Changes to PIP

[Orangesandlemons77]

It looks like to qualify for PIP people will need 4 points in one area, see here from the Times
"In future, ministers will require applicants to score at least four points on at least one activity to qualify"
Not sure if this means in each section (care, mobility)

This would exclude quite a few people I think

The average person is not going to have access to figures which show the reality of how much money has been saved. Or not. Or how much has been spent. How else do you think the Tories got away with wasting money on endless vanity projects?

The idea is to reform benefits in order to save money. What would be the point of saying you need to gain more points than before on daily living activities and then making the criteria easier?

I also think that the proposal to film all assessments is a really good idea. Because atm assessors tell lies because they have targets to fail x number of people, the claimant has to go to tribunal which costs the system more money.

If the assessments are filmed, the process will be fairer at the first stage.

I don’t know - that’s just what I’ve been told. You don’t have to believe me 🤷🏻‍♀️

Time will tell.

So how will the job centre determine if you're fit enough to work or not?

this will be terrible for someone eligible for pip but who can't get it and has to wait for a tribunal.

The criteria isn’t changing. They are raising the points needed on one question to 4 points and then adding cumulative points to reach the total needed
LCWRA will not be awarded Unless claimant is receiving the daily living component.
This is my situation. I currently receive daily living component at enhanced rate but I do not Receive 4 points on one question, but 2,3 points making up the total.
i will lose daily living component(£434 pcm) and therefore lose LCWRA and be found “ fit for work”
My entitlement will be removed, but unfortunately my Moderate Cerebral Palsy and bipolar disorder will remain.

There was a man on the news who had prostate cancer and he was having to make a £100 mile round trip in a taxi EVERY DAY

Yes but the scoring of the assessments is changing (so I was told in regards to how the questions are set in the interview and how they are scored) I have what I consider to be good contacts in regards to this whole thing. May be wrong of course but I have confidence. I’m sorry you have this stress @Normallynumb- it’s not fair.

If I were you I would appeal on review, the appeals gave me 3 "4s" for severe mental health and a physical condition.

November 2026 So right before Christmas Nice. 🙄

@LyannaaOh yes, now I get what you mean. If the points are recategorised( can’t think of the right word!) then would be much fairer.
Your posts have given me some hope

MN need to take away the laughing emoji, its used to ridicule people or to poke fun at them aka as Bullying.

Yes people should realise, esp as they go into their 50s, that a stroke will alter their life forever.

@WingsofRain- report them to MN - absolutely vile to laugh at peoples disabilities.

I can see why they would like to but I absolutely hate the idea. It’s such gross invasion of privacy, like a Dr insisting he films you when he treats you. 😢I know it’s not sensible but I don’t want my son to have to be filmed explaining his deficits in order to get the help he needs. I find the thought of it deeply upsetting.

I always record the assessment (they allow this if you ask) so that if I need it I have a record of what I ACTUALLY said to compare with what they then write - which sometimes has been the total opposite!

Yeah, I can understand that too.

Yes it's so dignified being recorded talking about double incontinence. But yes I recorded my assessment and it actually captured how humane my assessor was.

Yes, I really do think this is very sensible.

Another thought - I helped a close friend write their son's PIP claim. It was pretty grim for me to have to write about the stark reality of their lives as an exhausted skint single-parent carer tied to their dependent adult child, and when my friend read through the first draft of it they cried. It was extremely emotional. My friend agreed with the content though, but said 'I couldn't have written that because it would feel like I was letting him down somehow'.

I think a parent's natural instinct is to 'big up' their child, not do what PIP requires which involves giving chapter and verse on unpredictability, volatility, violence, damage, physical harm, the constant monitoring and de-escalation techniques needed, and general misery.

A poster earlier on this or another thread said it's bad that claimants can get help, or pay for help, to fill in PIP forms. I think it's essential.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly3elzpl1zo

Just been reading this in how they have not done am impact study etc, really poor.