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hereslooking · 2025-04-01T19:04:51+00:00

Want to gauge reactions on if I’m being unreasonable regarding incident with Dd(12) and teachers response and what I should expect to happen. At lunch there were some older boys outside where her and her friends were and one of them threw anothers bag up on to the roof of an outbuilding. DD ended up volunteering to be lifted her up onto the roof to get the bag off and when she was up there a teacher walked past and saw. She was asked who helped her up and she lied and said that she climbed up on her own to avoid getting the boy in trouble as well. She obviously told how dangerous and stupid it was to be up there and if she fell how she could end up seriously hurt. All the boys offered to help her down safely and dd said that she did want want help/ didn’t want to jump on her own. The teacher then made all the other kids leave and said she was waiting there untill dd got herself down, which she did and managed to not hurt herself. Dd was expecting to be given a detention or something or to called out of class and spoken to further all afternoon but nothing happened. AIBU to be annoyed? I think the teacher handled this terribly and was irresponsible to force dd to jump down

Calliopespa · 01/04/2025 23:14

NorthernGirlie · 01/04/2025 20:15

At no point in teacher training do they tell you you have to deal with this shit and then deal with batshit patents on top of it!

You're right op, the teacher should have rang the fire brigade / knitted her a parachute / carried her down on a silk pillow... I'm desperate to hear your solution

Well a ladder isn’t that far-fetched.

But the teacher was right not to involve other children. In any case DD did volunteer to be lifted; it’s not like the others catapulted her up against her will.

CharlotteByrde · 01/04/2025 23:24

A ladder might not sound far-fetched, but if the teacher had left to get a ladder and she'd fallen while unsupervised and was injured or he brought the ladder, and was not ladder-trained (no I'm not joking), told the girl to climb down and the ladder slipped and the child fell and was injured? He chose the safest method and it worked.

Nichebitch · 01/04/2025 23:25

OP I’m with you 100%, I honesty despair with mumsnet sometimes. Of course it’s bad she lied and you should deal with that (but you have said that!), but to the posters piling up on you defending the teacher - she put herself in that situation but she’s 12! It doesn’t matter who’s fault was it or why she ended up there, if she was in any risk it should have been handled differently and it should have been reported. It’s a safeguarding issue! I work in a school and i can’t imagine that “she did that to herself / gotcha” situation happening, it’s absurd.

moto748e · 01/04/2025 23:35

CharlotteByrde · 01/04/2025 23:24

A ladder might not sound far-fetched, but if the teacher had left to get a ladder and she'd fallen while unsupervised and was injured or he brought the ladder, and was not ladder-trained (no I'm not joking), told the girl to climb down and the ladder slipped and the child fell and was injured? He chose the safest method and it worked.

The teacher doesn't leave to get the ladder. He/she stays right there, and sends a boy to get the ladder.

Calliopespa · 01/04/2025 23:35

CharlotteByrde · 01/04/2025 23:24

A ladder might not sound far-fetched, but if the teacher had left to get a ladder and she'd fallen while unsupervised and was injured or he brought the ladder, and was not ladder-trained (no I'm not joking), told the girl to climb down and the ladder slipped and the child fell and was injured? He chose the safest method and it worked.

But surely you’d stay with the child and send other children to the staff room for back up?

Proudmummy67 · 01/04/2025 23:36

You're lucky a responsible adult was there who could manage the situation. Imagine if this had been outside of school or an unsafe building with no one around to help if the roof fell through etc. She's had a lucky escape!

Also I feel a bit uncomfortable about a small year 7 girl mixing with older boys and doing what they say. I'd also want to know more about that side of the situation.

BusyMum47 · 01/04/2025 23:37

Jelly0naplate · 01/04/2025 20:12

Your daughter agreed to do something stupid and dangerous and then lied about it when caught by the teacher.

the teacher probably didn't want the boys to help incase of a misplaced hand and to avoid anyone being accused of anything.

She said she got up there herself so the teacher thought she could get down by herself.

I don't think the blame sits with the teacher

This. 🤷‍♀️

WaffleParty · 01/04/2025 23:42

moto748e · 01/04/2025 23:35

The teacher doesn't leave to get the ladder. He/she stays right there, and sends a boy to get the ladder.

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A teenage boy walking through a secondary school with a ladder. Yup, definitely nothing that could go wrong with that plan!

Calliopespa · 01/04/2025 23:44

WaffleParty · 01/04/2025 23:42

A teenage boy walking through a secondary school with a ladder. Yup, definitely nothing that could go wrong with that plan!

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He’d get a staff member. How daft is this thread going to get?

CharlotteByrde · 01/04/2025 23:44

In a secondary school, the ladder is a non-starter. You can't have it carried by the children, The teacher can't climb it. The caretaker won't. It could have been more risky for the girl. The only alternative that teacher had was the fire brigade.

Calliopespa · 01/04/2025 23:45

CharlotteByrde · 01/04/2025 23:44

In a secondary school, the ladder is a non-starter. You can't have it carried by the children, The teacher can't climb it. The caretaker won't. It could have been more risky for the girl. The only alternative that teacher had was the fire brigade.

