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To think the level of inconsideration around is staggering?

282 replies

CoralCrab · 21/03/2025 19:13

It feels like people have become more self-absorbed and less aware of how their actions affect others. Whether it’s blasting music in public, not cleaning up after themselves, ignoring basic etiquette, or just a general lack of courtesy, I’m constantly noticing behaviour that seems thoughtless at best and outright rude at worst.

I don’t know if this has always been the case and I’m just more aware of it now or if people really have become more inconsiderate over time. AIBU to think that basic respect and awareness of others are disappearing? Or is this just normal and I need to stop expecting better?

OP posts:
isitspringyet · 22/03/2025 15:00

Waiting at pedestrian crossings and regularly see drivers speed up to jump amber lights.
Shoppers who can’t be bothered to return their trolley and dump near their car as they can’t be arsed to walk to return it. (One has rolled into my car causing a dent) And the inconsiderate lot who lack any manners or self awareness and inflict the shit on their devices on everyone else. When asking parent on a late departure flight if they could turn down the volume as we’d like to sleep met with a mouthful. Are there no headphones children can wear?

jellyfishperiwinkle · 22/03/2025 15:04

It's easy to moan and look for only the negatives. I see a lot of kindness, tolerance and politeness every day which often goes unnoticed.

528htz · 22/03/2025 15:43

isitspringyet · 22/03/2025 15:00

Waiting at pedestrian crossings and regularly see drivers speed up to jump amber lights.
Shoppers who can’t be bothered to return their trolley and dump near their car as they can’t be arsed to walk to return it. (One has rolled into my car causing a dent) And the inconsiderate lot who lack any manners or self awareness and inflict the shit on their devices on everyone else. When asking parent on a late departure flight if they could turn down the volume as we’d like to sleep met with a mouthful. Are there no headphones children can wear?

I think it's mainly because they tend to be Bluetooth now and there's no port to plug them in. Bluetooth headphones are easily lost (the small in ear ones) and the headphones are more expensive than plug in ones. Parents don't want to buy their offspring these devices in case they lose them so just rely on blasting the pad/phone instead.

HowardTJMoon · 22/03/2025 15:54

carrotsandtomatoes · 22/03/2025 14:49

I remember people doing this is the 80s so nothing new

Me too, as well as many of the other "new" problems listed in this thread like people putting their feet up on the seats on trains and busses, tailgating, blocking pavements etc.

Bluevelvetsofa · 22/03/2025 16:07

Mrsfeckwittery · 22/03/2025 13:22

The one that gets me is the slow creep of demands rather than questions with no please or thankyou. It’s like folk have conversations in the same way as they conduct a google search or ask Alexa.
This is particularly noticeable on web forums or Facebook pages e.g.
’name of a decent plumber’ or
’need a joiner quick to fix back door’
Just fuck off!!!!

I agree and it’s usually accompanied by ‘ cheap as possible, I don’t have much money’. Or, ‘ anyone got a bed/cooker/tv/fridge. Needs to be free’

I think that Covid had a lot to do with it and I also think that people have become more and more insistent on their rights, but aren’t prepared to accept the flip side of that, which is their responsibilities.

UnctuousUnicorns · 22/03/2025 16:13

There's nothing new about arseholery. I could cite examples of it going back 40 plus years, and my parents could probably give examples going back sixty plus years. Arseholes have always arseholed, unfortunately. 🤷‍♀️

GellerYeller · 22/03/2025 16:22

I’m sick of inconsiderate parking. Especially people at my workplace actively blocking people in, then huffing about being chased down on the intranet because the lovely reception staff don’t have time to mentally note which car belongs to which parking twat. At least leave a note.
Also men who walk directly into the path of women and expect them to move out of their way.

Eldermilleniallyogii · 22/03/2025 16:23

I agree OP

zingally · 22/03/2025 16:29

BogRollBOGOF · 21/03/2025 19:45

I've just endured an hour of waiting during a child's activity.

Loud Dad was there, but fortunately he was more distracted chatting this week than being in his usual "I Am Parenting" mode broadcasting across the venue, and hyping the toddler into a squeeling frenzy.

Meanwhile some numpty let their child bring a remote control car and have that skittering across the floor as people pass through to different zones of the building.

Then the obligatory tablet, tonight being every bloody sound effect on a computer game being audible across the room at least 10m away.

The videos playing behind me almost seemed reasonable as they were quiet enough to only be heard within a couple of metres.

I think the staff have given up. About 10 years ago they were pretty hot on young children being allowed to roam around and be a nuisence. They certainly wouldn't have tolerated remote control cars then!

There's only about 8 chair/ table clusters there!

