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To think it’s fair to judge people on their appearance in certain situations?

232 replies

ThisQuickLemonPoster · 11/04/2025 19:20

If someone shows up to a job interview in a stained hoodie or if a teacher is overweight and unkempt, it does affect how seriously I take them. AIBU to think “don’t judge a book by its cover” only goes so far?

OP posts:
TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 12/04/2025 10:11

Littleloopyears · 12/04/2025 10:06

That’s the thing, you refuse to believe an overweight person would be able to chase him down. Why do you think a slim person would be able to? Essentially you take people at face value on how they look and make assumptions. Funny that you consider an overweight nurse, who will be on their feet all day, to be ok considering they may be giving people very active care and life saving treatment.

Well said.
Most of my fit friends are thin but a few are very overweight.
As for the thin people as a whole, they are a total mix of sporty and unfit. Judging how fast someone can go purely on the basis of weight is very ignorant.

soupyspoon · 12/04/2025 10:15

Oblomov25 · 12/04/2025 05:51

"Within the first seven seconds of meeting, people will have a solid impression of who you are — and some research suggests a tenth of a second is all it takes to start determining traits"

I don't know why people object to the idea that most people, (not all) make judgements about others. Most of us just can't help it.

Yes its normal, we are animals and like the rest of the animal world make almost instant judgements on someone/something that we/animals see in front of us

I also dont think that its good role modelling to be morbidly obese if you work with children but thats not the same as being physically unkempt.

ChopstickNovice · 12/04/2025 10:17

You lost me when you started on weight.

Shinyandnew1 · 12/04/2025 10:21

I DO care that my very active 4 year old is in the care of someone who is not obese and therefore would struggle to chase him down at full pelt

I have taught many reception classes and am not overweight. I wouldn't be able to chase after 4 year olds at 'full pelt' because I have a problem with my knee. Should I resign in disgrace?!

Eelqueen · 12/04/2025 11:04

Shinyandnew1 · 12/04/2025 10:21

I DO care that my very active 4 year old is in the care of someone who is not obese and therefore would struggle to chase him down at full pelt

I have taught many reception classes and am not overweight. I wouldn't be able to chase after 4 year olds at 'full pelt' because I have a problem with my knee. Should I resign in disgrace?!

Good lord
I don’t have an issue with teachers

I’m talking about childminders who take children out to public playgrounds, lots of walking on streets, crossing roads etc

Eelqueen · 12/04/2025 11:06

I wouldn’t want my
childminder
dietician
nutritionist
slimming leader
PT instructor

to be obese

any other profession? Knock yourself out! I don’t give a fig!

SquashedSquid · 12/04/2025 11:24

fuckingangrybirdbrows · 12/04/2025 06:52

Go to work in your pyjamas if it matters so little...

I'm a teacher and I've often been to work in my PJs. A few times a year, actually. Usually, World Book Day, Children in Need and Comic Relief days. I work in a very deprived area and one thing children usually all have is PJs, so instead of the pressure of costumes, we have PJ days. Again, funnily enough, it doesn't have an impact on how I teach.

The children I teach wouldn't care if I turned up to school in a hula skirt and coconut bikini top, because they don't judge on appearance. We should all be more like them.

SquashedSquid · 12/04/2025 11:27

Eelqueen · 12/04/2025 10:01

Calm down

I don’t give a flying fig whether my nurse, dentist, friend or colleague is overweight

I DO care that my very active 4 year old is in the care of someone who is not obese and therefore would struggle to chase him down at full pelt

Perhaps you should teach your child not to run away from someone, "At full pelt", because at the age of four, he should know better.

Littleloopyears · 12/04/2025 11:44

Eelqueen · 12/04/2025 11:04

Good lord
I don’t have an issue with teachers

I’m talking about childminders who take children out to public playgrounds, lots of walking on streets, crossing roads etc

You’re still assuming that a slim person would be more physically able to be a childminder though. Assuming that they’re more able to go to a playground, walk around or keep kids safe on a road. There are many childminders who, whilst they are slim and look outwardly fit, are unfit, have physical restrictions or both.

Being a reception teacher is a very physical job considering that they not only teach have to physically help and keep the children safe. At the end of the day, kids don’t just sit in their bottoms at school.

Shinyandnew1 · 12/04/2025 11:47

I’m talking about childminders who take children out to public playgrounds, lots of walking on streets, crossing roads etc

Hmm, so your four year old child will run away from childminders necessitating them to chase 'at full pelt' yet they will NOT do this a few weeks later when the reception teacher takes them out onto the field or on a local walk to the fire station?

Pickledpoppetpickle · 12/04/2025 11:49

Christ, as if the teaching crisis wasn’t deep enough. Ow teachers must dress to suit others and keep their weight at a level that means no judgement will be required. That’s me out then. I teach a long term shortage subject - at least one school locally is no longer offering said subject. You, OP, are very much part of the problem.

Eelqueen · 12/04/2025 12:16

Shinyandnew1 · 12/04/2025 11:47

I’m talking about childminders who take children out to public playgrounds, lots of walking on streets, crossing roads etc

Hmm, so your four year old child will run away from childminders necessitating them to chase 'at full pelt' yet they will NOT do this a few weeks later when the reception teacher takes them out onto the field or on a local walk to the fire station?

so You don’t see the difference between

a teacher plus TA plus parent helpers
plus older versus at a childminder?

plus with peers versus a childminder on her own dealing with babies and toddlers as well?

plus the odd visit once or twice a term versus day in and day out trips to public areas, likely shops, parks etc?

ok

Eelqueen · 12/04/2025 12:17

Pickledpoppetpickle · 12/04/2025 11:49

Christ, as if the teaching crisis wasn’t deep enough. Ow teachers must dress to suit others and keep their weight at a level that means no judgement will be required. That’s me out then. I teach a long term shortage subject - at least one school locally is no longer offering said subject. You, OP, are very much part of the problem.

