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Feeling very uncomfortable and almost violated after visit today by BT Engineer

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DontGoChasinWaterfalls · 25/03/2025 16:10

I need a sense check and to realise I'm not overreacting.
BT engineer came today to upgrade my service to fibre optic broadband. He was late first of all which could've been accepted if he acknowledged he was late and apologised. He stepped into my house with his work boots on and I asked if he would mind wearing shoe covers as I have grey carpets. I'd never ask workmen to take shoes off and I provide the blue shoe coverings. He huffed and said he has to go in and out my house. Immediately I felt uncomfortable but explained I have a small child who sits and crawls on the carpet. He reluctantly agreed.
He somehow managed to jam the lock on my porch door by trying to leave it on the latch. After 15 minutes I managed to release it. He then tells me he needs a colleague to come to do something outside with the plyons and phrased it as "if it's after 2pm they won't bother coming". He eventually starts work after 40 minutes after faffing and I go upstairs to do some work.
5 minutes later I hear a panicked call asking if he could use my bathroom. Before I could say anything he was half way up the stairs. I froze and he directed himself to the bathroom. He was in there for 20 minutes and I was now downstairs feeling quite upset. Eventually he comes downstairs and doesn't say anything. I went upstairs to survey the damage and it was horrendous to say the least. To make things worse he rooted through my wardrobe to find the toilet paper.
I feel disgusted and sick..but feel like I'm overreacting as I don't know if he was unwell or has a medical condition.
He's got to come back tomorrow and I don't want him here.
aibu to call OpenReach to request another engineer???

OP posts:
JenniferBooth · 28/03/2025 19:29

Redpeach · 27/03/2025 08:51

If i was a workman in someone else's house i would not spend 20 mins having a shit

Where do you stand on the benefit cuts. Particularly when it comes to Crohns Ulcerative Colitis IBD etc

MichaelandKirk · 28/03/2025 19:32

This sounds most odd and gently - are you OK?

PassingStranger · 28/03/2025 19:44

TulipCat · 25/03/2025 16:23

I'd say it's a mixture of him being a bit crap and you being a bit unreasonable. Shoes/shoe covers - tradesmen do need to go in and out. It's just shoes, and it hasn't been wet in most of the UK recently. You could put a dust sheet down if it bothers you. Door latch - has that never happened to you before? Sounds like a non-event

Him coming upstairs and going looking for loo paper - absolutely not, he shouldn't be doing that

Edited

Agree on the shoe thing.just put a dust sheet or old blanket down.

JenniferBooth · 28/03/2025 19:45

Delatron · 28/03/2025 08:54

It’s a shame this thread has descended in to being about refusing workmen the toilet. OP didn’t refuse the man the toilet she had an issue with the toilet being left in a shitty state and the invasion of privacy by him going in to her bedroom unnecessarily..

Plenty of posters on here WOULD refuse.

And i cant help wondering what some of the replies would be if OP was a housing association tenant kicking off about an HA workman

PassingStranger · 28/03/2025 19:51

ChappellRoan · 27/03/2025 10:11

I think you're being unreasonable.
if someone needs the toilet they need the toilet. It's a human right to be able to go to the toilet and not to leave toilet paper out in a BATHROOM is ridiculous. Yes he shouldn't have got to your wardrobe to get the paper but if it was visable from the bathroom what was he meant to do? If he's just gone for a shit I doubt he'd say to you 'can I have some big roll please I've just done a twirl of shame in your toilet and need to wipe my arse.'

the door lock is a non-event. He put it on the latch as he was in and out.
tradies need to go in and out, if I know one is coming I put covers down on the floor or I don't bother and clean up any mess afterwards. It's dry in the UK not wet atm.
you moaned that he was late so going out to a public bathroom would've made him even more late. What was he meant to do?
you're overreacting imo. Yes he wasn't great my any means but I think it's really nasty not to want to let someone use a toilet. A toilet is for shit and piss. It's what it's there for.

Agree, when will.people realise life is so much easier if your nice. I always offer workman a drink too. It's basic good manners.

LoveFridaynight · 28/03/2025 20:23

greengreyblue · 28/03/2025 19:14

No issue with using. Op had no issue with using. She had issue with leaving it in a mess and gou. Hi to her bedroom. RTFT

I did. And I was referring to you and others saying you wouldn't let people use your toilet.

Isinglass20 · 28/03/2025 20:35

Oh honestly. OP complains and BT apologises and rolls eyes and shares with colleagues.

Then tells OP if she wants to another engineer it will be a long wait.

Then another engineer eventually arrives with a knowing look on his face -how embarrassing.

I would’ve told the engineer that he’d left the bathroom in a mess and ask why was he accessing your wardrobe and embarrassed him rather than the job left uncompleted because you’ve complained

celticprincess · 28/03/2025 20:52

Well if he has some kind of IBS or something worse like crohns then I suspect you’d have had a worse mess to clean up of you hadn’t have allowed him to use your loo. If he came to mine the and I sent him to the nearest public loo whilst needing to go that urgently I’d suspect he wouldn’t make it. As someone who has been on that situation it would be awful for him. He should, however, have cleaned up after himself.

