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To take away dd(13)s en-suite?

521 replies

thatsfunnybecause · 15/03/2025 16:00

Dd(13) has bedroom with an ensuite, 3 year old is at the moment in a tiny room that basically just fits a bed and wardrobe.

We want to combine dd’s en-suite and DH’s office to make decent size bedroom for 3 year old.

Up until dd(13) was 11 and we moved to a bigger house she always had to share with either younger brother or older step sister.

She thinks as she had to share until she was 11, that younger siblings should share until then or be lucky and get tiny room of their own. And that by the time toddler is that age she will move out and she can have her room.

Is it unreasonable to take away her en-suite?

OP posts:
SemperIdem · 15/03/2025 18:53

AubernFable · 15/03/2025 18:43

Because it’s her space and for it to be taken away without her agreeing is not right imo. Especially not because of a younger sibling.

She doesn’t need to agree, she’s a child.

soupyspoon · 15/03/2025 18:54

Sounds to me as if the childrn are more than comfortably housed, what a ridiculous thing to say

MrsPeregrine · 15/03/2025 18:55

I would 100% do this.

lessglittermoremud · 15/03/2025 18:57

I would keep things as they are for now, our youngest is slightly older than yours and is in the box room with just enough room for a bed, chest of drawers and they are fine.
I assume your 15 SD is with you full time or at least a large proportion of the time, once she has gone to Uni if she is going etc you can reshuffle.
Growing up, rooms were allocated in our family home based on age, we all had our own rooms. Once my eldest sister went to Uni the next oldest moved into the biggest room and we all reshuffled around. The smallest room became the eldest siblings room when they came back for holidays as it made no sense for the largest room to remain empty for large amounts of time.
If you did the same your 13 year old would move up to the attic, your next oldest would move into the en-suite room and then your youngest would move out of the box room.
The box room would then become the Step daughters room to return to and she could also use the home office as her small sitting room/chill out space.

Bleeky · 15/03/2025 18:57

Would not recommend removing a bathroom from a home. More bathrooms is better for house value.

AubernFable · 15/03/2025 18:58

SemperIdem · 15/03/2025 18:53

She doesn’t need to agree, she’s a child.

Not how things work in my household, we’re all equally entitled to a voice, to share our feelings and have them respected.

soupyspoon · 15/03/2025 18:59

And she can be 'legitimately pissed off', doesnt mean that dictates what the adults decide.

If ever there was a thread that demonstrates why children are overburdened and riddled with adult issues, anxiety, distress, offence, a grandiose sense of self and self absorption, this is it (the replies not the OP)

Perhaps it would be better to wait until she is 15/16, and the 3 year old as completely outgrown that room and do it then, be even worse then

SemperIdem · 15/03/2025 19:01

AubernFable · 15/03/2025 18:58

Not how things work in my household, we’re all equally entitled to a voice, to share our feelings and have them respected.

Yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion in my house too. Those opinions can be taken into consideration. However, children are not the decision makers, ultimately.

Cathandkin · 15/03/2025 19:03

Bleeky · 15/03/2025 18:57

Would not recommend removing a bathroom from a home. More bathrooms is better for house value.

They've got 6!

TickingAlongNicely · 15/03/2025 19:03

You could try asking the 13yi hiw they would make a suitable sized bedroom for their sibling.

Cathandkin · 15/03/2025 19:04

TickingAlongNicely · 15/03/2025 19:03

You could try asking the 13yi hiw they would make a suitable sized bedroom for their sibling.

Why ask her that?

kerstina · 15/03/2025 19:05

How about you swap with DD 13 and you can have a room without a bathroom. Am envious of your multiple toilets as I live in a 3 bed terrace with DH and DS (22) with just one bathroom downstairs!

soupyspoon · 15/03/2025 19:05

TickingAlongNicely · 15/03/2025 19:03

You could try asking the 13yi hiw they would make a suitable sized bedroom for their sibling.

