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Can no longer be arsed with this person…

380 replies

CouchSpud · 23/03/2025 21:13

A woman in work who is emotionally all over the place, I can never tell what mood she’s going to be in.

I am pretty good at getting on with everyone, I don’t like conflict and will happily say sorry to appease a situation, even if I’m not in the wrong. I’m anything for an easy life.

This woman finds offence so easily and will strop and cry.

I made her cry the other day by making a very socially acceptable joke about what she was doing. She was struggling with opening the staffroom door. I was behind her and just said ‘would you like an adult to help you’ laughing, expecting her to laugh along too. The door can be tricky and everyone struggles with it. I think this is also a well known joke.

She glared at me, said ‘really?!’ then ran off down the corridor crying. I didn’t follow.

I have spoken to others , and they agree with me that her response was ridiculous. But it turned out she’d been having a shit week, she’s apologised to me over email, which I acknowledged. But she’s now upset with me for not apologising back.

If I’m honest, I don’t want to apologise. I can’t be arsed!… I just don’t want to interact with her at all anymore, as this isn’t the 1st time this has happened with me or others. The unpredictability or her moods is not worth the stress.

OP posts:
Barrenfieldoffucks · 24/03/2025 13:44

ThirdGeneration · 24/03/2025 09:46

OP, if you’d kept it professional and brief in the first place, you wouldn’t be in this situation now.

It sounded like - and it sounds like it was intended as - a put-down. Don’t put people down in the office either publicly or privately. It’s bullying and unprofessional. She might have extreme reactions, but it’s not nice to goad people into having those reactions.

If someone is having difficulty with a known difficult door, the professional thing would simply have been to help her hold the door open without saying anything. So much smoother and gentler an interaction, so much less effort, so much more professional and yet human.

The fact you didn’t help though you were there, but chose to mock her instead, says a lot.

The ‘jokers’ in the office are rarely as popular as they like to think they are. People will be eye-rolling about you as much as about her. I guarantee it. They’ll support you to your face because in your own way you’re just as much of a drama queen.

Actually, she’s been the bigger person by apologising first. That’s why you feel uncomfortable as you haven’t come off very well, in what you said first and not wanting to apologise second. She may be over-emotional, but she is showing steel by expecting an apology back. Don’t underestimate her, she’s had enough of you.

Yes, absolutely.

Choughinthemist · 24/03/2025 14:00

It's like those blokes that say oh I'm just inappropriate, I'm a joker. Hint, no-one thinks that.

Cattery · 24/03/2025 14:05

Do you work in the public sector?

ThereWillBeSigns · 24/03/2025 14:25

[I found the joke funny]

GabriellaMontez · 24/03/2025 17:32

You have a sensitive colleague and you don't know if you're coming or going with her.

Why choose this person to make the butt of your shit joke?

Meceme · 24/03/2025 17:51

ThereWillBeSigns · 24/03/2025 14:25

[I found the joke funny]

In the right place, with the right person, in the right tone I agree.
At work, with a stressed,anxious person you don't have a close relationship with, possibly coming across as patronising or sarky .... not so much.

TheseCalmSeas · 24/03/2025 18:51

ThirdGeneration · 24/03/2025 09:46

OP, if you’d kept it professional and brief in the first place, you wouldn’t be in this situation now.

It sounded like - and it sounds like it was intended as - a put-down. Don’t put people down in the office either publicly or privately. It’s bullying and unprofessional. She might have extreme reactions, but it’s not nice to goad people into having those reactions.

If someone is having difficulty with a known difficult door, the professional thing would simply have been to help her hold the door open without saying anything. So much smoother and gentler an interaction, so much less effort, so much more professional and yet human.

The fact you didn’t help though you were there, but chose to mock her instead, says a lot.

The ‘jokers’ in the office are rarely as popular as they like to think they are. People will be eye-rolling about you as much as about her. I guarantee it. They’ll support you to your face because in your own way you’re just as much of a drama queen.

Actually, she’s been the bigger person by apologising first. That’s why you feel uncomfortable as you haven’t come off very well, in what you said first and not wanting to apologise second. She may be over-emotional, but she is showing steel by expecting an apology back. Don’t underestimate her, she’s had enough of you.

You sound fun

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Well you sound lovely ....🫤

MidwichCuckoo · 24/03/2025 20:13

TheseCalmSeas · 24/03/2025 18:51

You sound fun

It's not fun to upset people by patronising them. Especially if you already know they're sensitive.

