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To think the level of inconsideration around is staggering?

282 replies

CoralCrab · 21/03/2025 19:13

It feels like people have become more self-absorbed and less aware of how their actions affect others. Whether it’s blasting music in public, not cleaning up after themselves, ignoring basic etiquette, or just a general lack of courtesy, I’m constantly noticing behaviour that seems thoughtless at best and outright rude at worst.

I don’t know if this has always been the case and I’m just more aware of it now or if people really have become more inconsiderate over time. AIBU to think that basic respect and awareness of others are disappearing? Or is this just normal and I need to stop expecting better?

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LookingAtMyBhunas · 23/03/2025 15:58

On the train once after the longest day of my life a man was scrolling through his phone on the packed rush hour journey on FULL VOLUME. It was TikTok reels so just a constant stream of only the beginnings of videos before he skipped to the next.

I politely asked him to turn it down or put headphones in and he sucked his teeth at me, said 'nah man' and carried on.

Well, dear reader, I had had enough. I was (trying to at least) read my Kindle at the time so I just started shouting out my book. As in - "THE MOSS UNDERFOOT BENT SLIGHTLY UNDER HER WEIGHT AS SHE PICKED HER WAY ACROSS THE FOREST FLOOR. THE LIGHT HAD BEGUN TO FADE AND A MILKY DUSK HUE HAD STARTED TO FORM ALL AROUND HER".

I must have looked absolutely mad but tbf he did tut and turn it off 😃

Ddakji · 23/03/2025 16:01

LookingAtMyBhunas · 23/03/2025 15:58

On the train once after the longest day of my life a man was scrolling through his phone on the packed rush hour journey on FULL VOLUME. It was TikTok reels so just a constant stream of only the beginnings of videos before he skipped to the next.

I politely asked him to turn it down or put headphones in and he sucked his teeth at me, said 'nah man' and carried on.

Well, dear reader, I had had enough. I was (trying to at least) read my Kindle at the time so I just started shouting out my book. As in - "THE MOSS UNDERFOOT BENT SLIGHTLY UNDER HER WEIGHT AS SHE PICKED HER WAY ACROSS THE FOREST FLOOR. THE LIGHT HAD BEGUN TO FADE AND A MILKY DUSK HUE HAD STARTED TO FORM ALL AROUND HER".

I must have looked absolutely mad but tbf he did tut and turn it off 😃

Brilliant!

Annascaul · 23/03/2025 16:17

LookingAtMyBhunas · 23/03/2025 15:58

On the train once after the longest day of my life a man was scrolling through his phone on the packed rush hour journey on FULL VOLUME. It was TikTok reels so just a constant stream of only the beginnings of videos before he skipped to the next.

I politely asked him to turn it down or put headphones in and he sucked his teeth at me, said 'nah man' and carried on.

Well, dear reader, I had had enough. I was (trying to at least) read my Kindle at the time so I just started shouting out my book. As in - "THE MOSS UNDERFOOT BENT SLIGHTLY UNDER HER WEIGHT AS SHE PICKED HER WAY ACROSS THE FOREST FLOOR. THE LIGHT HAD BEGUN TO FADE AND A MILKY DUSK HUE HAD STARTED TO FORM ALL AROUND HER".

I must have looked absolutely mad but tbf he did tut and turn it off 😃

You’re a legend 😁

Panterusblackish · 23/03/2025 16:26

NeelyOHara1 · 21/03/2025 19:50

An unintended fallout of non-judgementalism gaining traction in the 90's?

Totally agree. Society needs to judge a lot harder

Cattery · 23/03/2025 16:31

Go where you want, do what you want and fuck everyone else. Entitled. Selfish. Piss takers.

SomethingBetterChange · 23/03/2025 16:48

taxguru · 23/03/2025 15:56

@SomethingBetterChange

Parents have to be responsible for something surely?

Trouble is we're onto the second or third generation of feckless parents who weren't taught respect and values themselves, so can't teach it to their children as they're simply oblivious to previous social "norms". It gets worse with each generation. Lawlessness, lack of respect, loss of morality, general fecklessnes and an increase in the underclass are dragging us down to the level of a third world hell hole. Basically everything that Britain stood for for decades/centuries has gone down the shitter in just 2 or 3 generations. Nice one!

I completely agree with you.

Unfortunately, expecting schools to be the answer when we've already taken over so many parenting tasks just isn't realistic.

Cattery · 23/03/2025 16:58

taxguru · 23/03/2025 15:56

@SomethingBetterChange

Parents have to be responsible for something surely?

