Sausage dog kills baby

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Sorry if there’s already a thread on this. Absolutely tragic story today about a sausage dog getting into a small baby’s crib and killing it. The parents knew it was aggressive and had taken precautions to keep the dog separate but on this occasion had forgotten.
Unfortunately the story is bringing out all the XL bully morons who are somehow using this to justify the fact that ‘fighting dogs’ are no greater risk than small dogs. Why are people so stupid?

The very obvious difference (aside from rate of occurance) is that had the poor baby been slightly older it would have likely just been a bite injury not a fatality.
Even a dog like a border collie or greyhound can to an extent be pulled off and restrained by an adult. Xl bullies and similar very large muscular dogs are a different story.

Not quite sure their answer holds up given Dachshunds were bred for badger baiting.

Any dog can kill a baby.

The difference is that if it was a slightly older child, it would have "just" been a bite.

I just googled it and couldn’t get past the first couple of lines of the article.

just……..no.

i know mumsnet loves dogs but why anyone would have their newborn baby anywhere near a dog just beggars belief.

i just went to a pub for lunch and they had dog dinners (dog fish and chips, anyone?) and treats etc. I think the problem is that people are treating their dogs like they’re a human child when they’re not, they’re a dog.

@Zippidydoodah

“I think the problem is that people are treating their dogs like they’re a human child when they’re not, they’re a dog.”

THIS! And any true dog lover knows the difference. It’s cruel to treat any animal like something it is not.

Is this the case in Russia?

Parents were so concerned about the dogs aggression they took it to be euthanised but the vet refused because the animal was healthy. They then "forgot" to tie the dog up for the night. The dog, a dachshund, apparently jumped into the cot and "silently strangled the baby with it's jaws"? The baby apparently didn't make a sound and the parents slept through the whole incident.

It's horrific but I'm not convinced by the parents version of events.

À large cat could probably kill a baby if it restricted their airways .

Was waiting for the cat remarks! 😂

Any dog can be a danger to a small baby. There's someone on my street who I regularly see getting their small baby out of the car alongside their unrestrained staffy looking dog. I have met this dog on the street and been told it's really gentle - but it looked extremely bouncy and excitable to me. No way would I be putting it loose in the car with a baby. It sends shivers down my spine every time I see it getting out of the car alongside the baby in a car seat.

My first thought when reading this was it doesn't really seem to add up. It might be true but just sounds very odd.
The jumping into the crib and silently suffocating the baby.

I thought it was advised cats are kept away from babies in case they smother them?

Yeah, that was advised about 60 years ago. Then someone noticed that firstly, this had never happened and secondly, cats usually steer well clear of babies.

I’m not sure you can believe anything that comes out of Russia. The dog in the photo accompanying the news article had 4 upper canines which is, umm, unlikely. “silently strangled the baby” is either a bit lost in translation or complete nonsense. Worried enough about the dog being aggressive to request euthanasia but then ‘forgot’ not to leave it with the baby??

It's still advised now, we don't have a cat but both health visitors asked if we did and mentioned the risk. Not sure if it's genuine risk or not though.

@ohtowinthelottery it’s illegal (in England anyway) to have a dog unrestrained in a car

Unfortunately the story is bringing out all the XL bully morons who are somehow using this to justify the fact that ‘fighting dogs’ are no greater risk than small dogs. Why are people so stupid?

If that was the case wouldn’t there be just as many deaths and serious injuries by small dogs, which just isn’t the reality?

The risk from cats is that they might curl up next to a baby for the warmth and restrict airflow that way. It’s a teeny, tiny risk and easily mitigated - we managed it with two cats and a premature baby (tbh the cats were so horrified at the arrival of the Interloper that they avoided everything to do with him, let alone his cot!).

I don’t really believe this news story as presented.

@crumblingschools A rule that is broken by most of the dog owning population, seemingly.

My aunt was always worried about that and bought me a cat net for the cot when I had DS.

My fat ass cat smothers me in my sleep if I had a baby in the house he would be allowed nowhere near them unsupervised

When I DID have cats and a baby they were kept apart for bed and nap times and never left alone together

My point is if you can do it for cats (two indoor cats at that) you can do it for a dog and I'm really irritated by the people who can't seem to grasp the fact that they are animals and don't understand what a baby is

On strangulation, this is unpleasant, but if you’re being strangled you are unable to make noise, your airway is blocked.

Dachshunds are aggressive dogs - they’re hunting hounds, so they’re independent and bred to kill small things. Their saving grace is that they’re smaller than most humans and can in most cases be fended off with a swift kick. That’s why they’re different to XL Bullies.

But yes they are capable of killing babies without adequate precautions. So are blankets, cuddly toys and co sleeping parents. Babies are sadly quite vulnerable in this way. This is more of a tragic accident than an incident of a killing machine striking again.

I agree. I don't understand it. The UK has gone crazy over dogs. So many people treat their dogs as children and insist on taking them everywhere with them even restaurants and shops and at the same time they are complaining about children being children.
I had and loved dogs when I was growing up but they were always treated as dogs , not fur babies, not part of the family to be treated like a human child, they were loved and cared for but as an animal and they were never deemed to be as important as people.

If I take my dog to a place that is dog friendly, then I am doing nowt wrong.
Scream about it and stomp your feet all you want.

This horrendous case was in Russia. Whilst I agree that we are very soppy towards dogs in the UK, the majority of vets would have advised differently if this family had been in this country.