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Is this a bit harsh on a 3 year old?

161 replies

Cordswain · 13/03/2025 09:31

I’m trying to make sense of some aspect of my childhood.

When I was around 3 I can remember being very distressed and screaming n the house. My mother was actually out in the garden and she came back in saying in a very cold voice:

”Stop this. It’s ridiculous screaming for your mum”

Just for context my mum was a career woman who went back to work full time after I was born - I was an only child so felt isolated

AIBU for thinking it’s harsh on a 3 year old?

OP posts:
LionME · 13/03/2025 12:10

I’m surprised that there are so many ‘context is everything’ (from people who obviously haven’t read the fact the child was 3yo, not 6 or 10yo, and thought her mum had disappeared)

Because I’m pretty sure that the way a 3yo screams when they’re scared doesn’t sound anything like the shouting a child does because they can’t be bothered to move or they have a tantrum etc…..
If a parent isn’t able to make the difference just by hearing the scream, then they have a pretty low level of empathy imo.

Also as this is an ongoing thing, aka just not responding to a child making them feel unseen and uncared for, then yes it’s consistent with the pattern of abuse the OP is mentioning.

@Cordswain what your alluding to is those moments that can be extremely hurtful, esp when repeated, but look like a non event from afar. That’s why you have so many answers along the lines of basically ‘can’t see the issue’. It doesn’t mean it’s not hurtful. It must have felt awful as such a young age to be dismissed in that way and basically been told to not bother your mum even for something really important to you.

Im sorry. It’s a heavy load to carry.

Doingmybestbut · 13/03/2025 12:17

I think we could all point to memories where we weren’t parented perfectly. Have compassion for your young self but also have compassion for your mum who was probably struggling. And then let it go.

WifeofBathtime · 13/03/2025 12:20

I'm sorry you are upset and looking back, but I can't honestly understand why you're thinking about this .

It's perfectly normal for young children to scream if their parents are out of sight when they don't understand that they've not been abandoned..

Do you have children yourself?

UNLESS something has occurred with your mum now where you feel you need to 'judge' her.

As a 3 year old your ability to understand an adult's behaviour at the time would be different to being an adult now and looking back.

What you're describing is you screaming for your Mum (she was out of sight) and getting a snappy reply.

Is that so terrible?

Maybe she was having bad PMS that day or had rowed with your dad - who knows? Parents aren't perfect!

My mum behaved very badly towards me at times - she'd chase me round the house and whack my legs with her slipper if I'd said something she thought was 'cheeky' (yet I was the most compliant and quiet child you could imagine.)

Now, she'd be reported for abuse, I'm sure.

But apart from these 'outbursts' she'd adore me.

How is your relationship now with your Mum?

comfyshoes2022 · 13/03/2025 12:22

I’m sorry this is something that is troubling you. It may be difficult to remember things exactly as they happened if you were three.

Arcone · 13/03/2025 12:23

This sounds to me like you have been to a therapist and they are convincing you of a case against your mother. Feeling isolated because your mother worked to hard is fair enough and you could rightfully explore that. But relying on a snippet of a memory that has no context really isn’t on

WifeofBathtime · 13/03/2025 12:26

Maybe your mum worked full time because you, as a family, needed her income?

It sounds as if there are other issues around your relationship and you've latched onto one incident to try to give credibility to your negative feelings about her.

muggart · 13/03/2025 12:31

Skandar · 13/03/2025 10:27

I think the problem is that this one instance lacks a lot of context for people to be able to really say whether it was harsh or not. There's lots of instances where it would be an understandable response - maybe you had a habit of screaming blue murder every time she so much as left your side; maybe she had told you clearly that she was just nipping out to the garden for two minutes and the second she left you started screaming; maybe she was just awful and would just disappear and leave you screaming for ages before coming back to snap at you.

I think this is spot on.

WifeofBathtime · 13/03/2025 12:36

I genuinely don't know why you would latch onto one memory of what you feel now, as an adult, was 'harsh'.

I can think of zillions of similar examples, but overall, my parents were loving.

Maybe you were demanding as a 3 year old and one day your Mum had just had enough!

Like toddlers who won't let you out of their sight when all you want is to go the loo in peace.

I'm guessing you don't have children.

Legodaisy · 13/03/2025 12:37

Ottersmith · 13/03/2025 12:03

No it's not really that normal. We have maternity pay in this country.

