Person with MH problems should not be better off no working

[YourTidyScroller]

Just that really. Someone working a minimum wage job full-time should not be worse off than someone not working due to mental health problems and claiming benefits.
I know several people in this situation claiming UC for housing benefit, council tax, ESA, disability top up and PIP. They all have no work record and few qualifications so would probably only get a minimum wage job. But their income would reduce. So they have a financial incentive not to recover.

How many people with mental health issues on benefits do you no?

I understand that.
You support someone getting more money than they would get working full time at a national minimum wage job?

How do you know so many disabled people? Serious question.

It's quite hard to actually get 40 hours or even 35 hours in a minimum wage job. Lots offer 16/24 hours with overtime when available.

Wrong. Someone working FT minimum wage with no MH issues is much better off than the person struggling with poor MH. They just are. End of.

With friends like you who needs enemies!

The person on long term benefits isn't putting I towards a pension, will never get promoted, and their benefits could be removed or reduced at any second.

It's hardly the good life.

Yeah, must be at least, oh what?, 15 minutes.?!

You really think any amount of money in the world could convince me that wanting to kill myself everyday, staying awake all night scared to sleep because DH might stop breathing, self harming regularly because I can't handle my own emotions and not being able to leave the fucking house is better than recovering?
I'm actually shaking I'm so angry that you would presume people would rather fucking suffer every single day then recover for £2k a mon th?!

Person with literacy problems should check before posting.

Lots of people working full time have mental health problems as well. Its not as black and white as you paint it.
Yes to get ESA and PIP your mental health issues have to be worse.

It’s just getting tedious now with all these types of threads …
idiots making out that:

Unfair Cash! (UC)
Pretend Illness Payments! (PIP)
Looks Clearly Well/ Really Able!(LCW/LCWRA)

How can people be so bitter? It’s like a perfectly well person being jealous of someone really ill needing frequent surgeries and appointments at hospital. Yes they are getting more spent on their healthcare because they need it likewise those getting disability benefits need that extra just from a different safety net pot. Imagine being jealous of the disabled. .

Several people you say ,How many is several ?

Do you always have a go at people whose literacy is not as good as yours?

I don't pay for a carer, my DH stays home all day every day to make sure I don't fucking off myself. I don't need a stranger to do that.

I have mental health problems and I get ESA and PIP and I employ a carer.

i don’t get UC because until I stopped working two years ago after working for twenty years I saved money so I’m also living on my savings.

Yes because god forbid someone is unkind or critical of others

I am disabled. I have a physical disability.
You are all assuming there is a black and white situation of disabled can not work, non disabled can work.
It is tiresome.

One of the good things with the UC is that it’s not all or nothing. If someone works and earns over the working allowance their UC drops by 55p per pound over that allowance. So someone working will be better off than if they only claim benefits.

*The person on long term benefits isn't putting I towards a pension, will never get promoted, and their benefits could be removed or reduced at any second.

It's hardly the good life.*

• exactly. Every day the same, no hope for the future, no prospects, no money for days out , holidays or anything nice ever. It must be an awful existence. I don't begrudge these people the measly sum they receive in benefits.

@YourTidyScroller companies need people on basic wages so they can make £££ profits instead. its the companies that should pay more overall.
if running a business is so profitable etc then pay the workers better

Isn’t that exactly what you are assuming though about MH issues ?

This ..
sick to death of these types of posts these days .

focus on your own life

If they’re too ill to work then yes. I don’t think disabled people should have to live like paupers.

You are not making much sense, what is your point about work and mental health ?