Trouble is we're onto the second or third generation of feckless parents who weren't taught respect and values themselves, so can't teach it to their children as they're simply oblivious to previous social "norms". It gets worse with each generation. Lawlessness, lack of respect, loss of morality, general fecklessnes and an increase in the underclass are dragging us down to the level of a third world hell hole. Basically everything that Britain stood for for decades/centuries has gone down the shitter in just 2 or 3 generations. Nice one!

100 per cent

ChiliFiend · 23/03/2025 17:32

VWT5 · 23/03/2025 12:03

I’m honestly noticing a worsening change in behaviour literally at every 6 month interval.

In the last 48 hours alone - Brits, in a nice destination holiday hotel, man with baby and lit cigarette - in the swimming pool, another man throws his used cigarette into the pool, lady 60’s - vaping next to me in indoor restaurant (illegal)….in the space of a single hour.

Lost for words really.

Throwing their cigarettes into the pool? Wtf

GiveDogBone · 23/03/2025 18:10

Whilst it was on an upward trajectory beforehand (the growth of the entitled), it has reached epidemic (if you pardon the pun) proportions since Covid. People decided having a drink in a bar or going to a party was more important than other people’s lives.

It’s quite easy to act selfishly on the minor points after that.

AIBU5 · 23/03/2025 18:15

CoralCrab · 21/03/2025 19:13

It feels like people have become more self-absorbed and less aware of how their actions affect others. Whether it’s blasting music in public, not cleaning up after themselves, ignoring basic etiquette, or just a general lack of courtesy, I’m constantly noticing behaviour that seems thoughtless at best and outright rude at worst.

I don’t know if this has always been the case and I’m just more aware of it now or if people really have become more inconsiderate over time. AIBU to think that basic respect and awareness of others are disappearing? Or is this just normal and I need to stop expecting better?

Yes, and the sense of entitlement. Gosh, it's killing me sometimes. Dog eats dog

asrl78 · 23/03/2025 18:49

I completely agree and as my family live in NW England whereas I live in Sussex, I think the general thoughtlessness is worse in SE England. Whenever I go for a walk in one of the national parks in the north e.g. Snowdonia, the Lakes or the Dales, even on a sunny weekend in summer, people on the footpaths, with or without dogs, are generally considerate. They seem to be aware of their surroundings and there is good negotiation between walkers if one or the other needs to give way. Dogs are under control. In SE England dog walkers behave like a gas, they fill any space they are in. Earlier today walking on a footpath in the local park heading home, path is a good four meters wide, ahead of me two groups of dog walkers stopped across the whole path fawning over each others dogs, everyone else has to walk on the grass to get past. It is things like that which individually are trivial, but when they happen multiple times a day every day they chip chip chip at your tolerance and just piss me off because it is all so unnecessary with even a basic level of thought. It has got way worse since the pandemic and the social isolation that came with it, the civility of people has become badly eroded and if anyone dare call it out they risk threats of violence.

Don't get me started on the tossers who play music/videos speaker calls on their phone out loud on public transport.

StarkleLittleTwink · 23/03/2025 18:50

I couldn’t agree more 528 and fur fangs. Some people disgust me with their loud, moronic, brash and selfish behaviour. Don’t dare look at them either, otherwise questions like “ have you got a problem?” get hurled. I’ve never witnessed such entitled and rude behaviour as I see in some people these days; and don’t even mention driving habits…

YourArtfulPlayer · 23/03/2025 18:53

Ironically, I was saying to someone today I’m more than happy just being in my little bubble, keeping away from things because you cannot guarantee you’ll enjoy doing anything anymore due to grade a entitled idiots.

I hate concerts/festivals as I don’t want to watch live music through someone’s camera.

Despise things like Harry Potter world as you cannot get near anything due to selfie takers and likely barged out the way if in shot.

Eating in restaurants you’ll either have a kid watching an IPad at full blast or a loud gaggle of chavs.

If you sit in a park, some melon will be taking a call on loud speaker or playing music.

Go to the cinema some douche canoe will chat all the way through it.

Even going to the supermarket, you’ll need to wade through 300 unruly children, people with no concept of personal space and someone who insists on leaving their trolley mid aisle.

It’s no wonder people are now introverts with anxiety issues.

diagnosisdisco · 23/03/2025 18:53

Today, a trip to the coast and a shared portion of chips which should have been delightful, except the kid on the table behind us was feral and armed with a fishing rod which her parents had no concern for her waving around wildly. Nearly took my eye out. Then we walked along the harbour wall which accommodates 4 people wide... family of four walking towards us (2 of us), none of them moved over... where did they expect us to go? Jump in the sea? When we stopped and waited they acted like we were inconsiderate obstacles.....

