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DS was hit in the face by a child at school

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Lifestooshort1542 · 18/03/2025 14:54

AIBU to be feeling quite upset about this? 😢
There was an incident at school where DS (7) and some other children followed a year 6 child to an area of the school field where the year 6 child had gone ‘to cool down’ due to feeling overwhelmed and over stimulated.
DS and others have gone over to see if he’s ok, and this boy has lashed out at DS who was in the firing line and hit him twice across the face.
School rang me and informed me of the incident and said he was ok but quite upset so sat with a teacher. The head was aware and the boy in question is being ‘dealt with’.

Im quite upset by this, Do I just accept this happened and let it go?
WWYD?

OP posts:
APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:22

surreygirl1987 · 18/03/2025 19:00

This. Why on earth was a group of kids following a distressed pupil around? Were they tormenting him? Laughing at him? Trying to wind him up further? Worth considering what we DON'T know in this scenario.

Why on earth is a woman following her distressed husband around? We DONT know the full facts of why he abused her

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:23

WhatNoRaisins · 18/03/2025 19:03

I can imagine 7 year olds being taught about the concept of kindness and how that could mean if someone is alone on the playground and looks sad going and seeing if they are ok. This is why I think if it was known that this boy had this strategy and needed leaving alone that adults should have been keeping an eye on the situation. You can't expect 7 year olds to have that nuance.

Edited

100%. Expecting a 7yo to have the nuance of understanding individual ND children is bonkers.

I also think it’s sad that people are doubting the 7yo’s intentions. My son is a nice boy with nice friends and they’d 100% check to see if someone was ok. In the absence of psychic powers, they would not expect to be hit

Strictly1 · 18/03/2025 22:24

crumblingschools · 18/03/2025 22:14

@APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH if a 10yo hit their 7yo sibling in the face would you call the police?

I think they might! They’re determined to ignore that they’re children.

MidnightMillie · 18/03/2025 22:24

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:12

Obviously not. But I wonder why you have said “I think you need to get to the bottom of whether they genuinely went to see if this child was ok, or to gawp/wind him up further.” If not to justify or excuse it.

Because the OP does need to get to the bottom of it.

Hitting is not ok behaviour.

Winding a child up whose gone away alone to cool down, is not ok behaviour.

I'm not sure where you got that he might've deserved to be hit.

He's a 7 year old child for goodness sake.

PeriPeriMam · 18/03/2025 22:25

tweedledee12 · 18/03/2025 21:47

Whole heartedly agree!

My children are taught to hit back and not be victims - end of

You would teach your 7 year old to get into a fight with an 11 year old?

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:26

Burntt · 18/03/2025 19:09

If the child told them to leave him alone then your child is at fault here.

i have a Sen son who hits out when overstimulated. He cannot attend school as it was too much. As he’s grown he can cope more and more in some situations and I want to bang my head on a wall when my child recognises he needs a break walls away to calm down and clearly says “leave me alone”. This has taken YEARS of hard work for him and me. Now he has these skills more often than not I’m still having to give him consequences for hitting out because some child who can’t accept “leave me alone” won’t fuck off and let him calm down. I can’t just excuse my child’s behaviour and I won’t even though it’s clear as day to me it would not have happened if the other child had accepted his boundaries. I’ve even had one parent tell my son off for being rude to her child when he said leave me alone.

it’s staggering how many children do not understand boundaries and how many parents get upset when their little darling gets a thump when they scare a Sen child by not leaving them alone. My own son has complex and high care needs, he may never live independently. But if another child says leave me alone he will back off immediately as he understands how invasive it is to not have control of your own personal space

Would you say a woman who was hit by her husband was at fault because she persisted in asking if he was OK and thumped her?

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:27

Burntt · 18/03/2025 19:09

If the child told them to leave him alone then your child is at fault here.

i have a Sen son who hits out when overstimulated. He cannot attend school as it was too much. As he’s grown he can cope more and more in some situations and I want to bang my head on a wall when my child recognises he needs a break walls away to calm down and clearly says “leave me alone”. This has taken YEARS of hard work for him and me. Now he has these skills more often than not I’m still having to give him consequences for hitting out because some child who can’t accept “leave me alone” won’t fuck off and let him calm down. I can’t just excuse my child’s behaviour and I won’t even though it’s clear as day to me it would not have happened if the other child had accepted his boundaries. I’ve even had one parent tell my son off for being rude to her child when he said leave me alone.

it’s staggering how many children do not understand boundaries and how many parents get upset when their little darling gets a thump when they scare a Sen child by not leaving them alone. My own son has complex and high care needs, he may never live independently. But if another child says leave me alone he will back off immediately as he understands how invasive it is to not have control of your own personal space

it’s staggering how many children do not understand boundaries

Is hitting someone on the face not a boundary that’s being crossed?

Porcelainpig · 18/03/2025 22:28

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:26

Would you say a woman who was hit by her husband was at fault because she persisted in asking if he was OK and thumped her?

