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To ask a friend for her 15yo to stay at home?

178 replies

Saladleaves17 · 14/04/2025 17:51

Every year my friendship group does an annual day out to somewhere a bit more fun/expensive than your usual day out. All the kids (12) are currently under 5 apart from my friends SS who is now 15. It was working well up until a couple of years ago when my friends SS turned 13 and understandably lost interest in playing with toddlers including his younger sister.

We’ve always done things more aimed towards the 15yo as the others were too young to really care about what they were doing but the last two years, the 15yo has spent the day walking round behind the group, on his phone, not wanting to socialise with any of the kids or adults. I don’t blame him, he’s a teenager, but it was obvious he didn’t really want to be there and would rather be with his friends or girlfriend than all of us.

This year, as the younger kids are getting older we suggested going somewhere that was more aimed towards that age range as they make up most of the group. Mum is still insistent on bringing the 15yo and is making it impossible to arrange anything, as everything that is suggested she turns down as it’s too young for her teenager and he would be bored.

I completely understand she wants to include him but as the years go on, I also get the impression she only really wants him at places to babysit his younger sister so she can spend the day chatting. She is always talking about how much hard work and how annoying her toddler is and when ever we see them throughout the year it’s always the 15yo doing most of the parenting. In my opinion the poor kid is being dragged around to act as babysitter for his little sister when his parents cba. We are then taking a group of 12 toddlers to places they don’t or can’t enjoy because they are too small to cater for the 15 year old - who then spends the whole day miserable and not wanting to socialise with anyone. It just seems like a waste of money for the majority of the group as we are only going to these places for the 15yo who then doesn’t enjoy himself anyway.

After her declining suggestions from several people in our friendship group, I suggested to his mum that maybe he would prefer to go out with his friends/girlfriend/other family members for the day instead of coming out with us this year and she went absolutely mad about it and is taking it very personally. I heard the whole ‘you’re only saying that because he was my child first’ basically referring to the fact he is a SS, which is just ridiculous considering we have all always bent over backwards to include him in everything from day 1 (which was several years ago).

Now I’m sitting here second guessing myself, was I being unreasonable to suggest he might prefer to stay with friends this year?

OP posts:
BigHeadBertha · 14/04/2025 22:26

Well, I guess it's expected for friend groups to change through the years, for various reasons. It could be that she (and her husband) end up dropping out from you and the rest of the group.

In fact, it could be that's what she's trying to bring about, with her unreasonable and self-centered attitude.

Codlingmoths · 14/04/2025 22:28

And poor little 3yo. I’d have a response prepared for when she sulks out. ‘Ok Sophie we understand. <Sophie’s partner> couldn’t you bring the little one though, she always seems to have such fun when we get out? It is always nice for little siblings to have activities that are their thing.’

Lyannaa · 14/04/2025 22:33

Saladleaves17 · 14/04/2025 20:40

I didn’t insist he didn’t come, I asked her if she thought he might prefer to stay at home as she shut down every suggestion that was made. It seemed that he wouldn’t be happy with anything so asked if he would prefer to spend the day with his friends or girlfriend.

In that case YANBU at all.

Pinkyhere · 14/04/2025 22:34

Silvertulips · 14/04/2025 18:36

You put up a poll -

Say we can do X on date or date
or Y or Date or date

X is ££

Y is £££

We will choose the majority vote and leave it at that.

Everyone can do one or both.

Then the balls in her court - stop pandering to her.

I totally agree.
Put up poll and then back away from being in charge of the plans

Therealjudgejudy · 14/04/2025 22:36

She sounds like a bloody nightmare!

You all need to stop pandering to her

Booboobagins · 14/04/2025 22:37

His mum's a self centred AH. She should be offering him the opportunity to do something else. You did the right thing trying to intervene for him. The prob is he's her SS so she gets to decide what he does.

Poor kid I feel very sorry for him having to put up with a whole gaggle of little kids with nothing he can get excited about. Yeh! Funtimes for all (not). :(

LBFseBrom · 14/04/2025 22:45

Loopytiles · 14/04/2025 17:53

Just set the place to suit the majority of the group and invite her and her DC, if she declines so be it.

That.

To be honest, I am surprised he is up for a day out with his mum's friends and young children anyway. He probably has other things to do. It's almost unfair to expect him to be there but .... wait and see.

OneFineDay13 · 14/04/2025 22:53

You aren't being unreasonable. She sounds like a selfish twat

4forksache · 14/04/2025 22:55

Can you get another friend to put the poll up so all the ire isn’t directed at you?

