roll the dispenser in your hands…

Also, not everything is aseptic. Most clinical procedures I perform aren’t. The aim is clean, but infection control would quite rightly read us the riot act if they discovered a bar of soap in a clinical area. Current IPC guidelines (you can look them up for yourself) explicitly state that bar soap is not acceptable.

housethatbuiltme · 15/04/2025 20:23

I wouldn't think you meant shower gel.

Shower gel isn't a communal item for day guests popping to the loo, I use oil based scrub not gel but its wildly different to hand soap.

Your thinking is very much the same as my father who used the same bottle of fairy liquid for the dishes, floor, his hands, shampoo, clean the dog, to clean the van etc... 'its all just soap'.

HidingFromDD · 15/04/2025 20:23

Having only one bottle of washing type liquid that you have to move around the bathroom is odd, but you’ve already explained that it was an oversight that the dispenser had run out. I am finding (mainly at work tbh) that people are reluctant just to take a bit of initiative and instead expect a clearly itemised list of exactly what to do, and then seem to take pleasure in pointing out any slight inaccuracies in your instructions. I mean, she needed something which had washing capabilities and you’d given her permission to use what was by the bath, how difficult is it?

Tangerinenets · 15/04/2025 20:25

I would just use whatever I could find but do have hand soaps by the edge of each sink.

PrincessofWells · 15/04/2025 20:26

Shame on you for not using a bar of soap - please tell me you at least take your single use plastic bottles to be refilled?

soupyspoon · 15/04/2025 20:27

Summertimeblahness · 15/04/2025 19:03

Maybe you could have said, ‘just use the shower gel’.

Yes this, its ok to use shower gel, it is soap, but I'd think that you were pointing me to something called soap, I wouldnt think of using your shower gel, I might think you didnt want me to use your shower gel

YABU

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 15/04/2025 20:28

DappledThings · 15/04/2025 20:12

This isn't the set up at all.

OP does not only use shower gel and expect herself or guests to go hunting for it every time. It was instead of the normal soap dispenser, by the sink, which was unexpecdly empty.

Cancel the cheque, cancel the bizarre misreading that she doesn’t have soap as standard

I wasn't responding to OP; I was responding to the PP whom I quoted, who seemed to be scoffing at the idea that anybody might buy both products, as they're both chemically similar.

miraxxx · 15/04/2025 20:30

SenselessDrivel · 15/04/2025 19:14

If you had no shower gel would you have told them to get the soap from the kitchen when you only had washing up liquid or washing powder/capsules?

My friend doesn’t have hand soap in her kitchen and just uses washing up liquid, we had a similar discussion when she just told me to use the “liquid soap”. I was looking for a liquid soap dispenser and it didn’t occur to me that she meant the fairy liquid! Yes they would both clean hands but I was looking for a specific thing.

I get expensive molten brown or rituals shower gel as presents, I’d be a bit annoyed if guests took it from the shower and used it as hand soap when it’s over £20 a bottle.

I see them all as different things with different uses despite them having similar ingredients, I’d assume everyone else does.

Exactly. My laundry detergent, washing up fluid, shampoo, shower gel and handwash are all soap and yet all are formulated slighly differently and have different price points. Even if I wasnt fussy, I wouldnt expect guests to make do with anything they find in the bathroom. OP is unreasonable.

Iwannakeepondancing · 15/04/2025 20:30

Ok you’re the odd one here!
Yes it’s all the same probably and no I wouldn’t care about washing my hands with shower gel BUT why would she think to look for shower gel? She was looking for hand wash and couldn’t find it! It’s odd you’d think she would know to grab the SHOWER GEL to wash her hands! If it was in an unlabelled bottle behind the shower screen then yes maybe!

0ohLarLar · 15/04/2025 20:30

. I think I would have shouted that we're out of hand wash, just use the shower gel!

This

DappledThings · 15/04/2025 20:31

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 15/04/2025 20:28

I wasn't responding to OP; I was responding to the PP whom I quoted, who seemed to be scoffing at the idea that anybody might buy both products, as they're both chemically similar.

Fair enough. Yours was one of multiple posters who seem to have got entirely the wrong end of the stick. Or the wrong end of the bar of soap. I picked the wrong one to quote, there were many to choose from!

hereismydog · 15/04/2025 20:31

PrincessofWells · 15/04/2025 20:26

Shame on you for not using a bar of soap - please tell me you at least take your single use plastic bottles to be refilled?

If that was to me, could you perhaps read my post properly before you ring the ‘shame’ bell.

I very clearly said that I wouldn’t use bar soap at other people’s houses. I use smol products at home, if you’re that curious. HTH

Pippinsdiary · 15/04/2025 20:35

Catwoman8 · 15/04/2025 20:18

I'm with your friend on this one, it feels too intrusive to start looking through someones toiletries in the absence of soap!

Oh my god. She’s not asking her to look through her toiletries, she directed her to it… on the side of her bath. People on here are getting battier by the day

tygertygers · 15/04/2025 20:35

I feel like I’ve entered the twilight zone on this thread. All these people saying they’d never use shower gel to wash their hands, wtf. Who gives a shit, I wouldn’t think twice if the soap dispenser was empty! You’re not the weird one, OP.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 15/04/2025 20:36

Catwoman8 · 15/04/2025 20:18

I'm with your friend on this one, it feels too intrusive to start looking through someones toiletries in the absence of soap!

Yep - hand wash is a 'public' facility for anybody who is visiting to help themselves to when washing their hands after using the toilet; whereas the bath/shower is a more 'personal' part of the bathroom, which you wouldn't normally go looking around in if you were just a daytime visitor.

Also, plenty of people like to buy expensive/luxury bath and shower products for their own use. I can just see another thread on here complaining about 'CF friend who snooped behind my shower screen when she'd only gone in there to use the loo and touched and used my posh expensive shower gel to wash her hands after having a poo'!

Tulippilut · 15/04/2025 20:37

latetothefisting · 15/04/2025 20:01

no, from OP's subsequent updates there were two different bottles.

she has a soap dispenser on the sink which usually has liquid handwash/soap in. Because that had run out she wanted the friend to instead use a bottle of shower gel, in a shower gel bottle, that was on the side of the bath. But instead of saying 'Use the shower gel' she told her friend there was more soap on the side of the bath.

Oh ok, yeah that changes it , I’m with the friend here !

redbusbeepbeep · 15/04/2025 20:37

Pippinsdiary · 15/04/2025 20:35

Oh my god. She’s not asking her to look through her toiletries, she directed her to it… on the side of her bath. People on here are getting battier by the day

It’s unreal, I’m sure people just do it for a reaction

soupyspoon · 15/04/2025 20:38

tygertygers · 15/04/2025 20:35

I feel like I’ve entered the twilight zone on this thread. All these people saying they’d never use shower gel to wash their hands, wtf. Who gives a shit, I wouldn’t think twice if the soap dispenser was empty! You’re not the weird one, OP.

Its not about not using shower gel, most people would use that if out of hand soap, but in someone elses house, when directed to 'the soap', thats what you would look for. All OP had to do, was say, you can use the shower gel its on the edge of the bath

I find shower gel a lot thicker than handsoap also.

TropicofCapricorn · 15/04/2025 20:39

Pushmepullyou · 15/04/2025 18:59

I would wash my hands with shower gel if there was no soap. But it’s not soap

What do you think is different to shower gel and liquid hand soap?

TropicofCapricorn · 15/04/2025 20:40

Tulippilut · 15/04/2025 20:37

Oh ok, yeah that changes it , I’m with the friend here !

Shower gel IS soap.

Why do you think it's different?

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