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People that shout "THANK YOU!" to those that don't say it

471 replies

tvchoice · 13/04/2025 10:25

Why do you do so?
Personally, if I hold a door or let someone through and they don't acknowledge and thank me, I don't let it bother me and simply get on with my day. The reason for this is I quite honestly couldn't care less how a total stranger behaves towards me, within reason of course, because they are exactly that. A stranger that means nothing to me.
Therefore, if they don't say thank you, it doesn't matter enough for me to need to react to it, but for many others, they have a different mindset. Help me understand! Why is this?
Surely someone would need to be important to you for their behaviour to affect you enough to react to it?

OP posts:
BatchCookBabe · 13/04/2025 16:58

StripyPanda · 13/04/2025 16:34

im not a THANK YOU shouter but rudeness is not acceptable in my eyes so i WILL call people out on it

Ooooh GIF

Ooooh, you're hard! 😱

I bet everyone around you quivers in their boots when they see coming, knowing you will CALL THEM OUT if they don't kiss your feet and shower with praise every single time you do the tiniest thing for them! 😂

Ooooooh, I'm soooo SCARED! Grin

TheBuffetInspector · 13/04/2025 16:59

BillyBoe46 · 13/04/2025 15:05

I think its a big jump tp say someone doesn't have basic manners because they didnt say thank you in the 2 second interaction you have with them. You might not have heard them. They might have social anxiety. They might be distracted or have other shit going on. I reckon it's better to focus on our own behaviour before we chastise other people unless they really negatively impact us. I also find that people only make snide comments to people they aren't intimidated by. No one would ever say boo to my H because he's gigantic, covered in tattoos and has gold teeth.

A classic case of speak for yourself.

If I found your husband to be rude (gold teeth or not) I still wouldn't hesitate to point out his bad manners.

Wheelz46 · 13/04/2025 17:00

Melbourne55 · 13/04/2025 16:19

If someone is particularly ignorant to me at work (or anywhere!) then I will tell them ‘you’re welcome’. Basic manners cost nothing and it really bothers me when people don’t say please & thank you, especially when it comes to parents/their children.

These type of comments really bother me, my child has selective mutism and of course we teach him manners but he cannot use his voice in certain situations.

We have interventions in place to help him overcome this, he may whisper a thank you, that is a massive step forward if he manages it, although you may not hear him, I will know he has said it.

If you use a patronising tone back, that can be a massive step back. You really shouldn't judge without knowing what people are going through.

SwanOfThoseThings · 13/04/2025 17:00

OldCottageGreenhouse · 13/04/2025 16:56

It’s ignorant and it’s downright rude! Stop trying to excuse poor behaviour. If you haven’t got common decency to adhere to social norms then stay in!

Ah ... a pavement hogger has arrived on Mumsnet!😁

nomas · 13/04/2025 17:01

Wheelz46 · 13/04/2025 17:00

These type of comments really bother me, my child has selective mutism and of course we teach him manners but he cannot use his voice in certain situations.

We have interventions in place to help him overcome this, he may whisper a thank you, that is a massive step forward if he manages it, although you may not hear him, I will know he has said it.

If you use a patronising tone back, that can be a massive step back. You really shouldn't judge without knowing what people are going through.

She hasn’t said children though.

And by your logic you could never say anything to any adult for fear of them being selectively mute.

nomas · 13/04/2025 17:03

SwanOfThoseThings · 13/04/2025 17:00

Ah ... a pavement hogger has arrived on Mumsnet!😁

In the example you provided, the person moved back behind the others in their party of their own accord. So what made them a pavement hogger?

SwanOfThoseThings · 13/04/2025 17:04

nomas · 13/04/2025 17:01

She hasn’t said children though.

And by your logic you could never say anything to any adult for fear of them being selectively mute.

There have been several examples on this thread of adults with legitimate reasons for not responding, other than selective mutism, not to mention examples of people who did say thank you but weren't heard - so the logic of not saying anything is 100% valid.

thaisweetchill · 13/04/2025 17:04

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 13/04/2025 10:28

I am still mortified by this memory...

