To suspect the "deal" between the US and Russia Greenland for Ukraine?

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The way things are shaping up I'm beginning to think the USAs negotiations with Putin were for USA to stand aside and let Putin have part of Ukraine and for Russia to support the US to take Greenland.

Betting on an authoritarian regime for a temporary advantage while simultaneously preparing for nuclear deterrence against them? That’s playing with fire and assuming you won’t get burned.

Realpolitik isn’t about taking sides based on emotions it’s about ensuring long-term security, economic stability, and leverage. If the U.S. is shifting in ways you don’t like, the answer is to strengthen Western cooperation, not throw in with a power that has its own imperial ambitions.

It'll be out of self defence, not spite. Of course, we will need to proceed with caution (the US has taught us that) and not rely on that alliance enduring.

And it's a bit rich for an American to try and use China's "economic coercion, territorial expansionism, and disregard for democratic norms" as an argument in favour of aligning with the US.

The only allies Americans have are Russia and Israel. They are becoming isolated from the rest of the world. The US economy is crashing and Trump’s silly games over tariffs (which he doesn’t understand) are doing him no favours.

If self-defense is the goal, then aligning with China an authoritarian state with a long history of suppressing dissent, expanding territorial claims, and using economic blackmail would be like jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

The key to survival in global politics isn’t switching one dominant power for another; it’s ensuring you have enough leverage to remain independent of both.
As for the critique of the U.S. yes, it has used power to its advantage, just as every major state in history has.

But the difference is this: the U.S., for all its faults, still operates within a system where allies have influence and can push back. China doesn’t play that game. You don’t negotiate with Beijing; you comply.

it’s about ensuring long-term security, economic stability, and leverage.
And yet the US is currently and actively undermining all of those things. We won't have them in the long term when the US is depriving us of those things here and now.

This is a pragmatic response, not an emotional one. If China is the best way to ensure our short term security, then it's the only realistic route to long term security.

Just seen this - how true!

Monday - Roll back tariffs
Tuesday - Reinstate tariffs
Wednesday - Roll back tariffs
Thursday - Reinstate tariffs
Friday - Roll back tariffs
Saturday - Golf
Sunday - Golf

Which is why, this time, we'd need to invest in our own defence too, rather than simply trust our more powerful ally.

We made mistakes in our alliance with the US and will need to learn hard lessons from them.

He wants a Nobel Peace Prize for stopping the Ukraine war but surely, surely surely after the money the US poured into Israel to fund their war, plus the treatment of the Palestinians he wont' get one.

So it's a money thing.
They're doing this because their financial future is insecure?

This absurd show of "strength" is to hide their underlying weakness. Isn't it always?

But it doesn’t belong to you.

He’ll never get one - ethic cleansing in Gaza - no chance!

The US is turning into a joke. I hope other countries have the guts to stand up against them if they try anything with Greenland. The US isn't the only economic superpower anymore.

So the same values as Trump than!

The difference between the two powers is that while both pursue self-interest, America despite its flaws still operates within a framework that allows dissent, political shifts, and alliances to evolve. China’s model, by contrast, is rigid, authoritarian, and built for long-term entrenchment.

It would be a joke if it didn't control all of our IT services, the internet, Data, all our cyber defence stuff, star link etc etc
We are dependent on them whether we like it or not.

XWKD · Today 19:09

The US is turning into a joke. I hope other countries have the guts to stand up against them if they try anything with Greenland. The US isn't the only economic superpower anymore.

I agree, they're an embarrassment. I really don't think they can come back from this, Trump needs sectioned. The Gaza Riveira fiasco, wtaf.

Doug Ford needs to follow through on his threat to cut off the electricity to the US. That would teach Trump to threaten Canada with his ridiculous comments about us becoming the 51st state and referring to Governor Trudeau

Trump doesn’t even allow reporters into his press briefings unless they agree with him - it’s a dictatorship.

Doug Ford cutting off electricity to the U.S. would be one of the most self-defeating, politically reckless moves imaginable. While it might feel good as a short-term show of defiance against Trump’s rhetoric, the practical consequences for Canada as a whole would be disastrous.

Bookmarking this one for 4 years time.

I have zero confidence that the US will still be a democracy at that time.

Claiming that Trump runs a dictatorship because some reporters were banned from press briefings oversimplifies the reality.

Yes, certain journalists and outlets were barred at times, but this wasn’t unprecedented, nor was it purely about silencing dissent it was part of his broader strategy of controlling the media narrative, a move that many politicians (on both sides) have attempted in different ways.

If it were a dictatorship, dissenting media wouldn’t exist at all.

It would be victory for Canada - nothing negative about it. Doug has plenty of support here to do that. America in darkness would be brilliant 🤣

Cutting off electricity to the U.S. wouldn’t be a "victory" for Canada it would be an act of self-sabotage. The U.S. is Canada’s largest trading partner, and the energy sector is one of the strongest economic ties between the two nations. Ontario alone exports billions of dollars' worth of electricity to U.S. states, and those revenues directly support Canadian infrastructure, jobs, and economic stability.

Doug Ford making good on such a threat would trigger immediate economic retaliation, and let’s be honest Canada is not in a position to win a trade war with the U.S.

It was Trump being childish because a reporter (and the rest of the world) correctly referred to the Gulf of Mexico. T-shirt sales are doing well.

Trump would jump so high to anything Doug demanded when the lights go off in America. America would shut down with no electricity or oil or potash.

You seem to have a very isolated view of politics outside of the US.