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My mum’s in an abusive relationship - with her own son

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hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 19:58

Would you tolerate this from your adult son?

For years I’ve watched my mum live in an emotionally, verbally, physically, and financially abusive relationship with my 18-year-old brother.

He follows Andrew Tate’s misogynistic “red pill” incel ideology and believes women exist to serve men. My mum hides the abuse and makes excuses for him, but it’s getting worse. He’s been physically abusive—pushing, punching her, throwing objects at me when I was pregnant, and kicking holes in doors. His behavior keeps escalating.

He controls every aspect of her life and treats her like a servant. She has to cook expensive meals (which are never good enough and often have to be redone), run his baths (and re-run them when the water gets cold because he hasn’t gotten in yet), and constantly take him on shopping trips. She has to go upstairs to turn off his light even when he’s sitting right next to it. If she makes noise while he’s on the phone, she’s not allowed upstairs. Once, he smashed a plate of curry against the wall because it wasn’t “good enough.”

She has no social life because she has to cater to him 24/7. He doesn’t let her leave the house without permission, and if she does, he bombards her with calls, texts, and thumps on the walls if she doesn’t answer. She has to tell him exactly where she is, and he demands she come home when he says so. If she doesn’t comply, he punishes her—like when he trashed the house while she was in the hospital with sepsis.

He financially abuses her. He uses her bank card to buy himself luxury clothes, takeaways, and other expensive items, forcing her to spend £200 on Ozempic and over £1000 on a caravan holiday for him. She’s in debt, and he keeps getting her card blocked. Every week, she drives miles to buy designer goods for him, only for him to send her back to return them if he changes his mind.

When they go shopping, he sits in the café while she runs around getting everything on his list. If she gets something wrong, he sends her back multiple times. Once she’s finally done, she has to wait an hour for him to finish texting his online friends before he lets her pay and go home.

Her work life is suffering because of him. She’s late every day because she has to wait until he’s ready to be dropped at college—if she doesn’t, he refuses to go. She has to leave work at lunchtime to pick him up. Sometimes, he demands she come home just to fix the WiFi. When she works from home, he still controls her. She has to cook for him, bring him food, and go up to his room whenever he demands, even if she’s in meetings. She dreads being at home.

She gets no rest. He wakes her up in the middle of the night to cook for him or just to demand her attention, even though she has to work in the morning. He makes her drive him to the gym in the middle of the night, wait in the car for hours, then come home and cook his meals.

Last year, on holiday with us, she had to drive back home every night to cook for him and take him to the gym. In the end, he forced her to pay for a separate hotel room so he could come too. She had to stay with him and do whatever he said, only leaving to see us when he allowed it.

She’s exhausted, but she won’t stand up to him. She’s scared of him because he’s 6’4, physically intimidating, and the abuse gets worse when she tries to set boundaries. She jumps every time her phone rings because she knows it’s him, demanding something. She says there’s nothing she can do and believes she’ll have to work forever just to support him. She has health issues, and this is only making them worse.

AIBU to feel so angry and sad that I can’t seem to help her in any way. I want to show her responses from people who can see how abusive and unacceptable this is. What would you advise her to do?

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knitnerd90 · 31/03/2025 22:20

Unfortunately this scenario is all too possible. This type of abuse does happen and this was the perfect setup. Both mum & son have learnt behaviors from a previous abusive relationship. She is returning to the victim role and he has learnt to be the abuser.

I don't have any good advice OP, I don't know if there are specific charities for this sort of thing. I would encourage you to keep in touch with the police and adult social services. I am so very sorry.

RareAuldTimes · 31/03/2025 22:20

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hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 22:21

Pinacollider · 31/03/2025 22:18

I felt exactly the same to be honest!

My mum's situation only ended as she passed away from cancer. I hate that he caused her so much stress in her final years, although we didn't know it at the time. It was very sudden.

I'm pretty sure my brother has PDA

I’m so sorry about your mum and the situation you were in. I have so much anger at the way my mum has and is being treated. I want him removed from the earth. There’s no forgiving any of this ever. It’s so so sad. X

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Wishyouwerehere50 · 31/03/2025 22:19

I didn't think the Respect programme dealt with this stuff. I wonder the extent to which they consider the fact many of these guys are scarily personality disordered - I'm talking sociopathic or psychopathic.