Quite honestly, why not the fire brigade?

But a child sent to the staff room was a logical starting point.

honeylulu · 01/04/2025 23:49

I don't think the teacher handled it well. Yes she did something "stupid and dangerous" but teachers should be expected to have more common sense than impulsive 12 year olds. Making her jump down from the roof was stupid and dangerous too. I note she didn't get a detention or similar so the teacher probably realised he had handled it badly and was relieved he had got away with it rather than having to explain a broken ankle or two.

And as for it being her "punishment for lying" ... times have changed. When I was school teachers would tell us off for "telling tales" on each other. They didn't want to know.

CharlotteByrde · 01/04/2025 23:55

Calliopespa · 01/04/2025 23:45

Quite honestly, why not the fire brigade?

But a child sent to the staff room was a logical starting point.

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Because the teacher did a risk assessment, saw that the drop was perfectly doable and the girl got down safely and uninjured, saving the emergency services an unnecessary call out. We weren’t there so it’s impossible to know for sure but the fact the girl was completely unhurt suggests he did the right thing.

Calliopespa · 02/04/2025 00:05

CharlotteByrde · 01/04/2025 23:55

Because the teacher did a risk assessment, saw that the drop was perfectly doable and the girl got down safely and uninjured, saving the emergency services an unnecessary call out. We weren’t there so it’s impossible to know for sure but the fact the girl was completely unhurt suggests he did the right thing.

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Op we need a diagram with measurements 🤣

1SillySossij · 02/04/2025 00:41

The op had made a Schoolboy error, don't tell lies unless you have a very good memory. The OP changes the gender of the teacher from female in the first post, to male a little while on

LilacPeony · 02/04/2025 00:47

hereslooking · 01/04/2025 20:42

I haven’t actually seen the building so I don’t know. Apparently it’s one story but it’s raised, have to go up steps to get in. And it’s wooden and covered in moss so slippery.

To get up she had to stand on the tallest boys shoulders who was stood on the top step and then pull herself up.

The jumping down meant her having to fall onto her side which was sore but she wasn’t injured. Once she lowered herself with her arms her feet were still at least her height from the ground.

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The teacher was there and decided it was safe and she was correct as your dd is unhurt. As you say, you haven't seen the building.

Calliopespa · 02/04/2025 00:49

LilacPeony · 02/04/2025 00:47

The teacher was there and decided it was safe and she was correct as your dd is unhurt. As you say, you haven't seen the building.

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It was probably a dugout! 🤣

ConsuelaHammock · 02/04/2025 00:55

Teach your daughter not to lie. Everything that happened here is on your daughter. The teacher called her out on her behaviour. Well done to the teacher . If your daughter had fallen ?? Well I suppose it would have hurt !
Are parents really this stupid nowadays?

What happened to ‘ What the fuck were you doing climbing onto a roof in the first place ?’

Proudestmumofone1 · 02/04/2025 00:59

Honestly these threads of teacher bashing are my new mumsnet highlights.

On what planet is a teacher to blame for a child jumping onto a roof?! How on earth do parents think like this,,, your daughter is the issue, not the teacher!!!!

Changedusernameforthis2 · 02/04/2025 06:25

moto748e · 01/04/2025 23:35

The teacher doesn't leave to get the ladder. He/she stays right there, and sends a boy to get the ladder.

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Hahahahahahhaahahaha
You know nothing about schools. 16 year boy sent off to site team allowed to carry a ladder through busy playground

Changedusernameforthis2 · 02/04/2025 06:26

Calliopespa · 01/04/2025 23:45

Quite honestly, why not the fire brigade?

But a child sent to the staff room was a logical starting point.

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Hahahahhaahaha staff room? You mean the abandoned tiny room that no one is in as breaks are now so short you can't get there and have a wee in the same half hour?

HelenWheels · 02/04/2025 06:34

but she was ok, she jumped down without issue
you have no grounds to complain!

Notsosure1 · 02/04/2025 06:42

ExtraOnions · 01/04/2025 20:13

So DD climbs on a roof she’s not supposed to be on, lies to a teacher, and then get’s herself down … and the one you are annoyed at is the teacher?

Had the Teacher allowed the boys to help, and she had been hurt - then I suppose that would also be the Teachers fault

It’s Parents like you that make it hard for Schools to instill discipline … raising your Children with zero accountability.

Exactly this - you’re not angry with your daughter for needlessly putting herself at risk (twice) by not asking a member of staff to retrieve the bag in the first place or tell the teacher she needed help getting down if she felt unsafe.

1SillySossij · 02/04/2025 06:47

Op - can you explain

why you describe the teacher on multiple occasions as female and then later on as male more than once?
how you can so confidently describe a building you claim to have never seen?

furrysocks · 02/04/2025 06:53

Poor teacher - probably only had a ten minute window at lunch to throw down some lunch and go to the loo and has to waste half of it watching some kid piss about getting off a roof.