Sausage dog kills baby

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Sorry if there’s already a thread on this. Absolutely tragic story today about a sausage dog getting into a small baby’s crib and killing it. The parents knew it was aggressive and had taken precautions to keep the dog separate but on this occasion had forgotten.
Unfortunately the story is bringing out all the XL bully morons who are somehow using this to justify the fact that ‘fighting dogs’ are no greater risk than small dogs. Why are people so stupid?

It's the second litter of pups we've had. The first was our own, planned litter. The first and last. It was way too stressful, expensive, and time-consuming. I have no idea how or why breeders do it. These are rescues. Their "breeders" were trying to sell them at 4 weeks old having claimed the bitch was trying to kill them so they needed rid asap. A rescue convinced them to relinquish the puppies to them but could not get them to part with the bitch.

We stepped forward to volunteer as fosterers after a nursing bitch could not be found. We have four chis already and experience of hand-rearing. Our two bitches, while they were unable to nurse them, have raised them, giving them the valuable socialization they would have missed out on leaving their mum so early.

The first litter was just as demonic at five weeks old and we are in touch with them all. They're all friendly, well-socialized little things so I'm not worried.

You'd think I'd know by now, but the noise, without any context, can be terrifying. They were not killing the cat. the cat was involved but she seemed to be quite into the little game they had going on.

Izvestia news :

https://en.iz.ru/en/1851695/2025-03-10/dachshund-bit-newborn-baby-death-tomsk-region

Oh yes, that much is obvious. My point is, dogs can still injure or murder children even if the parent IS supervising closely and therefore it is NEVER wise to trust a dog with a child, even if in the same room. My little boy's attack is proof of that.

Oh yes, Cats definitely discipline puppies.

I've never had a litter of cats or dogs- but the noise of friend's pups was much louder than I was expecting-it sounded really ferocious -they were playing tug of war with a toy, and wrestling with each other, they weighted only a few ounces at that time - friend says it's how they learn to be polite with each other as adults- and the adult {Mum} definitely disciplined them.

Another friend did have one litter of puppies but said ''never again'' - Finding good homes is a massive responsibility, {I couldn't be done with the worry of it }

What is it you’re sick of?

On average, in the UK, 3.3 kids are killed a year by dogs compared to 52 kids killed by humans (mostly step/parents).

I hope your child is ok, emotionally and physically.

I do agree..When my son was about 9 months old, I was visiting a friend at her parent's house.
Son was on the floor, being made a fuss of, and out of nowhere a border collie came charging and went for son.

I was young and fit, and was thankfully able to whisk him up - the collie only had three legs so couldn't leap high- but the sound of snapping teeth that closed on air will remain with me..and another friend had her two children attacked by an English Bull Terrier that came barrelling out of a park and it flew at her baby in a buggy - overturning the buggy, biting the baby and her toddler..The children are older now, but it traumatised them badly- ditto their mum.

{Both children have scars}

Am I the only person wondering how the dog jumped in to the crib? I have a dachshund and there’s no way she could.

My neighbour found her cats lying on top of her 6 week old baby. One over her stomach the other over her mouth.

luckily she came in to the room before the worst happened but she immediately regimes them both.

It's a ridiculous comparison to make, though.

For one thing, there are more than 5 times as many people as there are dogs, in the UK, so that brings the rate of killings significantly closer together.

Even then, most dogs are not afforded frequent, unsupervised contact with children. If children were more frequently exposed to dogs, especially without human adult supervision, then the number of fatalities would no doubt increase manifold.

On top of that, humans (particularly parents and guardians of children) play a pretty damn important role in keeping children alive. Dogs generally don't. They are (in the vast majority of cases) and optional, "luxury".

Very much an "apples to oranges" comparison.

I sort of assumed that the same journalistic rigour had been applied to the story as the photo that was used to illustrate it, and filed it in the "who knows?" category.

That’s horrifically sad but honestly what I assumed had happened when I read this.

that child was killed by one of its parents and the dog is a bizarre cover up

The baby in the moses baskets was the case in Ireland.

Reports from the attack in Russia say the baby was sleeping in a cot.

I'm agree the parents were either absent or too intoxicated to be disturbed by the noise from the attack. I can see why some people think the parents might be responsible for killing the baby but that wasn't my first thought, the details of the case, as reported to the press by a family member, just seem improbable.

We had to give our cat to another family member as she kept attacking our newborn. Biting, scratching, lying on top of her. Nothing stopped it, the cat was totally focused on getting to the baby and even figured out how to get through the cat net.

I have a dachsund, he doesn't do anything silently.
I can pick my snarling beast up, put him under my arm and remove him from any situation. However nice your large dog is, you don't have that option.
Can he jump? My bed is two and a half feet high, he manages that easily.
He would quite happily lay on a baby though, he likes human contact, so he could at a push suffocate but he wouldn't bite.
I had jack Russell's when dd was a baby, the other small killer dog. Absolutely daft dogs. Did I ever leave them alone with dd? Never. Why would you.
Dogs in restaurants? Nope.

I think the 'parents were too drunk/whatever/not actually within earshot/not even in the house' answer is the more likely.

However I raise the 'staged to cover child abuse/neglect' as it has happened, but its a situation not envisaged by many people, including unfortunately, authorities investigating attacks/child deaths in some cases. As forensic bite/dog attack investigation becomes a more common thing, we're learning more and authorities are wising up fortunately, but in some places it is sloooow.

It is truly horrific and I'll never get those images of scene photos/wound photos out of my mind - the damage a dog can do, and the lengths some humans will go to to save their own arses... both truly shocking.

I'm a dog lover but I would not trust any dog near a child. There's also been cases of young children killing baby siblings, putting them in the washing machine etc, so I would be mindful of leaving anyone with a young baby

I agree. It's all fine until it isn't. There's always a first time.