Person with MH problems should not be better off no working

[YourTidyScroller]

Just that really. Someone working a minimum wage job full-time should not be worse off than someone not working due to mental health problems and claiming benefits.
I know several people in this situation claiming UC for housing benefit, council tax, ESA, disability top up and PIP. They all have no work record and few qualifications so would probably only get a minimum wage job. But their income would reduce. So they have a financial incentive not to recover.

PIP is a points based system. Someone who is wheelchair bound, can't feed or cook for themselves will score higher and get an 'Enchanced rate' of PIP. You can get a standard rate of PIP if you can carry out some, but not all duties.
Someone suffering from Paranoid Schizophrenia might not get the Mobility payment on PIP although, if it stopped them from leaving the house due to paranoia then they might still get it. As someone upthread has said, comparing someone with a pysical disability and mental disability is like apples and oranges.

I care for someone with a serious mental illness. They do need their meals cooked for them.

Where have I said that I need help with those things?

When I've had episodes of psychosis I've needed 24/7 care.

The majority of the time I manage a serious disability doing the best I can. I work, have raised a family.

They wouldn't get a minimum wage job at all. I'm sick of replying to these types of post honestly, such a load of utter c*

thats the flip side, if people were truly honest about their health etc how many companies would even hire them

@EternalSunshine19 I know. But how would someone so paranoid they can not leave the house manage to work? I was expressing surprise that someone with this level of mental illness be so affected as to get PIP, but still hold down a full time job. The person claiming to do that has ignored all my questions.

Not at all. However being 50 years old and still under the guidance of a psychiatrist... educated to degree level and still struggling with MH. I think it's only fair that you manage to appear intelligent before destroying people with your (shoddily worded) words.

No different to me then. But I am managed by medication so work and am not eligible for PIP.

You lie, like I have. Its what most people do to get work if they have serious health problems.

What benefits are your friends on?

and yet when they need time off for those health issues ?

PIP, UC, LWRA

I assume that's okay with you and your views.

Is there anything you'd like to ask about my health?

No. Good. I wouldn't want my issues plastered all over MN. I couldn't give two chuffs about your thoughts.

I appreciate your post.

You can only work if you do not need much time off. I have gone from the psychiatrist to work - hospital appointment. But have not needed much time off.

Trust me, paranoid schizophrenia can definitely affect you to the point you easily qualify for PIP.

Lwrca? That is universal credit.

so then people still need to live so why should it be anyone suffers because companys want to pay crap wages

I was not doubting that

Be grateful then. Don't deem to attack others that may not be as blessed as you.

Appointments are not the only occasion you need time off. Being ill means you take time off too. And with MH, that can not often be predictable.

Well, different to you in that I have episodes of mania & psychosis that is helped by medication but doesn't prevent it. The medication also has some serious side effects that can be disabling.

If there was a medication that stopped my illness then I wouldn't be eligible for PIP either

So why should that person be made to live in poverty?

You literally just did!

You see @YourTidyScroller .

People are different.

You are lucky that your employer employs you in spite of mania and psychosis episodes. That is rare