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Crashed a wedding brunch with son. Evicted by Sister-in-law

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Weddingbrunchcrasher · 14/04/2025 14:05

Partner’s sister got married on Saturday. Partner asked if my 8 year old could come but was told no.

She only wanted her other brother’s daughter as a bridesmaid. Her other brother’s three stepchildren were not invited, the youngest of whom is thirteen.

I then asked her directly if I could bring him in the evening, she said that she wasn’t having an evening do but the invitation clearly went into the evening, what she said was she meant a separate evening do. No extra guests were coming in the evening.

Ex wasn’t available to look after son but he had a sleepover with a friend but they were heading off at 9:00 in the morning so I had to leave hotel to collect my son. Partner didn’t have a separate car and it didn’t occur to me that it would be a problem to head back to hotel with my son for the brunch they had arranged.

Again just did not occur to me that it would be a problem.

So we arrive and queue to get into breakfast area where I assumed brunch was but it was in a separate room and only my name was down they refused to allow my son in. I refused to leave him to go into brunch to ask if he could come in.

Partner had left phone so finally the brunch spilled out to the lawn and we joined them. We were both starving so I went to get plates. His sister came over to my son and essentially asked him to leave, sort of gently by asking him to go out on lawn with my partner. Partner left with us and we had breakfast in the pubic bit.

I actually started to cry over breakfast, then my son did. I am ashamed of myself for this.

I get I was unreasonable over wedding but the Brunch surely I wasn’t. Did I make too many assumptions?

Bride and groom have met my son. We have lived together for a year.

Partner is a bit shocked but obviously it was their actual wedding.

OP posts:
Lucelady · 14/04/2025 18:00

I find this thread absolutely awful. Weddings are about love whatever religion or none.
To refuse a child a sausage and melon is disgusting.
How many marriages end in divorce? 50%. This child's mother is single parent who knows what trauma her and her son went through. I personally wouldn't join this family.

LadyGillingham · 14/04/2025 18:00

Why were you so desperate to go ??

Treblechef · 14/04/2025 18:00

PhilippaGeorgiou · 14/04/2025 17:57

I doubt the SIL gives a fuck, since she isn't the OP's SIL - she is the sister of the OP's partner and the child isn't any relation at all - not even a step child (and the other "stepchildren" were also NOT INVITED). The OP decided to ignore the fact that her son wasn't invited and have her partner ask for him to go, and when that got a no she asked AGAIN - that is three times she was told no and she just ignored what was said. The brides other brother apparently understood what "no" meant - it was the height of bad manners for the OP to ignore what she was told, and to bring her son when others had been told they could not bring theirs. The OP has effectively said "up yours" to the entire family - her partner, his brother and his sister - and done what she wanted. I doubt very much that it is the brides relationship that is in any danger. The OP's, on the other hand, may well be.

Blimey calm down. Did that little tirade make you feel better?

SouthLondonMum22 · 14/04/2025 18:01

FuckityFux · 14/04/2025 17:52

YANBU. This wasn’t the actual wedding day, but the following day.

Only weirdo’s would think it OK to exclude family members from a late breakfast get together the following day. Surely, that’s where you begin to cement new family relationships?

Your SIL was incredibly mean to make your son leave and it doesn’t bode well for future family get togethers. I’d be giving her a wide swerve from now on.

It was a brunch for the wedding guests. The wedding OP's son wasn't invited to.

It was incredibly mean of OP to put her son in the position of knowing he wasn't invited but attempting to help herself to food for him anyway. SIL also told him to go on the lawn, not to actually leave. OP should've made sure he was staying on the lawn anyway.

and fed her child herself instead of expecting others to feed him.

GoFission · 14/04/2025 18:01

People are so weird about weddings and children in this country.

OP you should not have gone to the brunch with your child. He was not invited and it caused awkwardness.

However, it is beyond stingy in my view not to let an eight-year-old have some bits of breakfast. In any case, excluding the child is something nobody in my family would ever do. It’s the height of rudeness to treat any guest this way. And it would be unimaginable not to feed a child. But hey the precious couple said no, so you should not have gate-crashed.

wordler · 14/04/2025 18:01

FuckityFux · 14/04/2025 17:52

YANBU. This wasn’t the actual wedding day, but the following day.

Only weirdo’s would think it OK to exclude family members from a late breakfast get together the following day. Surely, that’s where you begin to cement new family relationships?

Your SIL was incredibly mean to make your son leave and it doesn’t bode well for future family get togethers. I’d be giving her a wide swerve from now on.

But you’d still ask if you were bringing a non wedding guest to an invited event.

It wasn’t just a ‘if you are still around pop in and say hi at breakfast’

I had a sort of mid morning coffee and cake thing the day after the wedding for any guests who were still around and one friend who was getting picked up by her Mum asked if it would be okay if she came in to the venue to wish me well - and of course that was fine - there was no limit on the coffee from my venue.

If OP or the bride’s brother had asked ahead of time then it may have a different story.

BunnyLake · 14/04/2025 18:02

Treblechef · 14/04/2025 18:00

Blimey calm down. Did that little tirade make you feel better?

