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Paedophile taking his kid to sports at weekend

309 replies

Pumpkin05 · 06/04/2025 01:03

Long story short information has come to light someone I know was convicted and imprisoned for paedophile charges, some 20 years ago (Information is verifiable)
Flash forward he now has a wife and young child and takes said child to sports clubs and matches at the weekend.
AIBU to think this is strange, and not want my child to attend said sports matches with him there? or am I over-reacting?

OP posts:
mindutopia · 06/04/2025 08:42

I would feel grateful you know. They are absolutely everywhere and most of them are people you would never suspect. At least 1 in 20 but possibly as many as 1 in 5 children are sexually abused. Most by someone close to them. If your child has 20 children in their class or 20 friends they play with at activities or parties, one of those children will very likely have an adult in their life who is abusing them and is a risk to your child. Except you won’t know because they won’t have been convicted or made the papers.

I have 2 very close family members who have been convicted of CSA, but there no doubt are more. We are obviously NC with them, but I’ve also worked very hard with my dc on trusting their gut instinct. If someone or something makes them uncomfortable, they can make a fuss. Obviously, I am there keeping them safe when we are together, but when they are out in the world without me, they know they don’t have to be polite if someone is being weird or pushing their boundaries. I’ve worked very hard on getting them to speak up for themselves and others.

Not all abusers wear a big red sign like this one. And you can’t wrap them in bubble wrap. You can set boundaries for them (you can’t go to Joey’s house to play) and you can teach them how to trust their gut by encouraging them and rewarding them when they do.

Winifredtabago · 06/04/2025 08:44

springbringshope · 06/04/2025 07:54

The issue is that a person’s sexual attraction is exactly that. You can’t change someone’s predilection. You can’t coach someone not to be attracted to same sex or opposite sex or children. What can be done is the individual can choose not to act on it and can get therapy to help them choose not to act on it like a. Alcoholic can seek therapy to not drink. But the alcoholic is still within them.
The attraction is going to be there for life. It’s imprinted. A person who feels the attraction isn’t evil. They can’t help it. But they can choose not to act on it. The act is evil. They are stuck with an attraction they can never resolve nor act on. It’s like a gay person isn’t evil for being attracted to others of their sex or a person isn’t broken for being attracted to people if a certain race. The problem with being attracted to children is that acting on their desires is evil and involves a victim. There is a massive problem with people attracted to children unable to seek help to not act on it.
there are millions of people with the attraction that choose not to act on it because they know it’s evil to do so. Those people must live in torment and self hatred.

What does it mean though that all these paedophiles are in relationships and having sex with adult women? Your saying it's their sexual attraction to be attracted to kids. So how are they also able to have sex with grown women? I dont think many straight men could also have gay relationships for example. It does seem paedophilia is something different- an evil mind.

NilByMuff · 06/04/2025 08:49

Peadophiles can't be cured.
They just are.
And every parent should be very careful around one if they've been identified, time spent or not imo.

DottieMoon · 06/04/2025 09:37

StubbornStool · 06/04/2025 05:06

He’s done his time.

I hope you don’t have children.

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/04/2025 09:40

Statistically, there will be domestic abusers, child abusers and paedophiles amongst most gatherings of adults.

At least you know who he is. Keep a close eye. Yes, he’s served his sentence but he’s unlikely to be rehabilitated.

nachoaverageusername · 06/04/2025 09:46

ColinOfficeTrolley · 06/04/2025 05:42

Peadophiles cannot be rehabilitated.

I would be very around him.

I agree, I fancy men, and imagine I’ll always fancy men.

Paedophiles fancy kids, and surely will always do so, or have the memory of it. Also 20 years ago we let people get away with all sorts, the bar was high for conviction.

Shessweetbutapsycho · 06/04/2025 09:47

noworklifebalance · 06/04/2025 08:32

Entry level critical thinking would come up with several reasons why the “data” is unlikely to be reflective of reality.

Clearly not happy to be corrected then… 😂

ArtTheClown · 06/04/2025 09:54

Paedophilia isn't a sexual orientation, it is, as a PP said, a paraphilia. Ie a perversion.

noworklifebalance · 06/04/2025 09:58

Shessweetbutapsycho · 06/04/2025 09:47

Clearly not happy to be corrected then… 😂

Right back at you

lizzyBennet08 · 06/04/2025 10:06

To be fair I’m not sure there is much you can do and I think their child has a right to attend sports clubs as well as any other ( who knows maybe the mom doesn’t drive) and have their Dad cheer them on as any other child. ( even if he is a monster)
Id just keep a very close eye on my child at any event he was around.

TheKeatingFive · 06/04/2025 10:09

KickHimInTheCrotch · 06/04/2025 06:24

Practical things you can do:

You can obviously protect your child by making sure you don't leave them alone when its not safe to and talk to them in an age appropriate way about safety, that they know not to trust adults they don't know well. This will help protect them against all potentially dangerous adults, not just the one you know about.

Children's organised sports usually have very clear safeguarding arrangements so it is worth finding out what that is for your club and making sure you inform them of your concerns. The safeguarding lead will take appropriate actions.

Depending on the type of offences the Individual may still be on the register and may be monitored by the police. You can contact the police and inform them of your concerns, they may not be aware that he is attending the events and want to do further checks/disclosures.

This is sensible

Pyjamatimenow · 06/04/2025 10:10

Within that sports club and amongst the parents and extended families that attend there will be a good few others. It’s far more common than people realise. I would be grateful you know about this one and can be wary and encourage your child to be so too.

