Captain Toms daughter

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Is currently getting her arse handed to her by Judge Rinder on Good Morning Britain...

She is not coming across well.

Why the fuck does she think maintaining a public presence is a good thing
even if she’s trying to clear her name, it’s not working. Just go and live a quiet life somewhere!!

"Captain Tom" was a construct, whatever her faults she did an amazing marketing job from an old man shuffling round his garden.

I thought the whole thing was bizarre even at the time, but I think some people wanted something positive to cling on to and the version of him presented seemed to embody UK traditional values.

They're absolute twats. Who decides their elderly dad can "earn" their birthday present by doing laps around the garden? Which, by the way, was the size of a stately home. It's so fucked up. And more fool "the public" for supporting this nonsense.

She should be on trial for fraud at the least.

My dad was dead by then. He died before covid. Tom reminded me (and other friends who knew him) of my dad in his turn of phrase and even facially in the early interviews. People aren’t fools for loving their elderly/deceased relatives and neither are they fools for following the best advice available at the time. People were avoiding the elderly because the elderly are way, way more vulnerable to covid. You’d have to be a bit of a fool to risk exposing an older person to it (which is, of course, the point we began to wonder about the Capt. Tom thing - when he was put at risk).

Hook it to my veins

@cardibach

"You’d have to be a bit of a fool to risk exposing an older person to it"

well my view was you'd have to be a bit of a fool to risk exposing an older person to social isolation with all the attendant mental and physical decline that comes with it.

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@User32459 Ms Moore is baned from being a charity director for ten years. Most senior roles require a form of DBS check at companies house and the charities commission. However she's not banned from setting up another company. I suspect that the advance for the books has been spent and she delivers or returns the money. Fraud couldn't be proven as it was a case of 'operating expenses' were high. Including her and her husband's salaries. Nothing left in the pot.

I recall seeing a news item on FB about a Russian babushka who was emulating his "feat", so her PR obviously worked. (Yes, the Russian news item specifically referenced "Captain Tom".

There are risks to balance, for sure, and a friend’s mum’s dementia worsened quickly possibly as a result of isolation (though she did live with a family member). There are ways to limit isolation without direct personal contact though. I live alone and it wasn’t pleasant, but I used modern communication methods to stay connected. I got Covid (relatively mildly) early on from work (teacher - in regularly with vulnerable children) and even that wasn’t pleasant.

Totally agree. I never got the hype from day one. Some old boy walking round his garden and the nation went into some sort of collective insanity .

Shows how bored many people were during lockdown to applaud this nonsense and as you say, the gravy train of freebies carried on rolling until he caught covid on a free jolly up bring all the family for noticing holiday and passed again.

Seems the daughter is still trying to ride the gravy train and I’m pleased to see RR tearing her a new one with his customary calm professional manner.

Shes a shameless grifter still milking the cash cow years after it ran dry. Why she’s not up in court for fraud I don’t know.

Shes a shameless grifter still milking the cash cow years after it ran dry.

She's also not very bright. Why on earth would you expect to be able to pull the wool over RR's eyes. The man's an experienced barrister FFS!

Schadenfreude is alive and well, isn't it?

The 'Tom' thing was a mawkish collective of many people losing their minds during covid and this woman has become a useful effigy for public scorn. She should never have be allowed to get into the position of handling donated money, but she was. I don't 'like her' either but the comments made about her are really 'off'. More vicious than for Rupert Murdoch or any other con-man... odd that.

What this debacle has highlighted is that the Charities Commission needs a lot of work to keep a much tighter rein on what is and isn't acceptable use of monies donated. They deserve a bit of scorn too because they have an actual mandate to ensure that monies are used for the purposes intended.

Last bit of scorn from me goes to 'judge rinder', 'judge judy' and the like. Those that can, practise. Those that can't? Television for the frothing pitchfork public.

Why is this shameless leech still doing interviews? Haven't she and her husband profited enough?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86qdq67dd5o

Just had a look at CT's wiki page, which brings back memories of people being taken in by the construct. Reminds me of all that handicapping nonsense. I guess some people needed something meaningful to hold onto in those times. Or - in some cases - downright naivety.

Captain Tom was just as dodgy as his daughter, don't make the mistake of thinking he was an innocent old man.

I missed it sadly. Hopefully I'll find it online.
She & her husband have more front than sainsburys!

I didn't really get the whole Capt Tom thing either. Just was ott imo

Whatever he was, it's the stupidity of the public who put him there.

The pair are odious and undeserving of the absolute fawning pantomime that the public decided was appropriate.

@Lucelady In publishing, authors don't have to return advances. That's a risk the publishers take. Authors keep that and then receive royalties when more books are sold in excess of the advance payment.
If books sold fall short of the advance payment, the publisher loses out.

The advance is judged by the amount of books/value the publishers expect and is usually no more than a small token payment ( a few hundred £££s sometimes) except in the case of authors who are well-established and where sales are more or less guaranteed.

I never understood the hype with Captain Tom yet the world seemed to be going crazy about him so I figured I was just a heartless bitch 🫢.

I'd love to hear the other daughters side of the story,I really wish someone would interview her.

Rob Rinder was great!,he completelty ripped her a new arsehole this morning.

@tallhotpinkflamingo According to wiki his main war effort involved running a motorbike training program. Not exactly the retuning hero.

I have an awful lot of respect for many of the world war II veterans, my great uncle served in Burma. He never spoke of it for the rest of his life, rarely wore his medals (which are now amongst my prized possessions) and even without having raised millions for Hannah charity, he was ten times the person CTM was.

I think a lot of the anger directed at her is because people feel stupid they fell for it

I agree that the BBC and media should have kept out of it. If people wanted to give to the NHS they should have just given to their local hospital. Most of these large one off collections for things end up with some sort of financial mismanagement when people who aren't used to handling money for other people get lots of it.

> I don’t think she’s a criminal,
The Charity Commissioners disagreed

Hey- don't speak ill of the dead.

Unless you can back this up with facts, it's not fair.