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To think the level of inconsideration around is staggering?

282 replies

CoralCrab · 21/03/2025 19:13

It feels like people have become more self-absorbed and less aware of how their actions affect others. Whether it’s blasting music in public, not cleaning up after themselves, ignoring basic etiquette, or just a general lack of courtesy, I’m constantly noticing behaviour that seems thoughtless at best and outright rude at worst.

I don’t know if this has always been the case and I’m just more aware of it now or if people really have become more inconsiderate over time. AIBU to think that basic respect and awareness of others are disappearing? Or is this just normal and I need to stop expecting better?

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RainbowBrite1 · 23/03/2025 19:58

I live on a farm some horrible man came and emptied the contents of his transit van onto my farm entrance in full view of the road and my house.
during the day just before I was going on the school run. Unlucky for him I saw as he drove off what he’d done and got his registration and a photo of his van. The farm track dips down so he didn’t see me driving up. I do hope he’s found and prosecuted. Dirty pig

BrillantBriony · 23/03/2025 20:03

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this one, but people abruptly stopping centre on a pavement no thought or awareness of people behind them, people having to manoeuvre around them.

Flowerpower456 · 23/03/2025 20:05

I have definitely noticed a change in people’s level of compassion and general politeness. Very often I feel taken back when out in public by people’s self absorbed behaviour. It’s very sad and worrying .

the self entitlement is sickening . God forbid anyone be offended by anything but equally no one else’s needs or wants matter at the same time.

though I wouldn’t say it is one particular age group, I’ve noticed it across the board.

shockeditellyou · 23/03/2025 21:08

CheeryOtter · 23/03/2025 19:44

My baby DD was recently in hospital. The complete lack of regard of other parents was disgraceful. Talking loudly late at night, video calling and banging around with no consideration of ill children and exhausted parents trying to rest. It was really unbearable. Their toddlers were less disruptive.

This pisses me off, it’s shit ward staffing. Patients are there to recover, and you can’t do that with constant noice.

ConstructionTime · 23/03/2025 21:30

carrotsandtomatoes · 22/03/2025 14:49

I remember people doing this is the 80s so nothing new

The devices have become much louder, due to technologic advances, and much cheaper, too. You don't need a real ghettoblaster anymore, either. Last week I encountered a family where a child held a portable speaker; they are smaller than a handbag. That's what they find acceptable to use when walking into town and inflict their music taste on everyone.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 23/03/2025 21:32

People putting makeup on, plucking hairs & brushing their hair on the train just because they can't be bothered to get up early and leave the house well groomed.
It's selfish, especially sat at a table on a packed train.

ThistleTits · 23/03/2025 21:34

@CoralCrab Total like of empathy for anyone. Self entitled brats.

528htz · 23/03/2025 21:36

I was walking my friend's dog this afternoon and the route I took was taken over by feral youths on those small motorbikes. Really loud noise, flying around everywhere. They sped past me and went into the children's play park and started tearing that up. Same area, two scruffy looking horses stuck in a tatty field which was full of rubbish. An old man there owns a caravan and we sometimes see him doing work on his patch where it is. The caravan is now all smashed up. Me and dh grimly wondered if the yobs had done him in and he was still in the caravan. I don't want to have these thoughts or see these things or worry about the poor horses and the wildlife. I want things not to be so grim and degraded. I don't want to go out unless it's a rainy Monday and nobody else is around. I'm not doing that dog walk route again as it's so damn depressing.

ConstructionTime · 23/03/2025 21:44

Lovelynames123 · 22/03/2025 16:59

People are rude, and entitled, and inconsiderate. I had some kids knock over an artificial tree in my cafe the other day. The parents looked at me and laughed, did say sorry. I told them it wasn't a play area and the kids shouldn't be running round. They were all, well we said sorry. I reiterated that they shouldn't be running around and I'd appreciate they stay seated. They left shortly afterwards, no doubt thinking I'm an awful ogre and I'm the unreasonable one!

I've also had to ask a regular customer to desist from using his phone. Loud, sweary conversations disrupting other people.

This is on top of having to put signs up saying customers can't eat their own food on our premises. I honestly don't know what people are thinking these days!

That you make sure your customers behave appropriately will no doubt be a positive sign in the eyes of other other customers.

I think some of the reason why people behave so badly is the lack of social control.
On busses and trains used to be more conductors and staff; now few people want to take that job because people are so rude and aggressive when they remind them of the rules.
In coffee shops and restaurants, businesses fear the wrath of the feedback in google and TripAdvisor.

It could be changed if transport companies both improved their technical / organizational problems and also enforced stronger rules, and then would back up their staff when the customers become angry. That means always three people as conductors, not a lonely one, and reiterating that the journey is meant to be pleasant for everyone, so please reign in the noise and put your trash in the bin and don't let your kids use the train as jungle gym.

In restaurants, there will be enough people who are annoyed about the bad behaviour of fellow guests, and if they back up their staff to deal with disruptors, either the inconsiderate folk will gradually change their ways or / and other potential customers who stayed at home due to them will return.