Not normal for women to go back to work… because we have maternity pay?

Maternity lasts for 10 months, not three years. I think you must be a bit hard of understanding.

Cordswain · 13/03/2025 12:37

TorroFerney · 13/03/2025 11:52

These things stick in your mind and can come back sometimes either out of nowhere or when reflecting.

I At the age of two had the absolute cheek to start to have what may have developed into my one and only tantrum, I got angry and stamped my feet. I can remember being hit hard on the legs and if I couldn’t remember I was often told in self congratulatory times by my parents how clever they’d been to do this.

i also got a “don’t start that” from my mother aged 11 just after I’d been sexually assaulted by a man breaking into our apartment. The comment came because she’d tried to hug me and I’d not reciprocated because well I assume I didn’t really want to be touched by anyone at that time.

so sympathies op, you feel how you feel,

Thank you - sorry that happened to you ❤️

OP posts:
grlwhowrites · 13/03/2025 12:39

Firstly, if this is a one off incident, it kind of sounds like you want to have found a “gotcha!” moment from your childhood to prove your mother was a bad parent, and this is your only memory of an unpleasant moment to do that?

If this is part of a wider picture, and you don’t wish to share that wider picture (as is your right, your childhood memories and experiences are yours and you’re not obligated to dish them out to any of us), then you must know this incident, on its own with no other examples of your mum’s behaviour, is never going to be judged by strangers the way it is judged by you. The validation you want will be hard to come by when discussing it on a forum like this.

As we don’t have any more examples of bad moments, I’m only going to judge this one incident. It probably was a little bit harsh to snap at a three-year-old but in all honesty, I likely would’ve done the same. Screaming just goes through me, it makes me panic, my head hurts, I tense up, my ears ring; I just need it to stop. If you were just screaming because you couldn’t see her and she ran in and saw that, she was probably just at the end of her tether and wanted you to stop, too. Or maybe she thought you were in serious danger and had that “oh for goodness’s sake!” knee jerk reaction when she realised that wasn’t the case. Also, you tend to have to raise your voice anyway to be heard over screaming.

Yes, children do need reassurance, and to feel like they can express themselves, but parents are human and are allowed boundaries too and sometimes, they don’t respond the best way when their boundaries are (unintentionally) trampled on by their child. It’s part and parcel of the parent/child relationship; it’s never going to be 100% perfect and parents will definitely make mistakes.

You mention your mum being a career woman but felt no need to say your dad was a career man until asked later. Why didn’t your dad’s career choices require “context”? It does seem unfair, to this causal outsider, that your mum’s work choices are being judged while your dad’s aren’t. Again, just judging off this alone with no further insight or examples, it sounds like you have issues with your mother and your relationship, and perhaps you’re unpacking that and trying to seek out more examples of unpleasantness. Whether that’s because you’re weighing up going NC because she’s a terrible parent and this was the beginning of you feeling belittled/upset by her, or you’re in therapy and remembering long buried things, or you’ve had a fall out and want to remind her of her failings, I don’t know.

Memory is a very tricky beast. It’s not always our friend.

MeAndMyCatCharlotte · 13/03/2025 12:39

I think it was a bit cold. I would find it difficult not to hug and reassure my child in that scenario. You were clearly scared.

WifeofBathtime · 13/03/2025 12:40

@Cordswain It's clear from some of your other posts that your Mum had real issues (you have said what they were.)

Your childhood was possibly very dysfunctional.

Are you having therapy to try to explore it and is that why you've asked about this one incident?

It's puzzling why you've posted this but not explained the context , which is clear from your other posts.

Am I right in thinking you and your Mum aren't in contact now- and that you're re-thinking that?

Brefugee · 13/03/2025 12:42

all those who are "all astonishment" at the answers might want to re-read the working mum bashing in the initial post.

No context and working mum (no mention of dad unless specifically asked) bashing? For sure in AIBU you're going to get pushback.

LawrenceSMarlowforPresident · 13/03/2025 12:44

As PPs have said, context is key. You didn’t know where she was so you screamed? It’s entirely possible for a young child to become distressed in these circumstances. But your mother may have felt she was reassuring you that she was nearby and screaming was unnecessary. Or maybe she was being unkind. Who knows at this point?

If she was abusive, as some of your posts suggest, why have you mentioned this particular incident? It seems ambiguous, not a clear cut example of abusive behaviour.