But hey, at least no 30min speaker phone chats tonight.

Your description of "Loud Dad" made me chuckle.

A couple of years ago, I used to stop off at a local McDonalds every Tuesday evening for an hour or so while a kid was at an activity, but it wasn't worth going home and coming back.
After a while I started to notice a dad with a son of about 9 and a toddler daughter. Like your "Loud Dad", this man would spend the time loudly broadcasting his parenting to the entire restaurant. It was so bizarre I started to pay more attention... There was always another man with him. But this man never spoke to the children, just sat on the next table playing with his phone and occasionally glancing up at the threesome.
But then one week I was a bit earlier than usual... And noticed the two children being bought in by a middle aged woman. She just looked too old to be mum, and the relationship was off... Then the dad and random other man appeared, and I realised he was on supervised visitation. This woman and random man were social workers of some variety. Random man "supervised" and the woman went out and sat in her car. Presumably waiting to take the children home again.

Toddler girl always seemed to be having a nice time, but older boy was monosyllabic and looking mortified throughout. I ended up feeling quite sorry for him, while his dad shouted his "LOOK AT MY PARENTING!" for all to hear.

My own schedule changed not long after, but I do find myself thinking of those two children sometimes, and hoping they're okay.

HomeBodyClub · 22/03/2025 16:33

I’ve noticed it and I’ve started to do it back because I’ve had enough of shit behaviour.

Someone almost knocked me over by barging past me on Wednesday so I called her an ignorant cunt.

People force their way in front of me in queues and act like I am invisible so I will call them out.
Maybe it’s because I’m mid 30s now and lost my last fuck I had to give.

Gettingbysomehow · 22/03/2025 16:36

I used to live on the South Downs national park and all the road verges throughout the park were covered in rubbish people chuck out of their car windows. People have picnics and just leave all their shit behind. I cannot understand why so many people want to destroy a beautiful local area like that.
One year a 25 year old skeleton was found in a wood near my home, turned out to be suicide. The police cut all the trees and wildlife habitats down I suppose to look for clues there weren't any after 25 years, and that wood is now just a rubbish strewn wasteland. It's tragic.

PlumKetchup · 22/03/2025 16:37

I think selfishness and entitlement has got worse in recent years. I live in a village with narrow roads and people regularly park on pavements, blocking them for people with prams/pushchairs/wheelchairs. It's become a thing for a significant minority to walk their dogs off leads through the village (illegal btw) and there have been several near misses with cars and also attacks on other dogs. Same in surrounding fields with lambs. Also dog poo everywhere, which is really grim.

Gettingbysomehow · 22/03/2025 16:38

GellerYeller · 22/03/2025 16:22

I’m sick of inconsiderate parking. Especially people at my workplace actively blocking people in, then huffing about being chased down on the intranet because the lovely reception staff don’t have time to mentally note which car belongs to which parking twat. At least leave a note.
Also men who walk directly into the path of women and expect them to move out of their way.

A group of men tried to do that to me once I shouted LOOK OUT at the top of my lungs as they were about to bear down on me and one of them fell into the road. How I laughed.

Cattery · 22/03/2025 16:48

People are basically selfish cunts. I’ve never known it so bad. Truly no one gives a shit. A bloke in a van parked outside my house. He was in the drivers seat eating chicken and chips and dropping the bones out of the window onto the pavement. When he’d finished he wiped his hands on the serviette and dropped that out of the window too. Then he drove off. People with fuck all to do drop their kids to play in our cul de sac. They then create noise and mess for everyone that lives here. They truly do not care less.

WhereIsMyJumper · 22/03/2025 16:50

Haven’t read the full thread but I have a theory.

Pre internet, you used to have to make an effort to be seen as a good person. Having decent moral standing used to mean something. You would have to earn it by being kind and considerate to the people in your immediate vicinity. Your nuclear family and then with your community.

You can earn quick, cheap moral standing now by espousing leftist views on social media platforms.
Oh look, I just posted something woke. Now everyone knows I am a good person. I don’t need to try in real life.

BarneyRonson · 22/03/2025 16:52

It’s a horrible culture where we celebrate being gay instead of celebrate being polite and kind. It’s vitally important to use PC language but not vitally important to be courteous. It’s all gone arse backwards.

Lovelynames123 · 22/03/2025 16:59

People are rude, and entitled, and inconsiderate. I had some kids knock over an artificial tree in my cafe the other day. The parents looked at me and laughed, did say sorry. I told them it wasn't a play area and the kids shouldn't be running round. They were all, well we said sorry. I reiterated that they shouldn't be running around and I'd appreciate they stay seated. They left shortly afterwards, no doubt thinking I'm an awful ogre and I'm the unreasonable one!