I saw online feedback for a coffee shop with comments like: "The owner did not let me play videos loudly and asked me to turn them down or leave; rude person" (😅) / "I sat on the bench under the sign "no laptops here" but wanted to stay because it was a sunny spot; the owner asked me to use the designated area or to leave, what a joyless experience" and I thought, that is a place I should visit.

Tiredalwaystired · 23/03/2025 21:47

528htz · 21/03/2025 19:52

I think many people have really low personal standards now and it's reflected in their poor behaviors. They literally don't give a toss. Loud, brash, self absorbed, they treat the environment as though it's their personal playpen. I feel sorry for the wildlife and other people who are more sensible and care about how they conduct themselves. It's difficult to go out now because we're so overcrowded and an overcrowded place full of feral people isn't good. Just leads to so much stress. You can't behave like that in an overcrowded country.

The litter as well. So much litter. We're turning into a rubbish dump. Again, the wildlife suffer. We drove over the moors the other day. An area of outstanding beauty. Three dead sheep by the side of the road (speeding drivers) and so much litter. Felt like bloody crying. There's no escape from the environmental harm. I wish I could track the litter people down via DNA and make them bloody eat it.

Sorry, for sounding clueless but city dweller here. What is the etiquette with roadkill? Genuinely have no idea!

TitusMoan · 23/03/2025 21:53

Took a relative to A&E recently . Large, overcrowded department in SE England. There was a huge TV installed in the waiting area blasting out BBC1. It stayed on all evening. Maybe it’s to distract people away from complaining about the wait, but there were some ill, distressed and very old people in there and I thought it was totally disrespectful and inappropriate. Someone in the hospital trust must have thought it was a good idea though, and then authorised the money to put it there. I should have made a formal complaint.

ConstructionTime · 23/03/2025 22:11

taxguru · 23/03/2025 15:52

Again, nail on the head. We've got a couple of generations who know their rights, think they're important, and don't have any respect for authority nor their responsibilities. It's the "me me me" generations.

And yes, starts at school with the youngest of kids being led the lie that they can be what they want to be, so they grow up with warped ideas and when it turns out (for the 99%) that they can't actually be what they want to be and have to compromise, they can't accept it and spiral into a decline of "woe is me".

I notice a weird development with small kids, both on foot and with scooters. When they are toddlers, of course I walk around them and am careful.

But I realize I have to move out of the way of older kids (4-8yrs), too, because they don't look where they are going or are just used to everyone making space for them.
There is no cutoff point at which the parents start to teach them to become aware of their surroundings. You just to hear parents of small kids who ran criss-cross in a busy place (public buildings, bus stations, restaurants etc) tell them: "watch where you are going; there are other people here, too". That's how they learn to become more aware.

Now I never hear this anymore, they grow up and still walk and run around totally oblivious. I've started to not move out of the way of older kids when they don't care; mostly at the last minute they will divert. This is not about oncoming foot traffic but just children running zig-zag / playing without looking.

Kids taking scooters into shops and places is also dangerous, that's where mobility-impaired people don't expect anyone to scoot by and they could be hurt.

At least once I did hear a mother tell her children that they cannot take the scooter into the shop and she will carry them, and explain to them that it's not allowed (kids 3 years old, so it was her responsibility). That was a nice surprise.

ConstructionTime · 23/03/2025 22:12

....used to hear, not "just to hear"

528htz · 23/03/2025 22:24

Tiredalwaystired · 23/03/2025 21:47

Sorry, for sounding clueless but city dweller here. What is the etiquette with roadkill? Genuinely have no idea!

People just drag them to the side of the road onto the grass and leave them there. I don't know what happens if they're still alive, but badly injured. Sometimes they're just left to decompose and slowly turn into a heap of bones and wool. Others are cleared away by the council I think. I always drive slowly when they're wandering about, but you see other people just speeding along. We once saw a motorbiker that was speeding past us then a few minutes later found he'd collided with a sheep and lying in the road. Other motorists had stopped so we just went past. I felt really sick and upset about the sheep tbh.

MissMoan · 23/03/2025 22:26

Yes! I swear people are becoming increasingly obnoxious and entitled.

Whenever someone has a phone conversation on speaker, I am so tempted to loudly say 'Do they [the caller] know they are on speaker and we can all hear what they are saying?'

I also detest needless swearing in public, and people who leisurely cross the road in front of oncoming cars without any courtesy for anyone else.
I swear there are a lot of people out to ruin other people's day!

BrandonFlowersEyesWithEyeliner · 23/03/2025 22:28

Also, another point is "perfect parenting" - I think some people are genuinely terrified that they are going to be reported to social services if they were to snap at their child and say "get out of that dangerous hole, NOW!"

And the whole smug, look how "in the know" I am about new age parenting, "Tilly, Tilly sweetheart, I know you've put your fingers inside Sammy's eyeballs and have almost gauged them out, but we need to regulate ourselves don't we sweetheart? Is it ok if we think about removing our fingers now ? I can give you a squishy bouncy ball that looks like an eyeball to play with as an alternative? Oh please don't cry Tilly. I'll ask Sammy's mum if she doesn't mind if you remove just one eyeball then ?"

It's like new age parents are trying to out- "2025" each other.