Oh for fuck sake give over.

littleluncheon · 18/03/2025 22:28

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:26

Would you say a woman who was hit by her husband was at fault because she persisted in asking if he was OK and thumped her?

I'd keep them both in at break time and move their names down on the class behaviour chart.

MidnightMillie · 18/03/2025 22:28

God, it's like the thread is under siege 😬

Porcelainpig · 18/03/2025 22:29

Well I think someone on this thread has won spam 🤖 of the year.

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:31

Porcelainpig · 18/03/2025 22:11

You will find though that it will always turn into a debate about men being aggressors towards women and whether the child should have the police called on them, even though it has nothing to do with violence against women and the police are unlikely to respond to an incident like this. Then you will get the "why can't they just lock ND kids away" lot jumping in to take the thread on another tedious self interested tangent.

And MN will do fuck all about the ableist comments.

Nobody shad said that.

But why should a 7yo boy have to tolerate abuse when we’d never let grown women tolerate it?

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:32

littleluncheon · 18/03/2025 22:12

Don't think anyone's suggested a 7yo tolerates anything have they?

Have you not read all the responses? People are blaming the 7yo or saying it’s a “lesson”. Would we say that to an abused woman?

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:34

crumblingschools · 18/03/2025 22:14

@APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH if a 10yo hit their 7yo sibling in the face would you call the police?

Who said anything about police? I’m asking if a woman hit by her DH would ever be told on MN she’s to blame and that it’s a lesson learnt?

Porcelainpig · 18/03/2025 22:34

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:31

Nobody shad said that.

But why should a 7yo boy have to tolerate abuse when we’d never let grown women tolerate it?

@APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH nobody said it should be tolerated. Thats the thing. You just started posting random stuff about assaults on women. They just said the school should deal with it and maybe the children should be told to leave someone in distress and get help from an adult.

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:35

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 18/03/2025 22:16

Sounds like your son has learned a swift life lesson 🤷‍♀️

If a woman was punched by her DH because he wanted to cool down and she followed him would you tell her she “learnt a swift lesson”?

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:36

Katbum · 18/03/2025 22:17

No but these are children and so we don’t hold them to the same standards as adults.

Don’t we?! I do. I don’t expect kids to tolerate abuse, or violence.

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:37

littleluncheon · 18/03/2025 22:19

That's a really odd and unrelated comparison to make. Women aren't young children.

Is it ok for a child to to hit another child? No.
Even if they feel threatened or are very upset? No.
But does it happen sometimes? Yes.

It may be that the OP's child is completely blameless and was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. But often, children with additional needs are harassed or provoked by other groups of children at school.

Women aren't young children.

Both are humans - is there a sliding scale for humans who deserve to not be victims of violence?

But often, children with additional needs are harassed or provoked by other groups of children at school.

Ate the rules different for those children in terms of hitting?

Porcelainpig · 18/03/2025 22:37

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APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:38

Porcelainpig · 18/03/2025 22:20

@APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH That's a very assumptive post about ND behaviour and why are you trying to turn this into an argument about violence against women? There were no females involved. These are children and the school need to deal with it. You weren't even bloody there.

You are being very overbearing, derailing the thread so the OP is not getting any advice, and possibly offending women who have been genuine victims of violence themselves. For goodness sake, have a break and get yourself a 🍸

Would it have been different if there were females?

Im trying to figure out why people think a 7yo boy is to blame for violence against him but a grown woman wouldn’t be

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:40

Strictly1 · 18/03/2025 22:24

I think they might! They’re determined to ignore that they’re children.

Why do children have fewer protections in your book? You may ignore abuse against children but I certainly don’t.

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:41

MidnightMillie · 18/03/2025 22:24

Because the OP does need to get to the bottom of it.

Hitting is not ok behaviour.

Winding a child up whose gone away alone to cool down, is not ok behaviour.

I'm not sure where you got that he might've deserved to be hit.

He's a 7 year old child for goodness sake.

Yes a 7yo child - and it’s completely unreasonable to expect to know the nuances of how other children behave, or what pushes their buttons.

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:41

Porcelainpig · 18/03/2025 22:28

Oh for fuck sake give over.

No I won’t give over. Nobody has answered me properly yet.

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:42

littleluncheon · 18/03/2025 22:28

I'd keep them both in at break time and move their names down on the class behaviour chart.

I don’t think jokes about DV are v funny

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 18/03/2025 22:42

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 18/03/2025 22:36

Don’t we?! I do. I don’t expect kids to tolerate abuse, or violence.

Arguably the following the other vulnerable child and no doubt provoking them was somewhat abusive.

The 10yr old kid has literally done what’s been asked of him and the 7 year olds have sought him out to no doubt wind him up (being nobheads as many 7 year olds like to be)

I would be furious with my kid and have little sympathy. The only thing I might take up with the school is why this other kid wasn't being watched over at the time.