To suspect the "deal" between the US and Russia Greenland for Ukraine?

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The way things are shaping up I'm beginning to think the USAs negotiations with Putin were for USA to stand aside and let Putin have part of Ukraine and for Russia to support the US to take Greenland.

but thats part of the issue with the free market capitalism and If one country is slapping tariffs on foreign imports (like Canada’s 200% dairy tariff), while another country is expected to keep its market wide open, that’s not free trade

@TheBrightJadeReader at the end of the day, none of us know what he's thinking - even he doesnt I suspect!

I don't think he ever intended for tarriffs to take effect. I think he uses them as a bullying threat and he's utterly astonished that other countries are saying "fine, go ahead - we'll implement the same back at ya". He's surrounded by such sycophants that he is absolutely shocked that other countries (Canada) are standing up to him and calling him out on his bullshit

quite possible, but then its political football with the public

it absolutely is. But he seems to think that he's still on a tv show (hence the this makes great tv comment when he was arguing with Zelensky and insisting on having every meeting with world leaders filmed).

I think he's doing it for pure optics. It LOOKS like he's doing something to his MAGA base, because they literally see him shouting at other countries. They don't actually see the footage of him backing down almost instantly.

thats the art of politics some would say, put the show on when needed then switch tatics behind the scenes when needed

Looks like he is now threatening a 200% tariff on all EU wines and spirits if the tariff on US bourbon is not lifted.

fair is fair

Drink for victory everyone.

I'll take the champers.

Europe Retaliates Against U.S.: EU Announces $28 Billion In Tariffs To Counter Trump’s Steel And Aluminum Levies

While the EU's 50% tariff poses challenges, the U.S. spirits industry is less dependent on the European market compared to the EU's reliance on American consumers for their wine exports.

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-threatens-eu-with-200-tariffs-on-alcohol-including-wine-and-champagne-13327780

Very expensive wines etc like expensive Champagne might be less affected anyway because part of the point is that they are expensive. So the flex doesn't really reduce if it becomes 3 times more expensive. At worst, the person who would have bought the 100 dollar bottle (now 300 dollars because tariffs) buys the 40 dollar wine (now 120 dollars). It would affect the cheaper end more I would think, but I assume Americans drink mostly Californian over old world wine anyway.

He's such a petulant hypocrite, imposing tariffs and then having tantrums when affected countries respond in kind.

But the US spirit market has already been hit by the Canadians, and they were struggling even before that as they were making people redundant.

I don't understand what you mean about putting a charge on exports. Why would any nation want to put a tax on goods on the export side, their own side?

Almost makes me want to rethink being a teetotaler.

Ontario was threatening it on electricity exports, but obviously electricity isn't something that the Americans (or anyone) can find an alternative source or just stop consuming overnight. For most goods an export charge would indeed be daft.

The EU's list of tariffs has been carefully chosen to cause maximum harm to American businesses, unlike Trump's tarifs which have just been thrown out at random with no logic behind them at all.

"If one country is slapping tariffs on foreign imports (like Canada’s 200% dairy tariff), while another country is expected to keep its market wide open, that’s not free trade"

@TheBrightJadeReader Sorry, but that's bullshit. The dairy tarrif is only on goods over quota and was enthusiastically agreed to by Trump in the last trade deal, which he called the "greatest deal ever." There is no unfairness going on with Canadian dairy products.

Sometimes (not in this case) it makes sense where there is a shortage in the country/potential shortage. e.g. not a tarrif but I think India has a restriction limiting exports of wheat at the moment to make sure there is enough for the population. Sort of stops what happened in the Irish potato famine when corn grown in Ireland was being exported while people starved (due to British government policy).
But not relevant for Canada.

It wouldn’t be daft in the case of any goods which cannot quickly and easily be purchased domestically such as the electricity in Canada or various steel and specialist products. On the contrary it makes far more economic sense

Seriously

Trump on Greenland: "Denmark is very far away. A boat landed there 200 years ago or something and they say they have rights to it. I don't know if that's true. I don't think it is, actually ... we really need it for national security ... maybe you'll see more and more soldiers go there."

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lkbovpctnf2q

It's always enlightening when Trump's 'speeches' are transcribed. Utter gibberish 99% of the time.

I did say "for most goods" and specifically referenced electricity as an exception

Did a 6 year old write this for their English class?

I am sure a 6 year old would have been more knowledgeable about Viking history, 200 years.......