I think some posters are really enjoying being angry 😁

nomas · 14/04/2025 18:02

I can sort of understand OP heading back to the hotel after she picked up DS but I don’t understand how even after the hotel refused to allow DS in to the breakfast that OP still sneaked in and went to get plates to eat. At that point I would have left the hotel and gone to McDonalds or anywhere else that was open to eat with DS.Why leave yourself open to humiliation like this? Yes, it would have been nice for SIL to invite all her step-nephews and nieces but it’s her prerogative not to.

EilishMcCandlish · 14/04/2025 18:02

FuckityFux · 14/04/2025 17:52

YANBU. This wasn’t the actual wedding day, but the following day.

Only weirdo’s would think it OK to exclude family members from a late breakfast get together the following day. Surely, that’s where you begin to cement new family relationships?

Your SIL was incredibly mean to make your son leave and it doesn’t bode well for future family get togethers. I’d be giving her a wide swerve from now on.

The bride was still paying. It was still a private function with a guest list and the son was not on it. Why should she pay for OP's entitlement? And it is entitlement, or she wouldn't have tried 3 times to bring him along, and then tried to sneak in through the garden.

We had a function the day after our wedding, at the same venue. For friends/family who had travelled from further away and others who we wanted to spend more time with because we knew we wouldn't get enough opportunities on the day itself. Only a weirdo would have thought it ok to turn up without being invited. It was a much smaller occasion.

The bride is not OP's SIL, she is her boyfriend's sister. They are not married. It doesn't bode well for OP getting closer to this family if she continues to try and bulldoze her way in.

Pinepeak2434 · 14/04/2025 18:03

I think you were out of order trying to cause conflict at her wedding just because you didn’t agree with her wishes.

Crackanut · 14/04/2025 18:03

angsty · 14/04/2025 17:37

It's not "just a child having a breakfast". It's someone literally stealing food from a private catered event to which they weren't invited.

This sums up Mumsnet these days 😂😂

RIP Mumsnet.

Barney16 · 14/04/2025 18:03

Was the breakfast the next day? So the day after the wedding? I think if it was that's a bit mean but you could have just taken him for breakfast in the restaurant and everything would of been fine. Even if you didn't mean to turning up at the breakfast may have seemed like you were trying to make a point.

MILLYmo0se · 14/04/2025 18:03

Weddingbrunchcrasher · 14/04/2025 14:15

Other children were invited, Godchildren and cousins were invited.

Was I unreasonable to think the brunch was ok? I didn’t see this as part of the wedding but post-wedding where it didn’t matter.

The bride and groom were still paying for this event presumably? Invitations went out to the other children but not your son? You were told no again at the door but decided to sneak into the event outside
You should have just collected your child, either taken him put for breakfast elsewhere or straight home and collected DP later or let him get a lift home, lots of options for you but arriving at a wedding event was not one.

ForOliveMember · 14/04/2025 18:05

Lucelady · 14/04/2025 18:00

I find this thread absolutely awful. Weddings are about love whatever religion or none.
To refuse a child a sausage and melon is disgusting.
How many marriages end in divorce? 50%. This child's mother is single parent who knows what trauma her and her son went through. I personally wouldn't join this family.

What about the other siblings whose own step children weren't invited? I'd have been annoyed if my brothers step child was allowed to just rock up but my step children had to stay home. It could have caused drama between the siblings.

It's not about feeding the child, OP should have fed her child herself (not sneak him in to a catered guest list event).

Silvertulips · 14/04/2025 18:05

I think you are right, you aren’t considered family.

I think the Bride and Groom were mean - if you traveled for the wedding, stayed over, brought a gift, the least they could do was invite your 8 year old to a buffet breakfast - what did they expect you to do with him?

BunnyLake · 14/04/2025 18:06

EilishMcCandlish · 14/04/2025 18:02

The bride was still paying. It was still a private function with a guest list and the son was not on it. Why should she pay for OP's entitlement? And it is entitlement, or she wouldn't have tried 3 times to bring him along, and then tried to sneak in through the garden.

We had a function the day after our wedding, at the same venue. For friends/family who had travelled from further away and others who we wanted to spend more time with because we knew we wouldn't get enough opportunities on the day itself. Only a weirdo would have thought it ok to turn up without being invited. It was a much smaller occasion.

The bride is not OP's SIL, she is her boyfriend's sister. They are not married. It doesn't bode well for OP getting closer to this family if she continues to try and bulldoze her way in.

Edited

Which weirdo turned up uninvited?

SouthLondonMum22 · 14/04/2025 18:06

Silvertulips · 14/04/2025 18:05

I think you are right, you aren’t considered family.

I think the Bride and Groom were mean - if you traveled for the wedding, stayed over, brought a gift, the least they could do was invite your 8 year old to a buffet breakfast - what did they expect you to do with him?

He was at a sleepover. How were they to know that OP would be picking him up at 9am?

Dery · 14/04/2025 18:07

You were repeatedly out of order, OP.

