Sausage dog kills baby

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Sorry if there’s already a thread on this. Absolutely tragic story today about a sausage dog getting into a small baby’s crib and killing it. The parents knew it was aggressive and had taken precautions to keep the dog separate but on this occasion had forgotten.
Unfortunately the story is bringing out all the XL bully morons who are somehow using this to justify the fact that ‘fighting dogs’ are no greater risk than small dogs. Why are people so stupid?

Ridiculous, isn't it.
You know, statistically humans are a much bigger threat to babies than lions so maybe we should keep those as pets.....

There's something weird about referring to it as a sausage dog in the same sentence as saying it's killed a baby. It was a dachshund right?

Well I can spell sausage....

Its just a nickname, like staffie, we use that when talking about a death caused by one of those

Nobody is dismissing the idea that dogs can kill.

But given the alleged circumstances, there’s no way this child was killed by the dog.

But it makes a good post for the dog haters to latch on to.

If this had happened in the UK it’s inevitable that arrests and charges of murder would have followed. but as it was elsewhere it’s unlikely that the rest of the story will be published.

If its a true story, it is not the first time a dacshund has killed a baby. I have met some nice ones, but a lot have been really snappy and aggressive - they are bred to go down holes after animals - so it is not surprising that they can be really unsafe to be around. too many people get them because they think they look cute.

why is there no way the dog killed the baby?
I've not read the story but they have been known to before ( daschunds)

The other daschunds that killed dragged babies off of playmats or knocked over Moses baskets. This one allegedly jumped into the crib. That is simply not possible. A dachshund cannot jump.

Not mine either. Mine is restrained in an appropriate way, with an RAC approved seatbelt which takes seconds to attach, so unless someone was intently watching my every move it would be impossible for them to know if I was restraining my dog or not. Plus with the angle of my boot and boot door you would be unlikely to see anything at all.

This just seems an odd thing to say, just because how could you possibly know?

Because dogs don’t silently strangle babies. If a dog attacks a baby it does so aggressively. But this story leads us to believe that the dog climbed into the crib with the newborn, silently strangled it, and the parents never heard a thing, didn’t wake up all night and only discovered the baby dead at 7 the next morning.

And the parents allege that they took the dog to be put to sleep due to its aggression, and because they were refused they took it home, and left it to wander unsupervised around the house whereas before they’d always tied it up at night due to its aggression.

So they took a dog which was so aggressive that they were going to have it put to sleep, and they usually tied up at night home and then left it to Rome free - even though they knew, and were apparently worried about its aggression, and then paid no attention to their newborn all night until they discovered that the dog had silently strangled it?

I see a picture the other day of an old classmate of mine in bed with his days old son and the butt of his little dog was right next to the baby’s face. I cannot believe people can be so careless about their newborn children. Dog poo is so toxic and tiny babies are so vulnerable to infection. I think it’s a result of this guy and his wife treating their dogs as babies ahead of the actual baby coming along and still not realising in fact, they are animals. I actually have a dog and used to sleep in bed with her until my
child was born so I’m not anti dog, but people are weird about their pets.

well my very well behaved, sociable, faithful Shitzu that sleeps on my feet went for a chicken last week. Thankfully he let go - chicken is just fine. Dogs are animals - instinct is instinct. Never say never as each and every dog will at some stage do something that will remind you of their animal instinct

True but silent strangulation is not an instinct in any dog I have ever met/trained/studied/read about.

Grabbing by the neck, shaking violently while snarling and growling is instinctual but allegedly this dog silently strangled the child after making a physically impossible jump into the cot.

I love dogs and have my own dogs. They are treated like family but they are still dogs!

They do not get to sleep in my bed, or the sofa or come everywhere with us. They are never ever left alone with my children as soft as they are they can still bite/kill no matter what the breed

this story is not adding up though!

I await the XL bully fans having "their point proved that any dog can kill and fido the xl would never do this"

Exactly that.
Dogs are not cold blooded killers who silently climb on a baby and ‘strangle’ it. They react and attack, they don’t stealthily slink into a baby’s cot like a bloody ninja and ‘silently’ kill it. The Dad was the last one to let the dog out then ‘forgot’ to tie the dog up again. Very convenient.

Of course all dogs are capable of hurting/killing a child but in this instance I would say it’s highly unlikely.

I love dogs but this story doesn't surprise me - i am actually surprised there aren't more incidents of dogs hurting newborns, given how reckless people can be allowing their pets around their babies/toddlers.

When I had my daughter, it was the one period of my life I fervently wished we did not have our dog. The need to keep them separated at all times when not under direct supervision was exhausting, and made having a baby/toddler so much harder. But it was necessary. Even the kindest dog can turn at any moment - it can be injured, it can have an undiagnosed brain tumour..... And I have been told, and always believed, that newborns sometimes cry at a pitch dogs find unbearable to listen to, which can also trigger even loving dogs to uncharacteristic responses.....

And frankly, why would you risk it?

Yet you see these posts on Facebook with babies lounging all over someone's Belgian Mastiff or swinging off its tail (I exaggerated, but only slightly). I even know people who have deliberately got a puppy upon realising ther are pregnant, so that the two can "grow up together"..... Incomprehensible to me.

I think ideally, dogs and small children shouldn't be mixed at all - but obviously sometimes people get their dog or dogs (like I did) before they realise they may decide to start a family. In that case, extreme care needs to be taken to avoid tragedies like the one linked to above.

It isn't really about breeds in this case. At the end of the day, dogs are carnivorous predators, and they don't necessarily understand that a baby is human; not do they have a concept of murder and its ethical connotations. When q dog kills a baby, it's tragic, but there is a human to blame somewhere along the line..,..

There was a newborn killed by a jack russell some years ago.

As others have said- the difference is that an adult can control and physically prevent a lethal attack from a smaller dog- XL Bullies / pitbulls and other large dogs are not easy to restrain and can overpower a human

A daschund can jump.

@Mightymoog into a crib?

This is absolutely not true. Mine leaps onto my very high sofa all the time, despite having a bloody expensive set of steps she could easily use, the little git.

Don't see why not. A quick google says they can easily jump 2 foot up

Sausage dogs are very aggressive

A pack of terrier mixes according to the article. There are pictures of the deceased dogs and at least two of them are pit crosses. They’re all bigger than purebred Dachshunds.

I've just seen this story...

There are HUGE holes in it - absolutely no way does a Dachshund climb into a babies cot next to or even in the same room as the parents, without either dog or child making a noise. No way, did not happen.

Two likely scenarios -

• Parents were passed out drunk/on drugs, heard nothing but there was plenty of noise.
• Child died of something else, dog was used to cover this up.

Both scenarios have occurred before, several cases I can think of that I know the details really well (they formed part of a course I attended on preventing dog bites, assessing bites and forensic bite examination). One that really sticks in my mind was where a dog was taunted to bite the deceased childs arm... but beneath those bite marks (which had never bled... dead giveaway that the victim was already deceased) were HUMAN bite marks/wounds. They were caught as the bite marks matched one of the parents dental records.

Thats not to say a Dachshund isn't capable of killing a newborn or even larger baby, they are, many smaller breeds are. But it did not happen the way the parents state it happened.

Unfortunately cases of child abuse/neglect being covered up with dog attack scenarios are more common than people would like to believe or even realise, its rarely on any ones radar in fact, so often cases are not properly investigated, the dog is put down, everyone accepts it was a horrible accident, the parents have been punished enough... and its all forgotten about.

This! I went to the library the other day and someone was told to remove their dog. The library ffs.