I also wonder why you mentioned her work history. Is this thread an attempt to discredit and criticise working mothers? But not working fathers, of course. 🙄

WifeofBathtime · 13/03/2025 12:45

OP has said elsewhere that her mum had some issues.

That's part of the context.

@Cordswain There are other parts of MN where your thought might be explored more gently than AIBU.

Maybe you could ask for this to be moved and even edit your posts so the circumstances were clear?

I'm sorry you're feeling upset but you do need to explain what was happening.

All the best with your search for some kind of 'closure'.

BlueBatsAndOranges · 13/03/2025 12:47

ProcrastinatorsAnonymous · 13/03/2025 12:01

Bloody hell. I try to be extremely gentle and very rarely lose it with my kids, but I have shouted at them and stormed away to calm down on a small handful of occasions. Now I'm worried this is all they will remember!

Don’t worry, as long as children feel loved the odd shouting/losing it will do no damage. Op has said this is an ongoing issue so obviously part of a larger picture of neglect/abuse.

Cordswain · 13/03/2025 12:47

WifeofBathtime · 13/03/2025 12:40

@Cordswain It's clear from some of your other posts that your Mum had real issues (you have said what they were.)

Your childhood was possibly very dysfunctional.

Are you having therapy to try to explore it and is that why you've asked about this one incident?

It's puzzling why you've posted this but not explained the context , which is clear from your other posts.

Am I right in thinking you and your Mum aren't in contact now- and that you're re-thinking that?

Edited

Thanks yes my childhood was dysfunctional

my mum’s dead now

OP posts:
Christmasmorale · 13/03/2025 12:49

AtrociousCircumstance · 13/03/2025 10:18

Anyone saying your mother was perfectly correct in coldly telling her three year old it’s ridiculous to scream for her mother must be as cut-off and emotionally stunted as she was.

Or we recognise that sometimes mothers don't always get it perfect and the toddler stage is particularly stressful for many mums. We'd love to be Chilli and Bingo's dad 100% of the time but can't always respond that way in the moment. Also 3 year olds are unreliable narrators. Sometimes my 5 year old tells me I shouted at him when what he means is that I put my fun voice away and lowered my tone to tell him to stop doing something dangerous/mean. It's just how young children can sometimes wrongly interpret and recollect events.

It does people a disservice to encourage judgment of loved ones from a singular incident- as part of a bigger picture of emotional coldness and unavailability, fine for OP to talk this through with qualified professionals. But ruminating over a single incident based on the recollection of a 3 year old won't help OP.

WhatNoRaisins · 13/03/2025 12:49

I get that abuse is real and does happen but there can be a real double standard with mums and dads.

WifeofBathtime · 13/03/2025 12:51

@Cordswain If your mum is dead maybe you should say she was an alcoholic. That gives the context and you'd get a lot more support as no doubt her behaviour was not ideal for much of the time.

I'm sorry.

I had a close friend whose mum was the same.

AlexP24 · 13/03/2025 12:56

Yes it was harsh but, as others have said, maybe that was a one off and she was very stressed out. Actually I lost my temper at my little girl the other week - I really shouted and she cried and took herself into the living room where she drew me a picture. It was of 'mummy very angry at me'. She had drawn my face red. She is 5. I have put that picture up on my fridge and honestly it reminds me to never shout at her, or the others. It was like a dagger in my heart, that picture, but I need to see it. I apologised so much and she drew me another picture where we were cuddling. But we all have moments where we are not the best mum that we want to be. Being a mum can be stressful. You may remember that cold tone but maybe she was a great mum the next day or maybe she cuddled you and said sorry but you can't remember. Sending love.

MargaretThursday · 13/03/2025 12:58

Nottodaythankyou123 · 13/03/2025 11:17

Yep I say this too, although now concerned my child will grow up traumatised 😬

Don't worry. I remember crying because I thought I'd lost mum when out at a similar age. DM told me not to be so silly and actually I found it reassuring because she clearly didn't think it was anything to worry about.

BlueBatsAndOranges · 13/03/2025 12:59

WifeofBathtime · 13/03/2025 12:51

@Cordswain If your mum is dead maybe you should say she was an alcoholic. That gives the context and you'd get a lot more support as no doubt her behaviour was not ideal for much of the time.

I'm sorry.

I had a close friend whose mum was the same.

Oh, well that obviously puts a very different spin on things.

Member869894 · 13/03/2025 13:01

Not abusive at all

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