Indeed, I think you have written sister-in-law in your post deliberately to give a false impression of the closeness of the relationship between you and the bride and groom ie to manipulate those of us reading your OP. But you’re not married to the bride’s brother and you have only been together a few years. Very few children were invited and, leaving aside that the bride and groom were paying for their guests, it could have created serious awkwardness for them if your child appeared to have been invited where cousins etc had not been invited.

Ending up in tears about this also seems extremely manipulative.

We all fuck up sometimes, OP - god knows I have - in your shoes I would be apologising profusely and hopefully it will be possible to put the relationship with the bride and groom on a decent footing but as things stand you have behaved very badly. Right now though, she probably thinks you’re bonkers.

B1indEye · 14/04/2025 18:07

Barney16 · 14/04/2025 18:03

Was the breakfast the next day? So the day after the wedding? I think if it was that's a bit mean but you could have just taken him for breakfast in the restaurant and everything would of been fine. Even if you didn't mean to turning up at the breakfast may have seemed like you were trying to make a point.

If only the OP had made it abundantly clear in her posts that the breakfast was the next day and a continuation of the wedding event 😂

ShakeNvacStevens · 14/04/2025 18:07

WeeOrcadian · 14/04/2025 17:44

"breakfast in the pubic bit"

Hope you didn't find short & curlies on your toast

YABU but you don't sound in the least bit sorry for being a CF

Well the wedding brunch was held in a "private part" of the hotel...

PrimalLass · 14/04/2025 18:07

ForOliveMember · 14/04/2025 18:05

What about the other siblings whose own step children weren't invited? I'd have been annoyed if my brothers step child was allowed to just rock up but my step children had to stay home. It could have caused drama between the siblings.

It's not about feeding the child, OP should have fed her child herself (not sneak him in to a catered guest list event).

The next day after she'd picked him up? You'd really be annoyed? Blimey.

HellDorado · 14/04/2025 18:08

what did they expect you to do with him?

Not bring him?

ruethewhirl · 14/04/2025 18:08

I call reverse too. Otherwise breathtakingly tone deaf.

B1indEye · 14/04/2025 18:09

Daisrose · 14/04/2025 17:57

I’m really confused by this too. Why does the bride have to be polite to someone she’s said no to multiple times at her own bloody wedding

I know, posters can't seem to separate what they think about the wedding arrangements from the fact that the OP wilfully ignored the brides wishes

BigHeadBertha · 14/04/2025 18:10

Sorry, this is kind of long.

My thoughts: First, if I understood your posts, I do think it was pushy of you to "ask directly" if your child could attend one part of the wedding festivities when you'd already been told no. In the future, I would not do that. If you have any questions pertaining to social events on your partner's side, have him do it. It's just a better look. And if the asking is really trying to get them to make an exception, just don't. However, even if you did make a little social error or two, we all do. It's not the end of the world or anything unforgiveable.

Second, if I can say this right, I think it's common that the person who is with someone in what we might consider a somewhat "gray area," informally, not married, with a child that is not the partner's, etc. feels that their standing in the partner's family is or should be more substantial than the family considers it to be at that point in time.

I think this part is not usually intended as a slight from the partner's family or friends. It's just that other people don't know what's in you and your partner's hearts, they just tend to not be that involved in your lives and think about other relationships more by the outer trappings. And of course they've probably also seen other boyfriends/girlfriends of the partner come and go. If/when the two of you are married, or together for a longer time, then they'll likely mentally categorize you differently.

If it applies, I recall being on both sides of this whole issue more than once. Feeling like my guy and I were practically married and being disappointed to be treated more like I was someone he'd just met, by others, even after a couple/few years. And also, on the other side of it, feeling like someone else's "new" guy or gal was at that point still likely just a passing thing and being surprised to learn how serious the relationship was to them.

Also, I think many people just aren't very familiar with stepchildren (or "almost" step children). They may not consider steps, let alone "not quite steps," to be full members of their larger family and may not even realize they are expected to, or that full acceptance might be very much wanted, unless/until it's explained to them.

Okay, all that said, it seems you either made a social error here in assuming your son would be welcomed at the morning-after brunch or they caused a misunderstanding by not making it clear that it was more formal than it seems you expected, with specific invitations required.

Either way, personally, I think they could have been more damn gracious about it. To have a young woman crying and a little boy sitting there wondering why he's not welcome to go inside with everyone else and have a bite to eat... Gee, I'm tearing up a little just thinking about it. It's not pretty, is it.

But then, remember we don't know it from their point of view. For ex., it could be they'd already had other issues with uninvited guests and had appointed someone to only allowed those who were invited in, with nothing personal involved whatsoever, just an unfortunate misunderstanding.

Either way, I'm sorry you were publicly embarrassed and went through that. It sounds pretty awful.

From here, if it was me, I think I'd just drop it and try to mentally start over with his family as if it had never happened at all. A well meant social error on either side is not a crime. On their side, it will likely be forgotten if your future behavior shows them you're actually quite a polite and lovely person. I was going to suggest sending a text or email to the bride, apologizing for the misunderstanding but I think it's better to just let this one be left with nothing more said about it. Best wishes to you.

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