I was in our local baker's shop, and (this was a very rare occasion) without any of my very small children. A man ordered a pasty and didn't say 'thank you' and I, still in my 'mum' persona, said 'thank you' very gently correcting him as you would a small child.

He looked a bit embarrassed and said 'thank you' to the lady behind the counter, took his pasty and went. I, scarlet with embarrassment, furtively bought my pack of cheese straws and scuttled out. So sometimes it can be habit...

I once did this to a colleague, we have instilled such good manners in our son it’s a habit. I’m not embarrassed though, manners cost nothing!

SwanOfThoseThings · 13/04/2025 17:05

nomas · 13/04/2025 17:03

In the example you provided, the person moved back behind the others in their party of their own accord. So what made them a pavement hogger?

Because they remained two abreast, and didn't pre-emptively move.

nomas · 13/04/2025 17:05

SwanOfThoseThings · 13/04/2025 17:04

There have been several examples on this thread of adults with legitimate reasons for not responding, other than selective mutism, not to mention examples of people who did say thank you but weren't heard - so the logic of not saying anything is 100% valid.

And there also lots of examples where there haven’t been legitimate reasons provided.

So some people will say something, some will not. Both are valid choices.

Melbourne55 · 13/04/2025 17:05

Wheelz46 · 13/04/2025 17:00

These type of comments really bother me, my child has selective mutism and of course we teach him manners but he cannot use his voice in certain situations.

We have interventions in place to help him overcome this, he may whisper a thank you, that is a massive step forward if he manages it, although you may not hear him, I will know he has said it.

If you use a patronising tone back, that can be a massive step back. You really shouldn't judge without knowing what people are going through.

I assure you that this really isn’t the situation - I’m describing kids who will happily & confidently ask for something yet seem to lose their words when it comes to the please/thank you part! It’s usually telling when the parents have 0 manners either.

WhatNoRaisins · 13/04/2025 17:06

SwanOfThoseThings · 13/04/2025 17:04

There have been several examples on this thread of adults with legitimate reasons for not responding, other than selective mutism, not to mention examples of people who did say thank you but weren't heard - so the logic of not saying anything is 100% valid.

Another thing in favour of the not saying anything approach is that what good does it do? Does anyone really change their behaviour for the better after being "called out"? I tend to just think the person is a right twat.

nomas · 13/04/2025 17:07

SwanOfThoseThings · 13/04/2025 17:05

Because they remained two abreast, and didn't pre-emptively move.

That’s not what you said though. You said they expected a thank you for moving.

Wheelz46 · 13/04/2025 17:08

nomas · 13/04/2025 17:01

She hasn’t said children though.

And by your logic you could never say anything to any adult for fear of them being selectively mute.

The poster did mention children in the very last paragraph, maybe I misunderstood the meaning 🤷‍♀️

My logic? Where have I said you can't say anything to anyone for fear they have selective mutism? I just mentioned about a patronising tone. Of course you can speak to someone or try and speak to someone. I am just stating that there maybe a reason why someone may not respond because they simply can't.

MarxAndSparx · 13/04/2025 17:08

My mum used to do this to people when we were younger. I used to get so embarrassed but I can understand why she used to do it now.
I don’t say anything myself, I just think, ‘rude!’

I have also been on the receiving end, when a guy stood to the side to let me past when I was pushing a buggy (he really didn’t need to, there was loads of room on the wide pavement ) I smiled and nodded at him in thanks, but apparently, that wasn’t enough, he tutted and said ‘you’re welcome’
Did he want me to bow down to him in praise or something?! Silly man.

SwanOfThoseThings · 13/04/2025 17:08

nomas · 13/04/2025 17:05

And there also lots of examples where there haven’t been legitimate reasons provided.

So some people will say something, some will not. Both are valid choices.

No, because the harm done when there is a legitimate reason outweighs the good (if there is any good at all) done when there isn't one. There's a poster upthread who hasn't felt able to go back to one local place where someone had a go at her as she was reeling from life-changing bad news.

nomas · 13/04/2025 17:10

WhatNoRaisins · 13/04/2025 17:06

Another thing in favour of the not saying anything approach is that what good does it do? Does anyone really change their behaviour for the better after being "called out"? I tend to just think the person is a right twat.

