To take recreational drugs in your 50s

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Just that really. Bunch of married fathers going out and taking recreational drugs (concealed up one of them’s rectum) - one hid it from his wife, one has a wife that does it too, the other I don’t know.

What do you think?

AIBU to feel a bit eurgh about it and a bit like they never grew up?

YABU - it’s fine. Each to their own

YANBU - it is a bit yuk.

People die in factories making fast fashion. The unworn clothes from ASOS and boohoo and shein etc end up in landfill, which is killing the planet.

I’m not saying it’s the same but yeah it’s still as unethical.

But you did made the comparison. You are correct that capitalism involves the exploitation of others but that isn't the same as using an illegal product directly linked to crime....

Thank you for answering. A bit tired and distant once a month is def not damaging. 😊

Body packing and body stuffing drugs (swallowing a condom full of drugs or concealing it rectally) is a common way to smuggle drugs into the UK so you could easily be taking something that has been through someone else's rectum.

Unless it's home grown cannabis you are definitely supporting organised crime which is very likely to link into serious violence & human trafficking.

Dear Lord.

Well I really really want something so thinking about ethics doesn't matter because it's all about me and well if it's there who cares?

This isn't the first time today I've made this observation either.

Just to add - I am completely teetotal. Haven't drunk alcohol in years. Far more destructive than a bit of molly twice a year!

Well that’s what I’d assume. But is it possible to get ‘ethical’ MDMA? The socially conscious stance of one of them makes me really wonder.

Well this thread does explain why drug use is so prevalent & how so many can easily turn a blind eye to the associated crime.

I did loads of recreational drugs in my 20s and had lots of fun.

But now? Absolutely not. I have a family to think of if I took something dodgy, and a career to think of if I got caught. It’s just not worth any of the risks.

I guess I generally don’t think too much about what others choose to do. However, I would be upset with DH if he did this for the same reasons mentioned above.

The illegal part is moot in my mind. I would consume drugs ethically if they were legalised. Because they are not, the supply chains are unethical.

Again, I am not saying they are the same, just that they are both unethical. Chocolate isn’t illegal but huge percentages of the chocolate everyone consumes every day is made using child labour- is that ethical simply because the end product is legal? I’m not so sure. https://www.theguardian.com/food/2023/dec/02/brands-to-avoid-mars-cadbury-chocolate-firms-criticised-ethics-report

Anyway all of this is to say- I am well aware of the ethical issues with taking drugs, and I take them anyway fully aware of those. Life is full of making decisions that are selfish or that aren’t entirely ethical, people do it every day. That was my only point.

It’s interesting the judgement of drugs on here: “sad, irresponsible, yuck, scary”.

Yet how many get plastered when they go out with their group of mums or partners?

Alcohol, the socially acceptable drug…

MDMA, LSD and mushrooms all in clinical trials for refractive depression at the moment here and in the States.

If people feel the need to take them, perhaps it’s holding back depression or some other mental health issue. Not always of course.

Id be interested in mushrooms at a clinic in Holland in a managed setting (which exists by the way). I’m sure it would give me some thing useful for living a life well lived. Far more so than alcohol. Alcohol is a depressive drug. Fact.

Yet how many get plastered when they go out with their group of mums or partners?

I don't drink, plenty of people don't.

I want to understand the impact on people exploited and that is where I could shift viewpoint. ( Not cocaine which I see as pretty horrible in every respect).

It being illegal? Well,that does not influence me morally at all. In terms of consequences, yes of course.

This is why I thought Professor Nutt was pretty inspiring. He was the Government drugs tsar/advisor many years back. He was very much championing legalisation of certain drugs including ecstacy. He was vocal about all the lives destroyed by alcohol. Never mind observing the behaviour of people who drink. Horrible. He got sacked in the end for those views.

The more I think on it, the more I think what a cracking time those blokes will have. ( No pun intended). 🤣

Yes, Actually, there is also the risk of a criminal record, impact on income and children. Another reason to be a bit ‘hmmm’ about it.

Sorry what? And why are they hiding it up their arse?!!

You can do mushroom retreats in Wales and Suffolk - google for details. Absolutely life changing 🙂

This lot would insist on Fairtrade chocolate.

Thank you 🙏❤️

Funny how people claim to only use ethical recreational drugs, a load of tosh, drugs are supplying by dealers, dealers are ruthless.

I have heard people justify cocaine claiming it is top rock, unmixed, its impossible to produce cocaine without mixing it with all types of crap.

Gordon Ramsey was in a show where they mixed the paste, vile.

I dont think its great at any age but in your early 20s and experimenting with life its more understandable - your brain hasnt fully developed and impulse control and peer pressure tends to be more influential. Plus, you dont have the life experience yet to consider the consequences.

In your 50's I think it just comes across as entirely pathetic - by that age, most people have family responsibilities/long term job and there is something deeply sad to me about a 50 year old shoving powder up their nose or whatever it is. It's not a good look. Oh, and I WOULD include alcohol in this too- 50 year olds getting smashed every weekend is just as pathetic.

The point is that alcohol is positively encouraged in our culture.

People are alienated for not drinking! It doesn't really make sense.

I think they're beyond stupid. At their time of life they need to take a great deal of care of their aging bodies. They don't call the 50s snipers alley for nothing.

I havent been drunk in around 20 years.

That sounds legendary. I would love to try it.

Nor have I 😊

I wouldn't do it now at my age although I did when younger. But is it any different to people getting pissed? Or people reaching for a bottle of wine as soon as they get home from work/ get to an airport/ go out for food. Never mind all inclusive holidays where people just sit round drinking all day. Personally I find alcohol just as sad - the fact that it's so normalised and acceptable to drink all the time. But I know that's my issue and as long as it's not harming anyone else eg no kids being neglected then I'm not bothered about it. Each to their own..