Cant comment on the loo roll thing. He was probably too embarrassed to ask and if he did see it as you suspect he probably tried to get it discreetly. I suspect he wouldn’t have had time to rummage and be nosey.

As for the carpet issue. Your baby won’t die from one person walking on the carpet. If you’re that phobic then never take them to soft play or a park. Or even out of the house where they might suddenly decide to crawl. I can understand not wanting to dirty your carpet if they’re light coloured and they had dirty shoes. But workmen often do come in and out.

user9632579 · 28/03/2025 21:00

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 28/03/2025 14:33

"Them" 🙄 You do know your guests and lowly trades people shit the same? Being autistic and having OCD are not an excuse for unkindness.

No, they don't treat my toilet the same. My family guests are very hygienic.

You can see it as unkind if you like.

user9632579 · 28/03/2025 21:01

LoveFridaynight · 28/03/2025 14:58

Work people?
Nice attitude. Suppose they desperately need the loo. Would you be happy with them just shitting in a different room or on your lawn?
I suggest you don't have "work people* in your house with that attitude.

I don't have a lawn. They can go and find a toilet. The same way they would if I was walking and needed the loo.
Tradespeople and workspeople indeed. Other professions don't tend to enter my home.

user9632579 · 28/03/2025 21:03

asrl78 · 28/03/2025 18:38

Yes he should have asked for permission to use the toilet and sometimes when people need to go, then NEED to go. I was told that from a work colleague who had chron's, but equally they could have an onset of food poisoning requiring an emergency bowel evacuation.

That's not acceptable sorry. From someone with IBS.

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 28/03/2025 21:05

user9632579 · 28/03/2025 21:01

I don't have a lawn. They can go and find a toilet. The same way they would if I was walking and needed the loo.
Tradespeople and workspeople indeed. Other professions don't tend to enter my home.

Stop being so pedantic. How would you like to be at work for a few hours or maybe all day without toilet facilities? It doesn't matter if you have a lawn or not. Nor what you would do if you were walking as that is a totally different scenario.

Y737 · 28/03/2025 21:44

I had a very unpleasant experience with an ignorant BTOpenreach engineer, who shouted at me and threatened not to do the work when I asked him whether he was coming in after he had sat outside in his van for 15 mins without making contact. I was worried he would drive off for reasons I would never know. He was so intimidating and made me tremble but I had waited such a long time for the appointment that I didn’t want to tell him to get lost. When I complained about him, it was clear that his boss didn’t take it seriously. Please put your experience in writing and see if you can find a decent customer services section who will investigate. Some people clearly need to be trained properly to work in the homes of members of the public.

user9632579 · 28/03/2025 22:04

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 28/03/2025 21:05

Stop being so pedantic. How would you like to be at work for a few hours or maybe all day without toilet facilities? It doesn't matter if you have a lawn or not. Nor what you would do if you were walking as that is a totally different scenario.

If I needed to use the toilet during the day and I wasn't at home I'd find one. I wouldn't knock at houses and demand to use their toilet, it's my issue not theirs.

JHound · 28/03/2025 22:07

I would make a formal complaint.

I had my internet installed and the guy offered to take his shoes off and he still had to go in and out. Sounds like an abrasive dick. I hate workmen like this.

JHound · 28/03/2025 22:08

MoonWoman69 · 27/03/2025 08:33

He wasn't "rifling", "rummaging" or "poking" round her wardrobe! He'd obviously seen the toilet roll as he passed, which was fully on display by the sound of it! He probably took one, in case the OP hadn't any spare on display in the bathroom and he didn't know how much there was in there, and/or to prevent having to look through cupboards!
Why MNetters start embellishing and fabricating facts when it comes to incidents like this absolutely baffles me!

I would never go into somebody’s bedroom to get toilet tissue. Even if I had seen it. I would ask them.

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You asked what I'd do if I needed the toilet at work and I told you.

They don't. Have you ever been in mens public toilets?

JHound · 28/03/2025 22:18

Having somebody work in your house bit deny them access to a toilet is weird.

Really really really weird.

Tandora · 28/03/2025 22:19

user9632579 · 28/03/2025 22:16

You asked what I'd do if I needed the toilet at work and I told you.

They don't. Have you ever been in mens public toilets?

I’ve never been in a workplace that doesn’t have a toilet. :// utter madness.

user9632579 · 28/03/2025 22:20

JHound · 28/03/2025 22:18

Having somebody work in your house bit deny them access to a toilet is weird.

Really really really weird.

I'm autistic. I don't care if it's viewed as weird. As long as I don't have to feel overly anxious in my own home I'm good.