This guy, like many, sounds exactly that. There's no fixing this, only removing him from the mum and sister and keeping him at a distance. You can't fix this or rehabilitate or mediate through this. The guy is scary.

If this is a new thing Prevent are doing, that's a positive thing to hear.

It deals with a lot tbh (I work on this)

middleeasternpromise · 31/03/2025 22:22

This can be a very complex area of family relational harm, your mother will no doubt feel a sense of responsibility to protect your brother, her son and in so doing may not be able to admit it is problematic. There are specialist agencies who understand this type of situation and it would be important to try to get help from those who have specific knowledge in this area.

https://www.respect.org.uk/pages/114-capva

There are risks in situations like this of escalation if the right support is not put in place. Your mother may well be fearing this without really knowing why. The first step is to feel understood enough to be able to start talking about what is going on.

CAPVA | Respect

Child and Adolescent to Parent Violence and Abuse

https://www.respect.org.uk/pages/114-capva

RunningJo · 31/03/2025 22:25

I would call the police and ask for their advice, call the helplines for domestic abuse & speak to them

Ask your Mum how she would feel if she had to watch you be treated this way by anyone, let alone a family member. Tell her your brother needs help, and do get that help she needs to speak to someone about his behaviour. That there are no excuses for how he treats her, and if she doesn’t stand up to him by asking for help, he is at risk of doing some serious damage to someone.
Perhaps steer the conversation into a ‘helping him’ type thing. She might find it easier if she thinks she is helping him

It’s a horrible situation for her to be in, it’s a pity you don’t have some male relatives who could stay with your Mum for a while.

Octopus1 · 31/03/2025 22:26

OP this is is heartbreaking to read. I’m so sorry for you. I’m the same age as you, with a son also, and I can’t imagine going through motherhood dealing with the stress you are under.

I’m not that clued up on who to call and what do about the situation, but I’d recommend contacting everyone pps have said here (women’s aid, police etc.) I know you’ve said you’ve already contacted the police but now he is 18 things will be dealt with differently as he is legally an adult.

It’s such a horrible situation because you must love your mum so much but the feeling of wanting to help and feeling like there’s nothing you can do to help, is very overwhelming and draining. I hope you have good friends/ other family around you who support you. Try and focus on doing some nice things for yourself during this time, you matter too. ❤️

TinyTheresa · 31/03/2025 22:28

Unfortunately filial abuse (the official name) is on the rise.

There's very little a devoted mother can do to help the situation for herself or for the abusive child, the usual way of informing against someone to the police will just leave her with a bigger problem down the line unless she is prepared to cut all ties, which obviously most mothers don't.

Cucy · 31/03/2025 22:30

You’ve had lots of good advice.

I would put a recurring device in your mums and get evidence to take to the police.

I would absolutely speak to charities where men can help by being good role models (and potentially scare the crap out of him).

I know many men who would be disgusted by his behaviour towards your mum and would absolutely take home down a peg or 2.

I wonder if it’s worth trying to contact the ‘gf’. Somehow letting her find out what he’s like might shame him into acting better but if she dumps him then it may make him worse.

I would try and have lots of alone time with your mum and encourage her to vent on here.

I work in prisons and your brother is 100% going to end up in one.
They are not nice places, especially for an 18yo who thinks he runs the place.

Tell her if she wants to stop that from happening then she needs to get help for HIS sake, not just hers.

IVFmumoftwo · 31/03/2025 22:31

He sounds like a very dangerous incel type.

Jabtastic · 31/03/2025 22:32

Your mother needs to see your brother as what he is - the human equivalent of an XL Bully dog. One day he is going to kill her. Allowing him to stay is choosing death at his hands. She needs to emotionally disengage now. Whatever mistakes she has made, he is choosing to harm her.

Branster · 31/03/2025 22:41

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Surely you'd worry for your daughters coming across a man like this?

If this is actually true OP, you need to contact the police and ask for support lines for your mother. Of organisations helping women living with domestic abuse.
This is extremely serious and dangerous.
Statistically, she could be killed by her own son. You must step in and help her.
Do you have any male relatives/friends you could ask to help with a few stern words and kick him out of the house.
This man will cause unbelievable harm to women if he is not stopped. This is his last chance (based on age) to get help and remedy his attitude and he needs professional intervention. He needs direction and he needs to fail big time in order to build himself up. Otherwise he will end up in prison very soon due to an outburst of violence.
Also, he clearly has far too much time on his hands, he needs a physical job to keep him busy, cure this stupid laziness of his, tire him out and bring him the funds for all this shopping he wants.
The way you describe him OP, I can't imagine anyone wanting to spend time with him. Apart from other young men with similar attitudes.