Sleepington · 14/04/2025 23:05

Hankunamatata · 14/04/2025 18:20

Surely a 15 year old would like legoland well enough. He could take himself off

I can't imagine any 15 year old enjoying Legoland but the preschoolers would of course love it.

Could the 15 year old bring a friend at least so the two of them could wander around together/get food etc?

Mypoorbody · 14/04/2025 23:16

Way too complicated
Stick up a poll and say that the most popular choice by x date will be what’s happening. If a tie then vote between those two.

Also if you’ve done the heavy lifting this and previous years then after the event add to the chat that you looking forward to next time but as life is very busy at the moment you won’t be taking the lead. To be honest even if you didn’t have this person to deal with it’s good to let someone else do it and relax.

paddyclampster · 14/04/2025 23:20

YANBU. This friend doesn’t have one redeeming feature! Feel sorry for both kids!

ProudScoutMum · 14/04/2025 23:26

How about Chessington, animals and some smaller rides for the little ones and some faster stuff for the teenager. It was always a favourite when ours were younger.

Kitkatcatflap · 14/04/2025 23:36

Seriously, you need to ring your friend. You keep saying you have known him since school, so why are you dealing with the mum? Call him and explain the situation 12 under 5's and one bored 15 year old. Mum can take the 15 year old go-karting and friend can join you with the daughter on a toddlers trip. Go karting is great fun but hideously expensive for not very long, perhaps they can meet you later for food.

ProudScoutMum · 14/04/2025 23:38

Sorry hadn't refreshed the page and seen all the other posts, Chessington also has aquarium and Go Ape could you maybe all go together and they go and do that together while your friend walks around with you and then meet up for food not sure what they have on site now but the hotel restaurant is quite nice

herbalteabag · 14/04/2025 23:39

I'm surprised he hasn't just refused to go, my son would have. It would have been his worst nightmare, hanging around with me and my friends plus lots of small children. But in any case, the place shouldn't just be chosen with him in mind.

Needspaceforlego · 14/04/2025 23:45

Op are the Dads going on this outing too or is it a mums and kids thing?

Silvertulips · 14/04/2025 23:50

I actually think you are over involved with the woman!

Make a decision - we are doing X on Y date - all welcome.

You aren’t excluding her/him - they can choose not to come.

Isittimeformynapyet · 14/04/2025 23:53

I've read three pages. Thanks to everyone who's explained to OP that once she has her poll results she should "pick the one with the most votes."

It's been an education.

BlondiePortz · 14/04/2025 23:56

Loopytiles · 14/04/2025 17:53

Just set the place to suit the majority of the group and invite her and her DC, if she declines so be it.

Yes, it doesn't need to be more complex than this

Mumtobabyhavoc · 15/04/2025 00:02

Saladleaves17 · 14/04/2025 22:03

He doesn’t get involved.

I agree with you about the toddler. Would have been a different story entirely if she was a boy. The mum only wanted a boy so when she came out a girl she wasn’t happy. I thought she had PND to begin with but her little girl is 3 now and she doesn’t have anything nice to say about her - not that I’ve ever heard anyway. Also going on about how much of a pain she is and how boys are so much easier than girls etc. The poor kid spends her weekends watching her older brother play football and do karate. It’s why I really wanted her to come out with us as it’s the only opportunity she gets to spend fun time with kids her own age!

Jeezus, that's crap. 😔

Codlingmoths · 15/04/2025 00:11

Isittimeformynapyet · 14/04/2025 23:53

I've read three pages. Thanks to everyone who's explained to OP that once she has her poll results she should "pick the one with the most votes."

It's been an education.

And hopefully some more people explain that as the op has instead gone back to the whole group and said oh <selfish fucker and shit parent> we do indeed revolve around you, what would you like to do?

Garedenhelp · 15/04/2025 00:16

Her suggestion of a train ride and park sounds good for the under 5s so what's your problems with that? There was no need for you to suggest he not come that's up to him and his parents.

You made it sound like they want the day to revolve around the wants of their son and that doesn't appear to be the case.

It sounds like you don't like the suggestion as its far for you and close for them, so why make it about her son?

SenselessDrivel · 15/04/2025 00:42

Did you finally get it sorted OP?

TunipTheVegimal24 · 15/04/2025 00:52

When I was 15, I was out at gigs or with my bf when I wasn't at sixth form... surely that's pretty standard?

Is he being forced to go to these events, or does he want to? Whole thing sounds a bit odd tbf, YANBU.