To suspect the "deal" between the US and Russia Greenland for Ukraine?

[FancyRedRobin]

The way things are shaping up I'm beginning to think the USAs negotiations with Putin were for USA to stand aside and let Putin have part of Ukraine and for Russia to support the US to take Greenland.

Yeah, seriously. But that's AI for you. It's mostly drivel. The person (?) posting it apparently has no real opinions.

You mean join the EU? That's one idea being looked at.

It's not up to Russia or the USA to decide who Greenland belongs to. It's not a prize or gift.

Right. It's laughable. AI cannot reason so it just regurgitates the nonsense it has been fed, much like Trumper cultists.

but how can a detailed debate be had if its only one news article and no substance to back it up ?

have a heavenly day

Under his eye.

There are a lot of interesting "what-ifs". Slavery would probably have been abolished a few decades sooner. The Great Depression might never have happened, which may in turn have stopped Hitler's rise. What would Stalin have done differently in that event? Would nuclear weapons have been developed?

The 13 colonies would probably be culturally more like modern Canada now, as a lot of loyalists fled north following the British loss. California would probably still be Spanish-speaking and Louisiana French. It's quite likely that Native Americans would be better off, one significant trigger for 1776 et al was that the British wouldn't let the colonists expand westward due to treaties with native tribes. Australia's development would be different too, the use of the Chesapeake penal colony would have continued much longer.

No one knows if the world would be a better or worse place in the alternate timeline. My guess is that it would be different, but the pluses and minuses would net about the same.

An even better idea, Mango Mussoline hates the EU!

Thre is indeed talk about a European Movement Canada campaign

https://bylines.scot/politics/europe-politics/strengthening-the-european-union-canada-relationship/

The constitution is a piece of paper. It only has standing as long as someone is prepared to enforce it. The courts cannot keep up with the volume of illegal executive orders coming out of the White House. The adults who kept his last administration in check have been sacked and the Muskrat has been devastating the federal government. Previous presidents may have shied away from crossing the courts but this one thinks that he's the second coming of Christ.

It's worse than that. Never mind just regurgitating what it has found (which could be from any dubious source), AI has been known to "hallucinate", putting two and two together to make five, or even making things up completely.

Lots of US news blogs about Canada becoming the 51st state. They just don’t get that it’s not going to happen. Trump supporters are plain stupid!

In some ways it's a good idea, but Canadians are pretty independent minded. They would not like having to change their currency to euros, for example.

No we wouldn’t be changing our currency.

You can be in the EU without changing currency I guess….the uk managed it for long enough.

From a local facebook page

We will never forget.

"Dear 77,301,997 Americans who voted for Trump,

Being Canadian has never been about shouting the loudest. We don’t pound our chests or demand attention. We are sometimes like the quiet kid on the playground, just wanting to get along with others. We hold doors, say sorry even when it’s not our fault, and shovel our neighbour’s driveway just because it’s the right thing to do. We believe in fairness, decency, and looking out for one another.

We are the world’s greatest neighbour… and yes, our spelling is the correct one. We show up. In the words of our Prime Minister on Saturday night, “from the beaches of Normandy to the mountains of the Korean Peninsula, from the fields of Flanders to the streets of Kandahar, we have fought and died alongside you during your darkest hours. During the summer of 2005, when Hurricane Katrina ravaged your great city of New Orleans, or mere weeks ago, when we sent water bombers to tackle the wildfires in California, and during the day the world stood still — Sept. 11, 2001 — when we provided refuge to stranded passengers and planes, we were always there, standing with you”.

And yet, here we are – watching your president, a man who built his legacy on bullying, turn his sights on us. He mocks us, belittles us, and treats us like some inconvenience rather than the ally who has stood by you through thick and thin.

It’s easy to mistake our politeness for passivity, or our kindness for weakness. But here’s the thing about the quiet kid on the playground: push that kid far enough, and that kid pushes back.

Canada has never needed to boast about its strength. We just prove it. On battlefields. In boardrooms. On the ice. So, if you think you can push us around and take us for granted – think again. You think we will become your “cherished 51st state” – think again. Underestimate us… that will be fun. Because the quiet kid? The quiet kid remembers. And when the quiet kid finally stands up, the whole playground takes notice.

Now we are pissed.

Sincerely,
Canada"

True, but it is more time consuming when every transaction requires a conversion. Businesses would probably rather just use the Euro for simplicity's sake.

Parker231 · Today 20:06

Lots of US news blogs about Canada becoming the 51st state. They just don’t get that it’s not going to happen. Trump supporters are plain stupid!

Well, you have a much higher opinion of them than I do.

Plain stupid is the polite version of what I think of Trump supporters. My true feelings would get me banned from Mn🤣

The UK and Denmark were the only countries with permanent opt-outs under the Maastricht treaty regarding joining the Eurozone. Other countries (including the UK if it rejoined) in theory are obliged to join the Euro in the future. PL/HU/CZ/SE have avoided this by making sure that they never satisfy the qualifying conditions.

Yes, but maybe in the circumstances they would make another exception for Canada? Guess they could if they wanted to.

It's debatable, they'll want to avoid setting a precedent. The currency barrier between Canada and Europe is obviously a smaller barrier than it is between two neighbouring countries because while you can walk from the Netherlands into Germany, there is a great big ocean between Canada and the EU - in that context currency conversion is less inconvenient by comparison.

Perhaps EFTA might be an option.

Trump will have to deal with Mark Carney now.

Who will run rings around Trump!! Should be interesting ….

Agree. Trump will intimidated by his intellect and education. There is nothing anybody, let alone Trump, can tell Carney about economics. I hope he corrects Trump's lies and ignorant drivel right to his face.