Ryanstartedthefire22 · 31/03/2025 22:47

He is a narcissist and she is codependent. She MUST go to counselling. Talking to someone outside the family who understands this type of abuse will help her come to the light.

CroissantOfFur · 31/03/2025 22:49

Poppyseeds79 · 31/03/2025 20:54

So your mum was okay with you moving into a hostel because your brother was abusing you OP? But not prepared for him to have to move into one?

This. Sounds like he is the golden child who can do no wrong.

WoodyOwl · 31/03/2025 22:50

How old is your mum? Could she contact Age UK? This sounds like elder abuse.

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/health-wellbeing/relationships-family/protection-from-abuse/

I think there is only one way out of this and that is that she kicks him out. Could she pay a deposit and a month's rent for him and tell him to figure it out from there?

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/health-wellbeing/relationships-family/protection-from-abuse/

My2cents1975 · 31/03/2025 22:51

Age UK

Call the Age UK Advice Line on 0800 678 1602

Call Hourglass on 0808 808 8141

Document everything, get help and come up with a plan because the situation you are describing is textbook elder abuse.

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/health-wellbeing/relationships-family/protection-from-abuse/

XelaM · 31/03/2025 22:54

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I have a brother who is absolutely lovely to my mum (and dad) and no boys/men in my family have ever behaved that way to their mothers or any women in their lives.

If this is real, he is either mentally ill or horribly brought up.

uncomfortablydumb60 · 31/03/2025 22:56

Your poor, poor Mum. All I can suggest you can do is report all of this to Adult Social care, as a concerned relative
It’s an obvious safeguarding risk as well as Domestic abuse.

KhakiOrca · 31/03/2025 22:56

She could get help from women's aid, they're amazing and very secretive too. They could put her in touch with many organisations

IVFmumoftwo · 31/03/2025 22:57

Jabtastic · 31/03/2025 22:32

Your mother needs to see your brother as what he is - the human equivalent of an XL Bully dog. One day he is going to kill her. Allowing him to stay is choosing death at his hands. She needs to emotionally disengage now. Whatever mistakes she has made, he is choosing to harm her.

Definitely. He sounds like he hates women.

LavendersBlueeee · 31/03/2025 22:57

This is awful to read OP
How do you know all these details, does your mum tell you everything? Given what youve described I am surprised she’s so open with you about it all, it’s good if she is telling you, just IME abused women usually hold a lot of the details back instead of sharing them with someone. Does she tell you everything that happens with him? Have you asked her why she tells you if she doesn’t want to do anything about it?

JHound · 31/03/2025 23:00

My brother is a social worker and he told me I would be shocked at just how many DV situations there are……where the woman’s abuser is her son. A number of femicide victims were also killed by their son.

Like most DV victims she cannot see the situation for what it is and makes excuses for her abuser. Try to get her help and to talk to a charity that assists women in her situation.

PussInBin20 · 31/03/2025 23:05

She is a victim of “coercive and controlling behaviour”. It’s an offence in its own right for which he can receive a prison sentence for.

please encourage her to access the support agencies who can hopefully help her to see him for what he is. Look up your local Force’s website- there will be lots of DV support groups on there.

Tell her to keep all of the messages too.

Vileperson · 31/03/2025 23:05

If that were my brother( I'm assuming younger?) I would go round and literally punch him in the balls and say if he ever even looks at my mum the wrong way again I will personally come round and remove him from the house and make sure everyone knows what a pathetic little man he is abusing his own mother. Don't think everyone pandering to him is doing anyone any good here!

kungfoofighting · 31/03/2025 23:07

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:02

She won’t kick him out. Feels sorry for him and won’t let him fail😞

She is enabling him to fail – that is not to victim blame – but if her appeasement of his abuse is in part motivated by a fear of seeing him fail, she needs to understand that allowing this dysfunctional situation to go on will not help him. I guess she knows already how damaging it is for her. But it is damaging for him too (however unpleasant he may be).

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