To not pay for an unwanted child?

[Anudawan]

Hypothetical.

it came up at work today.

if the pregnancy was a result of a one night stand, regardless of whether precautions were taken, if the man doesn’t want the pregnancy and the woman decides to continue, should he be able to opt out of child support?

my personal answer and I’m not sure on the nuance (ie do you have be on the birth certificate and thus can claim parental responsibility in order to be compelled to pay maintenance or a dna test to compel the man) my personal answer is no, he cannot or shouldn’t be able to opt out once the child is born. All sex (with a woman of reproductive age) carries the risk of pregnancy, you can lower the risk but never fully remove it. Abstinence is the only way to do that. To do the action you’ve got to be prepared for the consequences. It’s very easy to flippantly say ‘get an abortion’ but for some women that isn’t viable.

Why have you reposted exactly the same thing when I already linked an article explaining that 'stealthing' is legally classified as rape?

If the legs stay closed believe me they wouldn’t be in that predicament. I have three kids from one man. We both consented he is an active father and I would never settle for less ever in my life.

Not just for me but for my kids also I could never put them in a predicament to where I say your dad hasn’t come to get you or he doesn’t want to contribute or anything like that. You literally instilling hatred in the child

So where does this end?

Marital rape wouldn't be a problem if women just didn't get married, right?

Spousal abuse wouldn't happen either if they stayed unmarried?

Maternity discrimination? Simples. Just don't have kids.

Catcalled by a builder? Well, didn't have to walk past a building site did you?

In fact, women could just stay unmarried and never leave the house and they'd never have any problems from men. Get a wfh job and have groceries delivered. See, I just solved the issue of male violence. 😂

I never mentioned stealthing or rape. I mentioned jizzing without consent.

Is that the only way you have ever had sex - missionary! ha ha!

Well done you! And all by not holding men accountable once! Just like everyone on here suggesting men can never be responsible for anything they do.

*their

But the one contraception option men have, is the most accessible, comes with the least side effects and is the only one that prevents STIs

patriarchy really does shield men from the consequences of their actions doesn’t it? Your outrage at basic cause and effect shows that

You’re pressed because I’m stating facts. When people are not ready to become parents you cannot force that. When you get that in your head you will also understand that it affects the child more than anyone. Pick ur partners wisely.

Nope I just don’t open my legs to Tom dick and harry on one night stands and expect them to turn around and become father to my ‘special’ child.

Ok well the point still stands if it’s 40% or 60%

men are clearly the problem, because you’ve not come back on a single other of my points?

look at the portion of single fathers to single mothers and you’ll see who is abandoning their children with greater frequency

Because them mens are whores aren't they?! ha! Tom and Harry be dirty dicks! ha ha! The SEN thread is elsewhere if you wish to discuss your child.

Stating facts yet can’t cite them? Interesting .

the father of my children is my husband who I’ve been married to for 10 years. But thanks for your advice

So children only happen on drunken ONS (of which the woman has had many but not the man) or through marriage with virgins, right?

You literally said 'Nope that is not rape. Rape is penetrating without consent not jizzing without consent.'

You clearly did mention rape.

So you understand the comparison?

Saying that men shouldn't have sex if they don't want to trapped by women who lie about the pill is not holding the women accountable.

Because I’m a women and I want 50%. LOL life doesn’t work like that love. Sorry. You and I cannot force them. If they wanted to they would

You said 'special' child. I assumed that was you saying SEND. How is it vile when you yourself said 'special'?

I will not breed darling. I do not want kids and if you think that is something that will upset me being told that then you are far from the truth. I have a partner chicken so you think that is the thing that would bother me being alone? That is you projecting your fears onto me as an 'insult' that really is a bit lame to be fair.

If I was a bloke in the situation where I found out that a partner had lied about taking the pill and was now expecting me to pay up for 18 years, despite knowing full well I didn't want kids....you can bet your bottom dollar I'd be doing my level best not to give her a penny!

At least we don't have the lunacy of the US where you can prove you're not the father and still be ordered to pay. I mean, imagine finding out your spouse had cheated on you and still being forced to pay!

Jizzing without consent is not rape unless the penetration was not consensual. I have no mentioned rape resulting in pregnancy I have said about jizzing without consent which is not rape.

I've not said they shouldn't have sex. I have said that men shouldn't lie about their fertility as a comparison.

So isn't that so? Should men declare their fertility as women have to? Yes or no? If they do not then they are trapping women if they do not declare before sex I am fertile.

This literally happens. It’s the premise of over turning roe v wade. And why feminists campaigned relentlessly for the right to choose because abortions have only recently (in terms of world history) been made legal and safe?

is it your first day on earth?

I do have a lot to say as I know how to prevent pregnancy and so too does my partner as it is both our responsibility to ensure we have no children. Sorry to break that news to you.

How is having a ONS linked to a child being entitled? Entitled children come from parents of all backgrounds - mostly from those married in my experience. Ruined kids.