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2025 20:58

Have you apologised OP or decided against it in the end?

AmIthatSpringy · 24/03/2025 21:00

TheseCalmSeas · 24/03/2025 18:51

You sound fun

What a weird conclusion

There's nothing in that comment that indicates the poster is not fun.

plus what they said is all true

Butchyrestingface · 24/03/2025 21:03

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2025 20:58

Have you apologised OP or decided against it in the end?

After the early doors swearing, eye-rolling, accusing other posters of being bullies and flouncing, I suspect the chances of an apology to her colleague are slim to none.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 24/03/2025 21:04

JLou08 · 23/03/2025 21:41

I think what you said was quite patronising, definitely not a joke I have heard. I'm not easily offended and open to banter but you know this woman isn't so why did you say it? I wonder if she ran of crying because she is actually being bullied by you and your colleagues.

You're definitely not open to banter if you think this is bullying / offensive.

JohnWayneswife · 24/03/2025 21:05

It was a throwaway comment with no harm intended, fair enough

But if someone is on the edge about something the slightest thing couid set them off. She's admitted that she overreacted by apologising to you. You've mentioned that you've 'spoken to others ' about this, which to me indicates that she's the mature person.

If you don't want to engage with her fair enough but I think you're being a little harsh just in this scenario.

She could be a complete pain in general but here I think a quick message saying don't worry, I didn't mean to upset you wouldn't go amiss.

Overhaul54 · 24/03/2025 21:21

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 24/03/2025 21:04

You're definitely not open to banter if you think this is bullying / offensive.

Rather depends on how it was said? Fine to a good mate, rude to a big standard colleague.

A jokey comment about how they don’t want us in the staff room or about being stuck in the staffroom for the afternoon is more appropriate.

mrlistersgelfbride · 24/03/2025 22:11

She sounds a drama queen but then again it's best not to make patronising jokes at work unless you know the recipient will take it well.

JLou08 · 24/03/2025 22:18

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 24/03/2025 21:04

You're definitely not open to banter if you think this is bullying / offensive.

You definitely lack some comprehension skills if that's what you took from my post.

sandyhappypeople · 25/03/2025 00:33

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 24/03/2025 21:04

You're definitely not open to banter if you think this is bullying / offensive.

Banter is only banter if both people are happy to have the piss taken out of them, it is very much a consensual thing, normally between people who know each other well enough to know that it will not cause offence and it will be taken in the lighthearted way they intended.

If one person doesn't like the piss being taken out of them, is rather sensitive and gets upset quite a lot, then laughing at them and making a joke at their expense is basically bullying. As is going round afterwards and telling everyone all about what happened and getting them to agree how sensitive she is, she obviously couldn't wait to gossip about 'sulky susan running off crying again'.. absolutely no need to trash the woman even more.

It all goes very much against the bullshit in the OP about "apologising even when she is wrong to keep the peace" .. that must only apply to people that OP actually likes.

HelenWheels · 25/03/2025 05:22

i disagree that sorry i upset you is passive aggressive

if you say sorry that you were upset by my behaviour

now that is passive aggressive and antagonising

sweetpickle2 · 25/03/2025 07:02

HelenWheels · 25/03/2025 05:22

i disagree that sorry i upset you is passive aggressive

if you say sorry that you were upset by my behaviour

now that is passive aggressive and antagonising

Nobody is saying “sorry I upset you” is passive aggressive, rather “sorry IF I upset you” is. There’s no ifs about it, they’re upset.

I also think your second one is fine. Change “that” for “if” and it’s pass agg again.

HelenWheels · 25/03/2025 07:46

sweetpickle2 · 25/03/2025 07:02

Nobody is saying “sorry I upset you” is passive aggressive, rather “sorry IF I upset you” is. There’s no ifs about it, they’re upset.

I also think your second one is fine. Change “that” for “if” and it’s pass agg again.

all a bit subjective

Calliopespa · 25/03/2025 07:50

HelenWheels · 25/03/2025 07:46

all a bit subjective

It’s all better than zero apology as far as I’m concerned .

Apologies have perversely come to be seen as a sign of weakness; yet seeing how hard some people find it to give them, I think that’s nonsense.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 25/03/2025 09:33

Honestly, there are so many sensitive wet wipes on here. They must have HR on speed dial.

BrandonFlowersEyesWithEyeliner · 25/03/2025 09:58

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 25/03/2025 09:33

Honestly, there are so many sensitive wet wipes on here. They must have HR on speed dial.

You're absolutely correct , perfect summary!

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