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To take away dd(13)s en-suite?

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thatsfunnybecause · 15/03/2025 16:00

Dd(13) has bedroom with an ensuite, 3 year old is at the moment in a tiny room that basically just fits a bed and wardrobe.

We want to combine dd’s en-suite and DH’s office to make decent size bedroom for 3 year old.

Up until dd(13) was 11 and we moved to a bigger house she always had to share with either younger brother or older step sister.

She thinks as she had to share until she was 11, that younger siblings should share until then or be lucky and get tiny room of their own. And that by the time toddler is that age she will move out and she can have her room.

Is it unreasonable to take away her en-suite?

OP posts:
WhatFreshHellisThese · 15/03/2025 17:48

HereintheloveofChristIstand · 15/03/2025 16:04

The value of your house will decrease dramatically if you take out a bathroom.

Plus, space is a key factor you have to take into account when you choose to expand your family, not just expect your existing children to suck it up and accept lower quality.

Edited

I disagree. Good sized bedrooms are more of a draw, than tiny bedrooms and en-suites

ClassicalQueen · 15/03/2025 17:49

I wouldn’t remove an en-suite from the house, it will significantly reduce the value of the home. En-suites are also brilliant for teenagers when they need more privacy and take forever to get ready!

soupyspoon · 15/03/2025 17:51

WhatFreshHellisThese · 15/03/2025 17:48

I disagree. Good sized bedrooms are more of a draw, than tiny bedrooms and en-suites

Agreed, Im not a fan of ensuites, exactly for this reason, OP seems to have a poor layout in favour of a ton of bloody bathrooms/ensuites/toilets/sinks or whatever they are.

Ensuites put me off a property, I realise not everyone feels that way but people dont like small rooms either

Springsunflower · 15/03/2025 17:51

We didn't loose value taking out ensuite
It gave us an extra bedroom,much more valuable.
And there is a bathroom on every floor ..so still 3 bathrooms to clean
Op has plenty of bathrooms
Definitely bedroom is more valuable

Cathandkin · 15/03/2025 17:54

soupyspoon · 15/03/2025 17:51

Agreed, Im not a fan of ensuites, exactly for this reason, OP seems to have a poor layout in favour of a ton of bloody bathrooms/ensuites/toilets/sinks or whatever they are.

Ensuites put me off a property, I realise not everyone feels that way but people dont like small rooms either

I agree, I saw a thread on here where the OP couldn't sell her house. It was a new build house where every room had an en suite, but there was no room in any of the bedrooms for wardrobes!

Clavinova · 15/03/2025 17:54

KnickerFolder · 15/03/2025 17:48

OP only says the step daughter only has a loo and sink. There are 6 bathrooms in total, 2 of those are family bathrooms, so presumably 3 en suites plus the step daughter’s loo. I think you might be confused by OP saying the 2 family bathrooms only have showers.

I think everyone is confused!
Presumably 3 en suites? The op described the room at the top of the house as a bathroom which it clearly isn't - just a toilet and sink.

thatsfunnybecause · 15/03/2025 17:54

HenDoNot · 15/03/2025 17:35

That the OP won’t tell us exactly which children have which rooms is very telling.

I will, I thought it would be confusing and unnecessary too .

DSD (15) has attic room on top floor, there is a toilet and sink up there also.

DH and I have master bedroom with en-suite

DD(13) has bedroom with en-suite.

DS(9) and DS(5) just have normal sized rooms

DD(3) is in a box room, there is also an almost equal sized box room that is used as an office at the moment

OP posts:
allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 15/03/2025 17:55

@thatsfunnybecause Can you put your older son in the attic room. and give step daughter the wee bedroom if she is not there all the time. my grandaughter has an ensuite in my house and it is a necessity in the teen years. they spend half their life in the shower.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 15/03/2025 17:56

soupyspoon · 15/03/2025 17:47

Well then it needs to be shut down and explained that its about practicality. As someone else said, neither child 'need' this, shit the whole family dont 'need' a house that size its enormous by the sounds of it, play rooms, other play rooms, offices, bathrooms a plenty.
Sounds as if she is being treated the same as the other kids at times when compromises had to be made. Thats life in a family for you.

Impossible to tell that she is being treated the same as other kids or that it is truly a matter of practicality as the OP has given too little detail.

What little detail we have shows other kids being treated better than she was:

A slightly older step daughter has an entire floor to herself.
A younger brother has his own room a full 8 years before she did and has a dedicated playroom downstairs.