I've also had to ask a regular customer to desist from using his phone. Loud, sweary conversations disrupting other people.

This is on top of having to put signs up saying customers can't eat their own food on our premises. I honestly don't know what people are thinking these days!

Slimbear · 22/03/2025 17:06

I think we’ve adopted some stuff from the US so you cannot comment on many things as it’s an ism but in the states people carry guns and you would not shout abuse at a passer by, give the fingers to another motorist, play your ghetto blaster full blast as someone with a gun might be pissed off.
Have lived in the US btw

There is no punishment here for selfish behaviour

JohnTheRevelator · 22/03/2025 17:22

I agree. Sometimes I think it's just me, getting grumpier and less tolerant as I get older,but then I see a thread like this and think maybe its not just me after all! I blame a lot of it on mobile phones and the internet. So many people are so intent on staring at their phones that they just don't notice what is going on outside their little bubble of self-absorption. Just today,I've had 2 people nearly walk straight into me in the high street because they were too busy looking at their phones to watch where they were going. Then they act like it was MY fault,when I was actually looking where I was going! And don't get me started on people who play blaring music out loud in public places.....

Fizbosshoes · 22/03/2025 18:49

I'm often agog at signs at the station eg aggression to station staff won't be tolerated, or
Upskirting is not acceptable and a criminal offence.

The problem is there are only 2 types of response

a)My own and most decent people, being wtf, I don't need a poster to tell me that or
b) the type of person who engages in that behaviour and doesn't read the sign, or thinks it doesn't apply to them

I very much doubt there is anyone in the history of the world who considered being an abusive twat but was put off by a poster. The only hope is that the decent people will be encouraged to call out, or report, such behaviour.

taxguru · 22/03/2025 19:42

Fountofwisdom · 22/03/2025 09:33

It has got far, far worse. The Millennial generation were brought up by parents who mollycoddled them, didn’t teach them any resilience, told them they were wonderful at everything, never criticised their little darlings and taught them to always put themselves first. This was the same era when schools started awarding medals to everyone at sports day, so that there were no winners or losers.

And now those Millennials are becoming parents themselves and bringing up another generation of spoilt, selfish brats. It’s depressing.

I think it’s much worse in big cities. In more rural areas, where you have a sense of community, traditional values of consideration and neighbourliness are much more prevalent. Makes me want to move to the Outer Hebrides and live amongst a civilised community.

Nail on the head. Some of todays teens and twenty somethings simply don't have the "tool box" to navigate pretty normal life and expect everyone and everything around them to accommodate them. Life's not like that. Poor parenting plays a massive role in this!

taxguru · 22/03/2025 19:43

BarneyRonson · 22/03/2025 16:52

It’s a horrible culture where we celebrate being gay instead of celebrate being polite and kind. It’s vitally important to use PC language but not vitally important to be courteous. It’s all gone arse backwards.

Again, nail on the head. We've screwed up what was generations of morality, manners, good behaviour, etc.

Nameychangington · 22/03/2025 19:47

Some young people are entitled snowflakes, but not all. As I said upthread, the only group of people who didn't take up the whole path and force me into the road today, were a group of teenagers.

The ignorant adults are raising/leaving the internet to raise ignorant kids, and decent adults are raising decent kids. As was always the case. I think it's the behaviour of adults which has deteriorated more in recent years.

taxguru · 22/03/2025 19:57

Nameychangington · 22/03/2025 19:47

Some young people are entitled snowflakes, but not all. As I said upthread, the only group of people who didn't take up the whole path and force me into the road today, were a group of teenagers.

The ignorant adults are raising/leaving the internet to raise ignorant kids, and decent adults are raising decent kids. As was always the case. I think it's the behaviour of adults which has deteriorated more in recent years.

I agree, it's definitely across the board. The worst offenders I encounter are older people who won't move into single file on narrow footpaths, older people who can't be arsed to control their dogs (either no lead or those stupid extendable leads), and older people oblivious to those around them, whether driving or dithering in shops, etc. Never any apologies when they finally notice they're being a nuisance either. At least youngsters sometimes say sorry when they get their heads out of their phone and notice they're in the way - oldies never do.

lostintherainyday · 22/03/2025 20:08

Can I add … people in their teens and twenties who use a phone like a walkie talkie.

Instead on holding the phone to their ear and taking at normal volume they talk loudly into the end then hold the mouthpiece to their ear. WHY?

I appreciate that it is in some way an attempt to be accommodating, because they are not putting it on speaker, but it is still bloody annoying because they talk loudly and have the volume turned up.

Why don’t they just use it like a normal phone?