Is she studying architecture or project management?

TickingAlongNicely · 15/03/2025 19:07

Cathandkin · 15/03/2025 19:04

Why ask her that?

Because teenagers know everything?

Or because she's currently just thinking of herself and it might make her think of everyone. Or even come up with a better solution. Maybe losing a bit of bedroom but keeping the ensuite for example.

thatsfunnybecause · 15/03/2025 19:07

TickingAlongNicely · 15/03/2025 19:03

You could try asking the 13yi hiw they would make a suitable sized bedroom for their sibling.

She wouldn’t make one.
She would keep her in the box room or put her in with older brother.

OP posts:
whatsappdoc · 15/03/2025 19:09

Toddler's room becomes an en-suite to one of the other children's rooms. Dd moves into that. The expelled child moves into dd's old room. DD's old en-suite combines with office to become toddler's new room.

sesquipedalian · 15/03/2025 19:11

OP, do you want your thirteen year old to hate or resent their younger sibling? Because that’s what is in danger of happening if you take away her en-suite in favour of a three year old.

Christmasmorale · 15/03/2025 19:12

thatsfunnybecause · 15/03/2025 18:52

Yes and I do understand the upset and that she would be the only one sacrificing something.

But I cant see how it’s ‘not fair’, she’s doesn’t need a big bedroom and ensuite while younger brothers have just have average size rooms and little sister is in a box room, all without en-suites.
She would still have the advantage of the bigger bedroom.

Ignore these posters - as if life doesn’t change and parents can’t shuffle things around.

i shared with 2 siblings until I was 12 then had a box room that could only fit my bed until I left home at 18.

Your family are very lucky to have all the bedrooms and bathrooms you do and your daughter is privileged to have her own bedroom, ensuite or not.

An ensuite is such a privilege I can’t believe how out of touch it is that some posters are suggesting there would be any unfairness in taking an ensuite away from a teenager whilst still leaving her with two shared bathrooms to choose from.

AubernFable · 15/03/2025 19:12

SemperIdem · 15/03/2025 19:01

Yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion in my house too. Those opinions can be taken into consideration. However, children are not the decision makers, ultimately.

We make decisions as a family, (unless it’s life or death or something) everyone needs to be on board.

thatsfunnybecause · 15/03/2025 19:12

kerstina · 15/03/2025 19:05

How about you swap with DD 13 and you can have a room without a bathroom. Am envious of your multiple toilets as I live in a 3 bed terrace with DH and DS (22) with just one bathroom downstairs!

We had considered that but I think the master bedroom that would then be the only room with an ensuite has to go to parents. It wouldn’t be fair to give it to one child also we let all children in our room and use the ensuite.

OP posts:
Vaxtable · 15/03/2025 19:12

Most teenagers don’t have en suites. You do what’s best for your family and should not be dictated to by a 13 year old

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 15/03/2025 19:13

thatsfunnybecause · 15/03/2025 17:14

No, the 13 year old is both mine and DH’s, as is the 3 year old.

Removed because question answered.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 15/03/2025 19:14

@thatsfunnybecause why not put the older boy in the large attic room and give his normal size bedroom to the 3 year old. the step daughter who does not live there full time could have the small bedroom

Christmasmorale · 15/03/2025 19:15

sesquipedalian · 15/03/2025 19:11

OP, do you want your thirteen year old to hate or resent their younger sibling? Because that’s what is in danger of happening if you take away her en-suite in favour of a three year old.

If that’s how she would react then she needs the ensuite taken away as a teaching moment because that would be an outrageously spoilt reaction, and selfish.

I imagine though most teenagers wouldn’t react that that, would understand if explained to them, and you are just projecting on to OPs child.

CousinBob · 15/03/2025 19:17

For goodness sake! There are ample bathrooms in the house for the number of people in the house. It’s fine to do as you planned OP, but good luck in talking your DD round.

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