Pyjamatimenow · 06/04/2025 10:11

‘Grateful’ probably the wrong word but at least you know!

Apricotfuzz · 06/04/2025 10:13

RobinHeartella · 06/04/2025 06:07

I'm amazed at some of these relaxed responses. I wouldn't be happy about this at all. I don't know what you can do about it.

There is a disturbing movement, gaining increasing traction, to destigmatise pedophilia

Cloudyvibes · 06/04/2025 10:15

Justgoodforthegetting · 06/04/2025 06:39

Just playing devils advocate here OP but how much of the circumstances of his offending are you actually aware of?

people may disagree with me but I’d argue that an 18 year old having sexual contact with his 15 year old girlfriend then this being reported to police is very different from the same 18 year old grooming them raping or sexually assaulting their 6 year old cousin.

Both are criminal offences, both would lead to the male in question being on the sex offenders register for offences against children.
I’d argue that these two men would present wildly different risks to very young children.

If he is still on the register then he may be subject to certain conditions.
ultimately though, there are genuinely paedophiles absolutely everywhere in society, your children will come into contact with many. Just make sure you safeguard them.

I agree with this post.

Harassedevictee · 06/04/2025 10:17

Winifredtabago · 06/04/2025 08:44

What does it mean though that all these paedophiles are in relationships and having sex with adult women? Your saying it's their sexual attraction to be attracted to kids. So how are they also able to have sex with grown women? I dont think many straight men could also have gay relationships for example. It does seem paedophilia is something different- an evil mind.

Edited

As a pp has said posters are confusing sexual orientation and paraphilia’s.

Sexual Orientation is heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or asexual.

Paraphilias include voyeurism, exhibitionism, paedophillia, AGP etc.

You normally have one sexual orientation but can have multiple paraphilia’s.

x2boys · 06/04/2025 10:21

At least you know sbout him and can avoid him but really we should always have our guards up nobody would knows if their friendly next door is a paedophile ,if they have never been caught and convicted

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 06/04/2025 10:23

We're surrounded by them. The ones you don't know about are the problem, not the ones you do. You know about this one and can keep your child safe from them.

As PP says, you can't ban them from normal life once they've hoop-jumped, however ineffective it is. That is the law of the land and if you do anything in knee-jerk reaction you could find yourself on the wrong side of it.

NC28 · 06/04/2025 10:23

Agree with others that it’s better you know.

With that in mind, the idea of the presence of these filthy bastards always provokes a strong response from me (for which I’ll never apologise or be made to feel bad).

Although we know that they are all around us, it’s galling to have them swanning around like they’re a normal part of society when they should never be allowed to be.

In your position, OP, I’d make it clear to him that you know what he is. You don’t need to verbalise it, but I’d make it very, very clear to him that you know at any opportunity you get. I also wouldn’t be shy to warn any other parents you’re friendly with. A few whispers and he’ll probably fuck off back under his rock like the coward he is.

Ooral · 06/04/2025 10:30

RareAzureBee · 06/04/2025 06:40

What’s the context of the offence 20 years ago? If is was an offence against a young child and he has a young child that is highly worrying although it should have been assessed by social workers, probation etc as long as they knew about it. Or was it an offence more along the lines of him being a young adult having an underage relationship - still not acceptable, but doesn’t necessarily mean they are a risk to young children - hence why they are able to bring one unsupervised to a sports group.

^ This is the important information, if it's 15 & 18, then really no issue.
If it's a young child, then yes, not only a monster, but should be locked up for life as there is no rehabilitation in that case.

soupyspoon · 06/04/2025 10:36

Notsosure1 · 06/04/2025 07:41

I thought child sex offenders weren’t allowed to be within a certain distance of schools and places where kids will likely be, for life? If that’s not true I’m surprised - particularly if this one has actually been convicted bc he’d be on the sex offenders register

Not always, it depends on the restriction given

People are also muddling up 'being around children' with 'being unsupervised with a child without the person with PR's permission'

He isnt unsupervised with the children at the club is he?

ArtTheClown · 06/04/2025 10:36

I agree with a PP though - an eighteen year old having a relationship with a fifteen year old will not get serious, or any, jail time.
Think of the derisory sentences people with thousands of images of abuse get.

To get actually locked up, they must have done something very awful.

LlynTegid · 06/04/2025 10:36

I agree with your response OP. The starting point for me is that a presumption they are not rehabilitated. I agree with the person who pointed out what could be described as degrees of offence.

x2boys · 06/04/2025 10:43

ArtTheClown · 06/04/2025 10:36

I agree with a PP though - an eighteen year old having a relationship with a fifteen year old will not get serious, or any, jail time.
Think of the derisory sentences people with thousands of images of abuse get.

To get actually locked up, they must have done something very awful.

An 18 year.old having sex with a 15 year old isnt a paedophile either
It would be clsssed as having sex with a minor
A paedophile is somebody who is attracted to prepubescent childern.

soupyspoon · 06/04/2025 10:45

x2boys · 06/04/2025 10:43

An 18 year.old having sex with a 15 year old isnt a paedophile either
It would be clsssed as having sex with a minor
A paedophile is somebody who is attracted to prepubescent childern.

Yes but no one is convicted of being a pedophile. The are convicted of child sexual abuse

The problem is with these discussions is that people dont make the distinction and dont understand the terminology.

OP uses the word, thats not what the conviction was for, so it is unknown what happened.

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