Don't get me started on patients. I spend a lot of time in waiting rooms or in day units and my observation is that most patients are self absorbed arseholes. I get that people aren't well, but neither am I and I don't want to hear you being rude to the receptionist, then there is what I suppose is the performance parenting version of being ill where they carry on like all of the rest of the patients only rocked up to see and hear them talk loudly about how sick they are and how many tablets they take, or they do loud facetimes or facebook lives to update the world on their status....
The funny thing is that in the history of all the petformance sickness I have observed I've never really observed anyone that sick..... a woman was what I can only describe as bragging the other day that she takes 8 tablets a day.... big swoop eye around the waiting room to see how impressed we all are... "lord I'm like a box of smarties!!!!".... no you aren't love. Shut up and let the rest of us wallow in feeling a bit shit with a tiny bit of peace forgodsakes.... I know I'm turning into a cantankerous old bag but why can't people just be a little bit more contained....

Drummergirl1971 · 23/03/2025 18:57

Spot on. I really noticed it when I went to Dublin & America (years ago), where people display the common courtesy we used to enjoy here years ago

Chocolatebubble · 23/03/2025 19:06

I agree… I work on a maternity ward and the amount of people .. mum’s and their visitors not only need to have phones on loud speaker .. all times of day and night.. but same if they watching something. Could not care a less about anyone else!!

GingerPaste · 23/03/2025 19:30

LookingAtMyBhunas · 23/03/2025 15:58

On the train once after the longest day of my life a man was scrolling through his phone on the packed rush hour journey on FULL VOLUME. It was TikTok reels so just a constant stream of only the beginnings of videos before he skipped to the next.

I politely asked him to turn it down or put headphones in and he sucked his teeth at me, said 'nah man' and carried on.

Well, dear reader, I had had enough. I was (trying to at least) read my Kindle at the time so I just started shouting out my book. As in - "THE MOSS UNDERFOOT BENT SLIGHTLY UNDER HER WEIGHT AS SHE PICKED HER WAY ACROSS THE FOREST FLOOR. THE LIGHT HAD BEGUN TO FADE AND A MILKY DUSK HUE HAD STARTED TO FORM ALL AROUND HER".

I must have looked absolutely mad but tbf he did tut and turn it off 😃

I love this. Most people need a taste of their own medicine!!

AnonbecauseIamlackinginspiration · 23/03/2025 19:32

Absolutely 100%. I paid out to a woman for bumping her car the other week, she was insanely grateful and it was all very civilised as we were both like minded but bashing peoples cars and driving away with no note is now the norm. I’ll give you another recent example;
Walking my very poorly (now deceased) in a cemetery which has a dog protection order on it, so strictly leads only. My dog had a yellow bandana saying ‘injured’
man comes in let’s two cockerpoos off the lead (sorry but it’s ALWAYS cockerpoo owners).
They come running over. I ask him to call them back, he ignores me 3 times.
Eventually he says ‘I can’t call them back, I’m picking up poo’
I said ‘you can call them back and pick up poo’
he said - what’s the problem, are you an enforcement officer’
I say, no but that’s irrelevant, it’s a cemetery, and lead only.
him ‘what’s wrong with your dog’
me - ‘again irrelevant but he’s bloody dying for gods sake, call your dog backs, he’s distressed’
’theres no need to get angry, you sound aggressive’
i won’t go into the rest of the conversation but in my menopausal and distressed i have him what for but he continued to accuse me and gas light me until I left.
just one example of many, when he hears my dog is dying, completely lacking in empathy.
I honestly despair and it’s not a one off!

DBSFstupid · 23/03/2025 19:36

NeelyOHara1 · 21/03/2025 19:50

An unintended fallout of non-judgementalism gaining traction in the 90's?

Exactly this. Lazy parenting and never saying no or setting any boundaries. Lacking discipline or teaching respect at home or in the School and a loss of our cultural identity in many areas, bending over backwards to appease everyone else. We have to pick up the pieces of this crap in the workplace.

TorroFerney · 23/03/2025 19:37

Kurokurosuke · 22/03/2025 01:13

Ahhh the 80s

Ha ha, I would have been mesmerised if someone had come into a park with a ghetto blaster. I’m not sure that poster knows what one is !

CyanMaker · 23/03/2025 19:43

The last time my daughter and I were out to lunch there was a family get together in the room next to ours. We had just gotten our lunch when a child at the get together started throwing a tantrum.The screaming got worse and worse and continued the whole time we were there. There's no excuse for those people to have let that go on. Even if it didn't bother them they could have had some consideration for others. Just an example of people being in their own self absorbed world as is so common nowadays.

