Afghan women being denied refuge by government

[Maitri108]

It's very disturbing that Afghan women are having their claims turned down. We're all aware of how women can't work or speak in public. Human rights defenders are in grave danger and are being told that they don't face persecution if they go back.

26 women in 2024 had their claims rejected which is absolutely appalling.

26 out of how many? Are were there genuinely no valid reasons for rejecting them?

What valid reasons could there be? I don't know another country with worse treatment of women.

They could be criminals? Links to dangerous criminals? Use some imagination

At some point citizens of a country have to be the change.

It's shit. It's a terribly shit reality. But and I have no issue at all with skilled immigration
I am aware the UK would collapse without it.

But there's a lot of unrest in the world. I don't want to carry on with the theme we are open to all those with tragedy and danger in their home.

You certainly are. If you read the article posted, the letter stated, There are no compassionate factors in your case that warrant a grant of leave to remain outside the immigration rules.

We all know that's not true given how women are treated and how a human rights defender would be punished by the Taliban.

Personally I think every female currently in Afghanistan should be given asylum, if being told you can’t work, get an education, speak to anyone outwith your family, look out of windows isnt persecution then what is? And it would
leave the men in charge of the taliban with an interesting conundrum….

It’s not reasonable though to suggest that Afghan women be granted asylum here on the basis they are women living in a country where the laws are against them.

Plenty of countries have appalling human rights. But the change has to come from within. We simply can’t fix the world’s problems.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

How many women will that be exactly? How many women to be supported by the taxpayer?

It’s not feasible, no matter how many bleeding hearts call for it.

Unfortunately for those with no humanity, we are signed up to international treaties and laws meaning that we are obliged to grant refuge.

You can't compare Afghanistan to other countries. Women are imprisoned in Afghanistan en masse. They can't meet men's eyes, sing or speak loudly in their homes, work, get an education or leave without a chaperone.

How are they expected to make changes? They're beaten, sexually assaulted and killed if they contravene any laws.

The problem is there are 41 million people in Afghanistan. We can’t grant asylum to 20 million people.

I completely agree. However we're not talking about that.

So what are we talking about?
Just these few?
And then the next? And the next? And what about the next country to fall?

Nobody is suggesting that we should invite 20 miliion Afgahn women to all come and live in the UK! As if they'd all want to, or be able to get here.

The OP just thinks that we should grant asylum to the very small number who have already managed to make it here, instead of deporting them back to a country where they are very likely to face imprisonment (with rape/ sexual assault and other physical violence) and risk actual death.

Read the OP , that's the subject of the thread.

As a British woman, how could we help this particular woman OP?

Yes it's tough on individuals. But we now have about a million individuals in UK that we didn't invite. They ignored trying to stay in other safe countries but decided to pass them and come to us. There are safe Muslim countries that have a society much closer to their own but they come here.
We are broke, we are cutting long standing benefits, must we afford to finance yet more people?

Just because they are women, doesn’t make them a good person. There will be a good reason for this

Petition your local MP for a start. This woman faces torture or death if she goes back.

The reason given:

You likely have a great support network due to your occupation.

As a British woman, how could we help this particular woman OP?
Petition your local MP for a start.

Is it possible to crowdfund and raise enough money for her to go to a safe country so that she doesn't need taxpayer funds. Start with a local Mosque perhaps. They are not all like the Taliban

The letter stated, There are no compassionate factors in your case that warrant a grant of leave to remain outside the immigration rules

I've not seen it, but if that's so then presumably any claim of being persecuted will have been considered, and in these cases rejected

Certainly the situation for many Afghan women is appalling, but it doesn't necessarily follow that these 26 count among them. For all we know they could have close links to the Taliban leadership itself and be keen to settle elsewhere in order to bring others with them

Sorry, what? Your only intention is for another country to pick up the tab? She's already in a safe country. Why crowd fund for her to go to a different one? Simply so that tax payers of a different nationality support her?

The decision was made on her not being in danger of persecution. She's a human rights defender working to help Afghan women. I'm sure they'll welcome her back with open arms.

Mina (not her real name) worked for western government-backed projects and was involved in training and mentoring women across Afghanistan, which left her in grave danger even before the Taliban took over in 2021.

My voluntary work brings me into contact with asylum seekers and the Home Office, and this decision and the reasoning behind it makes no sense at all. It's mind bogglingly irrational.

She was astonishingly brave to do what she did over there, and it's unconscionable to send her back.

Well obviously it’s ridiculous and would
never happen but the fact that the world
is standing by and not giving a crap about this is pretty ridiculous too.