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Putin has been facilitating migration into Europe to destabilise society

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ThisAlertRaven · 08/03/2025 23:37

This Daily Telegraph article today explains how Putin has been supporting migration into Europe. And it's obviously been working as Reform etc are using it radicalise people!!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/08/russia-putin-immigrants-weapons-hybrid-warfare-libya/#comment

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Whatifitallgoesright · 09/03/2025 09:20

There are Islamic terrorist attacks at very high rates in Germany and Sweden and ever increasing violent and sexual crime from immigrants all over Europe. I don't think people are "being told who to blame" by Russia. I think they are merely observing their communities and coming to logical conclusions.

Lambington · 09/03/2025 09:22

This has been known for some time. Nigel Farage is a disgusting snake capitalising on human misery and creating division for his own gain.

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 09/03/2025 09:23

Former KGB spy plays long game in manner of cold war and we are surprised? Gorbachev must be turning in his grave.

Fawful · 09/03/2025 09:27

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/08/russia-putin-immigrants-weapons-hybrid-warfare-libya/
The Telegraph is full of articles on the topic, all fascinating. Russia have links with that warlord in Lybia and they turn the migration tap on and off at election times in Europe.
They have been playing a very long game. This story about the Bulgarian spies who were arrested in the UK trying to harm the Bellingcat journalist (the one who worked out who poisoned Navalny and got the scientist involved to admit to it on the phone) is shedding light on so much.

twinklystar23 · 09/03/2025 09:38

Completely agree with most comments. Though had mused that putins goal to isolate the UK with brexit has it seems ironically positioned us to attempt some concillatory measures between the EU and US. Whilst still being mindful of the MAGA risk.
Maybe just a little fart in an east-blowing wind but interesting nonetheless !

Lovelysummerdays · 09/03/2025 09:41

I’ll make sure I’m ready to go

TemporaryPosition · 09/03/2025 09:45

ThisAlertRaven · 09/03/2025 06:28

It's clear that we need to stop Reform UK making further inroads into politics and keep alert for influences that seek to promote fascism. Just look how the USA has fallen 😬

Fascism?

Wanting a border is not Fascism

You don't need social media "dis/misinformation" you just need eyes and ears to know what is happening

Fawful · 09/03/2025 10:02

Yeah, let’s carry on giving money to Tunisia, Turkey and France so they stop people getting into boats, and ignore the fact that Russia is busy doing the opposite, makes sense… So Italy had a deal with Lybia, but clearly Russia controls a lot of what goes on there

User32459 · 09/03/2025 10:03

How is it Putin's fault that Europe won't control its own borders?

They're not breaking into Russia are they all these migrants?

User32459 · 09/03/2025 10:07

Genevieva · 09/03/2025 09:02

We literally collect people and bring them across the Mediterranean and the Channel. We then never make them leave when we discover they aren’t genuine asylum seekers. In all honesty, Putin would be wasting time and money, as we are already our own worst enemies in this front. He couldn’t orchestrate nearly such a successful system of mass migration.

Besides, on the U.K. we get about 1,000 illegal dinghy arrivals a week, about a similar number by other routes (lorry / plane) and 21,000 legal migrants, only about 3,000 of which will pay taxes here. We set our own immigration policies, so we have to take responsibility. Illegal migration really is the tip of the iceberg.

It's not Putin's fault we're such a soft touch.

EasternStandard · 09/03/2025 10:10

People will go where it's easier. Atm that's increasing numbers crossing to here.

Fawful · 09/03/2025 10:15

Just reading the UK had a deal with Lybia too, £1M to help them police the coast. While « Russian puppet-master behind UK spy ring 'plotted to create 15,000-strong army of private mercenaries to control migration into Europe'. »
if anything else does it not bother you that it’s a waste of your taxpayers money, to engage with « securing borders » when there’s another country doing the exact opposite?

Ellisace · 09/03/2025 10:18

ThisAlertRaven · 08/03/2025 23:37

This Daily Telegraph article today explains how Putin has been supporting migration into Europe. And it's obviously been working as Reform etc are using it radicalise people!!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/08/russia-putin-immigrants-weapons-hybrid-warfare-libya/#comment

You do realise that we only get fed information through the news, tv, newspaper, Internet etc what they want us to see. They edit clips for tv, just like they do for reality tv and they hope the sheep follow. Unfortunately most do. You cannot believe everything you are fed through media. Russia, Korea, China have all been doing this for years and we know this, admittedly they do a very extreme version but it's happening all over the world in varying degrees. Anyone who does speak up are, not long later, accused of rape or harassing women or inappropriate use of funds etc so that their credibility is put into disarray. The focus is now on this bit of false news instead of what the person was originally talking about then when the allegations are disproved and their career is wrecked nobody remembers what started it all, the person was either talking the truth or getting way to close to it.

Fawful · 09/03/2025 10:18

User32459 · 09/03/2025 10:03

How is it Putin's fault that Europe won't control its own borders?

They're not breaking into Russia are they all these migrants?

Only because it’s an authoritarian shithole that no one wants to go to

Ferro · 09/03/2025 10:23

This is one of the oldest conspiracy theories going – all you've done is substituted Putin for "the Jews".

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 09/03/2025 10:26

It has been happening since Tony Blair was in power. Clearly there is a bigger plan.

EasternStandard · 09/03/2025 10:26

Fawful · 09/03/2025 10:15

Just reading the UK had a deal with Lybia too, £1M to help them police the coast. While « Russian puppet-master behind UK spy ring 'plotted to create 15,000-strong army of private mercenaries to control migration into Europe'. »
if anything else does it not bother you that it’s a waste of your taxpayers money, to engage with « securing borders » when there’s another country doing the exact opposite?

Of course some are annoyed by the billions this is costing. We just voted in a gov that will see it go up.

If you want it stopped you'll need a change to laws. People prefer not to so it'll cost.

Fawful · 09/03/2025 10:31

I don’t « want it stopped », I’m just amazed that people are relaxed about Putin undoing what they beg their governments to do at great cost

Fawful · 09/03/2025 10:32

Ferro · 09/03/2025 10:23

This is one of the oldest conspiracy theories going – all you've done is substituted Putin for "the Jews".

Have you read the articles?

EasternStandard · 09/03/2025 10:35

Fawful · 09/03/2025 10:31

I don’t « want it stopped », I’m just amazed that people are relaxed about Putin undoing what they beg their governments to do at great cost

The U.K. is comparatively easy, the people responsible for that are here.

ArtTheClown · 09/03/2025 10:37

I've read stuff about this for a while. It's not even people at random, it's deliberately taking criminals and the worst people they can find - countries of origin are understandably delighted to get shot of them.

It's not just Putin at fault here, Western countries don't actually have to have completely mad, self-destructive, soft-as-shit asylum and deportation policies.

Fawful · 09/03/2025 10:37

i understand the drivers for migration, but surely the situation is less intractable if you remove Russia from the equation

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 09/03/2025 10:41

My local town has Albanian drug lords. This country has let the worst of any society in. It is about time that we did really look at who is here and what should be done about them.

Mrsdyna · 09/03/2025 10:43

Well it's not like our government are doing anything to stop it. They obviously want them here for reasons yet to be seen.

Fawful · 09/03/2025 10:50

Mrsdyna · 09/03/2025 10:43

Well it's not like our government are doing anything to stop it. They obviously want them here for reasons yet to be seen.

The UK PAYS Lybia and France to monitor their coastlines, and Turkey and Tunisia to keep refugees in.