ThinWomansBrain · 15/03/2025 17:56

How old is the step sister, how often does she stay?
Move the teenager upstairs - has a private loo and basin
Step sister has a smaller room

this doesn't have to happen right now, can wait until the toddler is older - but when he wants a room he can play and study in, not 11 just because stroppy teenager deems it appropriate.

Cathandkin · 15/03/2025 17:56

thatsfunnybecause · 15/03/2025 17:54

I will, I thought it would be confusing and unnecessary too .

DSD (15) has attic room on top floor, there is a toilet and sink up there also.

DH and I have master bedroom with en-suite

DD(13) has bedroom with en-suite.

DS(9) and DS(5) just have normal sized rooms

DD(3) is in a box room, there is also an almost equal sized box room that is used as an office at the moment

Where are the other bathrooms? Is this one of those town houses with several floors?

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 15/03/2025 17:56

Nina1013 · 15/03/2025 16:05

If you’re taking away the office anyway, why not give toddler one small room for sleeping and the other small room for toys etc? Firstly because I wouldn’t give then take away (surely you’d have thought this through when dishing out the rooms in the first place?) and secondly as someone else said, removing a bathroom will impact your house value.

Edited

This is solid advice

Onlyvisiting · 15/03/2025 17:57

How many other bathrooms do you have? I don't think any 13 year old needs an ensuit personally, unless maybe it means everyone using a single family bathroom. Bit I'm assuming you didn't give her the only one so presumably you have one, plus a family bathroom?
Imo modern house waste space on too many toilets/bathrooms per bedroom that would be better used for living space

I've got a family member in a 2 bed new build with more toilets than beds.

Doingmybestbut · 15/03/2025 17:57

Children have a very literal sense of fairness and expect things to be exactly fair and exactly the same.

I remember starting secondary school and, with an early September birthday, getting a lot of school equipment for my birthday presents that year: tennis racquet, hockey stick etc. Then when my sister started secondary school she just got given all that stuff and by the time her Spring birthday came around got a lot of birthday presents as well. So unfair!

You need to help DD understand that life changes, circumstances change and siblings don’t always have the exact same experience of childhood. She had to share a bedroom until a certain age. DS3 won’t. But other things will fall in her favour at times. So it goes.

Is it a half sibling? I think that makes a difference?

Clavinova · 15/03/2025 18:00

KnickerFolder
presumably 3 en suites

Clearly not.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 15/03/2025 18:02

I wouldn’t change anything OP. Your 3yo doesn’t need a bigger room until he is older. As a pp said, the downstairs playroom with family bathroom can become a bedroom when you don’t need a playroom for more than one child.

Move the older DS down there when he is starting secondary school in a couple of years, then the 3yo who will be primary age (5) can move into a regular bedroom.

Loub1987 · 15/03/2025 18:03

By the time it’s relevant to your youngest someone older will have moved out.

Your DD will value that bathroom and will remember that it was taken away.

andthat · 15/03/2025 18:08

WeeOrcadian · 15/03/2025 17:18

Your first post said 'DD'
Then said 'step-daughter'

Says it all to me

@WeeOrcadian Think you need to re-read the OP before you make any inferences.

There is both a DD and a step daughter.

TickingAlongNicely · 15/03/2025 18:09

There will always be an excuse why the now 3yo can't move into a bigger bedroom.

The only way to manage the situation is to create a bigger bedroom.

Yarden · 15/03/2025 18:11

Only sick people really need en suite. Cut everyone else it’s just luxury

Cucy · 15/03/2025 18:19

Why can’t your youngest just have the office room and have 2 rooms?

I would at least try that for the next couple of years and then reevaluate.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 15/03/2025 18:20

Let her keep it. She’s entering the years where she will value that additional privacy

Cathandkin · 15/03/2025 18:22

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 15/03/2025 18:20

Let her keep it. She’s entering the years where she will value that additional privacy

All the other bathrooms will have locks, plus she has her own bedroom. She has privacy.

Cathandkin · 15/03/2025 18:23

I think you need to move house OP! A house with 7 double bedrooms, all with en suite!

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 15/03/2025 18:25

I would leave you DD with an ensuite.

Your 3 yo has access to a playroom or can play in the the main room. It sounds like they have plenty of space.

Maybe later on you can switch bedrooms? One of the older ones might like the box room and the office space for studying or gaming?

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