Exactly
the op is unpleasant on other threads too
it is sad to think this Op may have children and be teaching them to view their teachers like this

Eelqueen · 12/04/2025 12:20

Littleloopyears · 12/04/2025 11:44

You’re still assuming that a slim person would be more physically able to be a childminder though. Assuming that they’re more able to go to a playground, walk around or keep kids safe on a road. There are many childminders who, whilst they are slim and look outwardly fit, are unfit, have physical restrictions or both.

Being a reception teacher is a very physical job considering that they not only teach have to physically help and keep the children safe. At the end of the day, kids don’t just sit in their bottoms at school.

On The balance of probabilities someone obese is more likely to struggle with being very energetic and keeping up with fast 4 years old than the same person but stones lighter.

and it is quite bizarre to think otherwise.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 12/04/2025 12:20

Jabberwok · 11/04/2025 19:28

Fully agree. I was just thinking about this today. Recruitment for a large insurance company where I was a manager, colleague and I interviewed a chap who was borderline on being successful. I voted no as he'd not shaved or polished his shoes...we are talking university graduate not 16 year old here

Personally I like to make sure I am the best dressed man in the room as it gives me a physiological edge in business situations. I look wealthy (most clothes bought from charity shops) and confident.

I would not be happy if a teacher looks like a tramp.

I am currently working for a funeral director and it shocks me how many men don't even own a pair of trousers...your mum's died, go to a charity shop or buy something cheap from Primark or Amazon...clearly you don't have any self respect or respect for others

Sorry but your comment about judging people when you are working as a funeral director is appalling. Have you no compassion for people’s grief? Do you think it makes them feel better dressed in a suit?

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 12/04/2025 12:25

Redburnett · 12/04/2025 09:42

But weight does impact people's ability to do some jobs. I was in local swimming pool last night and a grossly obese women walked (well waddled) from the changing rooms to the pool. She could barely move her feet one in front of the other very slowly, it required a sort of lurch to shift her body weight with each step. That would make her unsuited to working in a classroom. Why are people so deluded about the impact of obesity? It is a serious problem.

And by going swimming she is doing something about it by doing some gentle exercise. It probably took a lot of courage for her to do that.

Eelqueen · 12/04/2025 12:25

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 12/04/2025 12:25

And by going swimming she is doing something about it by doing some gentle exercise. It probably took a lot of courage for her to do that.

And this poster isn’t even remotely saying otherwise

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 12/04/2025 12:26

What form does your judging take? Tutting or is it gossiping behind their backs or just feelings of superiority that you are 'doing it better'? All pointless but, if that's what you do that's what you do.

First lesson I was taught is not to judge a book by its cover. A very good mantra that's been obliterated by social media platforms and so many thinking that their opinion actually matters.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 12/04/2025 12:28

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 12/04/2025 12:20

Sorry but your comment about judging people when you are working as a funeral director is appalling. Have you no compassion for people’s grief? Do you think it makes them feel better dressed in a suit?

Completely agree. Obsequious springs to mind.

The way the funeral industry is going better that the staff in them make the (fewer) customers they will encounter feel cared for rather than judged.

Littleloopyears · 12/04/2025 12:36

Eelqueen · 12/04/2025 12:20

On The balance of probabilities someone obese is more likely to struggle with being very energetic and keeping up with fast 4 years old than the same person but stones lighter.

and it is quite bizarre to think otherwise.

Edited

It’s not bizarre at all, I just don’t judge someone’s ability by the way they look. I don’t take them at face value and make assumptions of them

ehb102 · 12/04/2025 12:51

You showed your prejudice the minute you mixed up stained clothing with fat people.
Yours,
Lipoedema sufferer
P.S. 10% of women get lipoedema and it mostly appears after menopause. Cross your fingers you don't get it because karma is a bitch

SmoothEncounter · 12/04/2025 12:57

doodleschnoodle · 11/04/2025 19:25

YABU to lump overweight in with unkempt. Being overweight is not a character flaw or a personality problem.

This.

My “overweight” friends dress superbly to suit their body type, smell amazing and look fabulous. They have a far better sense of style than me often.

Another bitchy weight thread. How tedious.

StrangerThings1 · 12/04/2025 13:06

coxesorangepippin · 11/04/2025 20:22

Everyone judges everyone else, it's a fact

Agree, it’s instinctual
If people think they are not being judged on their appearance they are delusional

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 12/04/2025 13:11

StrangerThings1 · 12/04/2025 13:06

Agree, it’s instinctual
If people think they are not being judged on their appearance they are delusional

But are you judging their ability to do their job because of their weight?

That teachers fat, she can't possibly know history is not something that ever crosses my mind.

StrangerThings1 · 12/04/2025 13:16

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 12/04/2025 13:11

But are you judging their ability to do their job because of their weight?

That teachers fat, she can't possibly know history is not something that ever crosses my mind.

Depends on how overweight they were and if they looked like a healthy overweight or not