CheeryOtter · 23/03/2025 19:44

My baby DD was recently in hospital. The complete lack of regard of other parents was disgraceful. Talking loudly late at night, video calling and banging around with no consideration of ill children and exhausted parents trying to rest. It was really unbearable. Their toddlers were less disruptive.

applemash · 23/03/2025 19:46

Because you are now assuming this, your mind looks for reasons to find evidence for it- it's called confirmation bias.

Of course there have always been inconsiderate, selfish people in the world, it's the case all over the world. However, I dont agree that people are becoming worse - humans are humans and we all have selfish thoughts and can behave selfishly at times- every single one of us.

I'll give you some examples of things that have happened to me recently:

I was buying dog food and a couple of dog toys in a pet store a week ago. I realised I couldnt carry it all and so asked for a bag - they were 10p, I had already paid by card and I didnt have cash on me, only a card. The man behind me in the queue immediately said "dont worry love, let me pay for it, it's only 10p. I thanked him and said thats so kind of you. He then realised he didnt have 10p in cash either so he left the store, went out to his car just to get me 10p for a bag. It was only 10p but the thought was so kind and helpful.

I took aforementioned dog on a long walk this morning up the downs, every single person I passed smiled at me and said good morning and I had a lovely chat with quite a few of them. These were complete strangers. It made me feel really happy.

The other day, one of my colleagues was in a minor car prang. One of my colleagues suggested we pool together to get her some flowers and a small present to cheer her up.

Now, of course I could probably list some evidence of selfish things I have seen too but the point is- you will find what you are focusing on, its literally how your brain is wired.

stuckdownahole · 23/03/2025 19:49

ttcat37 · 23/03/2025 10:27

When did it become ok and acceptable in public to play videos with the volume up on your phone, and have conversations on speakerphone? I spent a week in the maternity ward listening to this shit. I felt like I was the only one who didn’t do either of those things.

I was on a train a month ago, not very full. There were a young man and woman, probably half my age, on the other side of the aisle.

The young woman got her phone out and video-called someone, holding the phone about two feet away from her face so that she was speaking well above normal conversational volume. I objected by saying "come on, who makes a phone call like that on a train?". It would not have bothered me if she had the phone to her ear / mouth.

She was quite cross and upset but her partner pointed out that we were in the quiet carriage so she reluctantly stopped arguing but kept whinging audibly to him about being told off.

Ladymeade · 23/03/2025 19:57

Savyonblanket · 21/03/2025 20:03

I think many people are totally self absorbed and don’t realise that :

their bag doesn’t require a seat in a busy train / bus when people want to sit

a disabled / elderly person may need a seat so please look up snd look around you on public transport

that nobody else wants to listen to your music / tic toc habit and that headphones are cheaply available and should be used in all public places

no one wants to hear your domestic issues or business deals in The quiet carriage of the train. Take phone calls elsewhere

that pepper pig is fab for keeping your kid occupied - but no one else in The restaurant want to hear it - so please - sound off or head phones on

that ‘child friendly’ restaurant - doesn’t mean it’s a child free for all or soft play - your little darling running around is both a hazard to the waiting staff carrying hot food and drinks and really annoying to everyone else

that no one else wants to hear them eating in the theatre so please don’t open rustling sweets in the middle of the show

that no one else wants to hear their thoughts during the cinema or theatre or a concert so please sit quietly and talk about it during the interval (adult or child)

an orchestral overture is part of the show so please stop talking the minute it starts

rubbish doesn’t belong on the floor - stuck it in a bin or put it in your pocket or bag until you can find somewhere suitable to put it

not everyone likes dogs - so keep yours on a lead unless you have adequate control and recall and don’t let it run up to other in lead dogs or people ‘it’s friendly’ doesn’t mitigate the need for training

pick up your dog poo and bin it don’t hang it from the tree in a bag or leave it for someone to tread in

saying ‘please and thank you’ costs nothing and makes life sweeter - as does talking to waiting staff and shop staff as human beings and not as servants. Treat others with respect and talk to everyone as you would wish to be spoken to

BASIC MANNERS really matter!

i know I will sound like a grumpy old woman - I’m mid 40’s but I do find that the world has changed a lot over the last couple of decades and become a very self centred place and many are keen on asserting their perceived individual rights rather than also considering their responsibilities to make society work for everyone.

a little consideration in many public situations go a very long way - but are sorely lacking in the uk at the moment.

Found myself nodding at all of these... Would add two examples that really piss me off:
People scrolling on their phones at the gym, hogging machines while they are at it (I end up asking them if I can "work in with them" which is my hopefully polite way of saying "you're hogging this bit of kit" without saying it (& poss getting a snarky response)
People driving up my chuff when I am complying with the speed limit (as though it doesn't apply to them or they're hoping that they can push me to go faster)

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