Love and firm boundaries are needed. But the boundaries just seems to be forgotten (because that's the hard part to do isn't it - means consistency and challenges) then we wonder why Tilly turns out to be diagnosed with personality disorders age 16 and can't cope with the real world.

SnoopyPajamas · 23/03/2025 22:35

Yes. Twattery is at a bit of an all-time high

ConstructionTime · 23/03/2025 22:40

528htz · 23/03/2025 21:36

I was walking my friend's dog this afternoon and the route I took was taken over by feral youths on those small motorbikes. Really loud noise, flying around everywhere. They sped past me and went into the children's play park and started tearing that up. Same area, two scruffy looking horses stuck in a tatty field which was full of rubbish. An old man there owns a caravan and we sometimes see him doing work on his patch where it is. The caravan is now all smashed up. Me and dh grimly wondered if the yobs had done him in and he was still in the caravan. I don't want to have these thoughts or see these things or worry about the poor horses and the wildlife. I want things not to be so grim and degraded. I don't want to go out unless it's a rainy Monday and nobody else is around. I'm not doing that dog walk route again as it's so damn depressing.

Do you think it's possible to write to your local government / council to notify them and ask how can the play park be made secure, and how can motorbikes kept out of pedestrian / nature roads?

No-one has time to write about everything that's enraging but maybe if everyone took one thing per week or per month where they give polite and constructive feedback to a place, things could improve. You can use a new mail address and made up name to protect yourself if necessary; as long as the text is factual it shouldn't be a problem. You could be any customer or resident, it is not about the name but the topic in your message which stays the same.

This feedback would be a counterweight to the behaviour of the bad customers, so the companies and councils can't say: see, no-one minds if there is Peppa Pig played at 100 decibel, because there is written proof against it.

Lovehascomeandgone · 23/03/2025 22:46

I can’t get over people playing programmes, videos, music or otherwise on loud speaker with no headphones. Also people having a chat with other person on full volume on loudspeaker. I mean wtf, I don’t want to hear your conversation or what you are watching or listening to.

528htz · 23/03/2025 22:47

ConstructionTime · 23/03/2025 22:40

Do you think it's possible to write to your local government / council to notify them and ask how can the play park be made secure, and how can motorbikes kept out of pedestrian / nature roads?

No-one has time to write about everything that's enraging but maybe if everyone took one thing per week or per month where they give polite and constructive feedback to a place, things could improve. You can use a new mail address and made up name to protect yourself if necessary; as long as the text is factual it shouldn't be a problem. You could be any customer or resident, it is not about the name but the topic in your message which stays the same.

This feedback would be a counterweight to the behaviour of the bad customers, so the companies and councils can't say: see, no-one minds if there is Peppa Pig played at 100 decibel, because there is written proof against it.

Yes, the woodland tracks are a risk because there are so many dog walkers in that area and children. The council are aware because I've seen council warden vans patrolling the area. The police permanently confiscated quad bikes from yobs in another area, so it can be done. I can report it. Dh says bollards won't stop them from accessing places because these bikes are so small. They're very small motorbikes, like trail bikes I think they're called.

Isinglass20 · 23/03/2025 22:57

MsNevermore

Probably influenced by Trump and his gang. That’s the threat to’take over’ Canada, Greenland, Panama in other words’invade’ - every dictator for himself 😡

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 23/03/2025 22:59

My adult dc and I were discussing this very topic last week. Selfishness and thoughtless behaviour seems to be everywhere and all age groups.

I particularly noticed that loud swearing in public spaces by older men seems especially common lately, ignoring if young ears are nearby.

Sad.

BrandonFlowersEyesWithEyeliner · 23/03/2025 23:03

Isinglass20 · 23/03/2025 22:57

MsNevermore

Probably influenced by Trump and his gang. That’s the threat to’take over’ Canada, Greenland, Panama in other words’invade’ - every dictator for himself 😡

Sadly, as much as I despise Trump and his ideas, I think it's more of a backlash for left wing liberalism gone completely unchecked for the last decade. The left have gotten so aggressive - anyone who dares challenge the blue haired narrative is just called shameful offensive names to shut them up. That's as bad as being a right wing loon. It's just your target is the opposite

AnnabelC · 23/03/2025 23:12

user1497787065 · 22/03/2025 11:12

I live rurally and some of the lanes around our village are single lane so when you meet another car it means one of you has to reverse to a passing place to allow the other to pass. I am finding that fewer and fewer people are happy to reverse and will just sit and wait for me to reverse to allow them compass even if I have 25metres to reverse and they have five. It infuriates me. Also people just letting doors go in your face rather than holding them for a few seconds.

This happened to me yesterday. A huge 4 x 4 had a cars length to reverse to a passing place where I had about 5 car lengths to reverse to a passing place. She wouldn’t move so I did.

528htz · 23/03/2025 23:16

AnnabelC · 23/03/2025 23:12

This happened to me yesterday. A huge 4 x 4 had a cars length to reverse to a passing place where I had about 5 car lengths to reverse to a passing place. She wouldn’t move so I did.

I find most 4x4 drivers actually struggle to drive them and park them and reverse them 😂