Yes, I think it does. I once moved an old wet newspaper from a bench to the floor to sit down. A woman told me it was rude to litter like that and moved the newspaper to the bin (which was about 50 yards away). I was initially annoyed but now if I do remove something like that, I put it in the bin.

StripyPanda · 13/04/2025 17:11

BatchCookBabe · 13/04/2025 16:58

Ooooh, you're hard! 😱

I bet everyone around you quivers in their boots when they see coming, knowing you will CALL THEM OUT if they don't kiss your feet and shower with praise every single time you do the tiniest thing for them! 😂

Ooooooh, I'm soooo SCARED! Grin

🤣🤣🤣
Get a life…. how long did it take you to go find a giph… you saddo’s wont get a row out of me… u just made me laugh and smile thanks for cheering me up

SwanOfThoseThings · 13/04/2025 17:11

nomas · 13/04/2025 17:07

That’s not what you said though. You said they expected a thank you for moving.

What part of being three abreast and one person dropping back only as the people already in single file approached, and then expecting thanks for graciously vacating 1/3 of the pavement when the others had already vacated 2/3 of it are you struggling to understand?

OlivePeer · 13/04/2025 17:11

It's really bad manners to tell other adults off for their manners. Surprised the self-proclaimed sticklers don't know this. On a practical level, it's also pretty much guaranteed to have the opposite effect.

Obvnotthegolden · 13/04/2025 17:13

tvchoice · 13/04/2025 10:25

Why do you do so?
Personally, if I hold a door or let someone through and they don't acknowledge and thank me, I don't let it bother me and simply get on with my day. The reason for this is I quite honestly couldn't care less how a total stranger behaves towards me, within reason of course, because they are exactly that. A stranger that means nothing to me.
Therefore, if they don't say thank you, it doesn't matter enough for me to need to react to it, but for many others, they have a different mindset. Help me understand! Why is this?
Surely someone would need to be important to you for their behaviour to affect you enough to react to it?

Same as you op. I think it's just as rude to comment as it is to not say thank you. If I hold the door open doe someone and they don't acknowledge it I don't care because I didn't do it for their praise.

Actually I'd go further and say that sometimes people have "helped"me when I haven't needed help, where it seems like a power play or patronising, and then expect me to thank them when I never needed their help in their first place.

StripyPanda · 13/04/2025 17:14

Wheelz46 · 13/04/2025 17:00

These type of comments really bother me, my child has selective mutism and of course we teach him manners but he cannot use his voice in certain situations.

We have interventions in place to help him overcome this, he may whisper a thank you, that is a massive step forward if he manages it, although you may not hear him, I will know he has said it.

If you use a patronising tone back, that can be a massive step back. You really shouldn't judge without knowing what people are going through.

he needs to learn another way of acknowledging thank yous then… maybe raise a hand 🤷‍♀️

Newmumhere40 · 13/04/2025 17:14

SwanOfThoseThings · 13/04/2025 10:31

The kind of people who do this are often extremely rude and entitled - for example, people who walk three abreast on the pavement and think they have done you a favour deserving of thanks by one person dropping back; when you and your companion had already gone single file as soon as the threesome came into view, in anticipation of needing to pass.

THIS!!! And I'm a Mum with a pram but jesus other Mums with prams, stop walking 2 or 3 a breast without moving!!!

nomas · 13/04/2025 17:15

SwanOfThoseThings · 13/04/2025 17:11

What part of being three abreast and one person dropping back only as the people already in single file approached, and then expecting thanks for graciously vacating 1/3 of the pavement when the others had already vacated 2/3 of it are you struggling to understand?

Again, very slowly. One person did move back for you. So why is that person a pavement hogger?

phoenixrosehere · 13/04/2025 17:16

It doesn’t bother me enough to shout at people however, I do have an issue with people not giving me the chance to say “thank you” before they shout it at me or shouting it with the belief they have done something when they haven’t. I will also add me saying “thank you” but them not hearing me so I’m shouted at unnecessarily.