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To suspect the "deal" between the US and Russia Greenland for Ukraine?

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FancyRedRobin · 05/03/2025 09:02

The way things are shaping up I'm beginning to think the USAs negotiations with Putin were for USA to stand aside and let Putin have part of Ukraine and for Russia to support the US to take Greenland.

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CanadaNotAMum · 08/03/2025 16:22

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 16:18

And I need to think about what to make for lunch - temperature has dropped again - more snow forecast tomorrow ❄️

I hope you have a lovely lunch. I’m just finishing my second cup of tea. -8C here in Montreal but bright, so I think I’ll head out and do some snowshoeing this afternoon.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:24

CanadaNotAMum · 08/03/2025 16:22

I hope you have a lovely lunch. I’m just finishing my second cup of tea. -8C here in Montreal but bright, so I think I’ll head out and do some snowshoeing this afternoon.

have a good cuppa, and keep wrapped up

poetryandwine · 08/03/2025 16:24

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 16:15

I think the CIA are more likely to organise a secret political coup against Trump and have him assassinated than do anything to take over Canada. Remember the majority of federal employees think he’s a fuckwit,

Agreed

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 16:24

CanadaNotAMum · 08/03/2025 16:22

I hope you have a lovely lunch. I’m just finishing my second cup of tea. -8C here in Montreal but bright, so I think I’ll head out and do some snowshoeing this afternoon.

Hey - we’re also in Montreal! Off next week to stay with the in laws in Quebec.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:24

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 16:24

Hey - we’re also in Montreal! Off next week to stay with the in laws in Quebec.

have a great time

nam3c4ang3 · 08/03/2025 16:25

Trump is just rambling - he cant legally take canada or greenland - he is just running his mouth because he can. Now a war with china - I think that is something he is defo scared of.

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 16:26

BIossomtoes · 08/03/2025 16:16

He’s done really well at staying awake and posting for 24 hours solid though. You can’t knock his stamina.

It’s almost as if there’s a little tag team on the go.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:26

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 16:26

It’s almost as if there’s a little tag team on the go.

i dont understand where the time confusion is, that said im solo

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 16:28

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:17

nah mines better lol, usually its the way its worded when requesting the analysis at times that can alter the outputs

Well I asked a very open ended question to try and get as unbiased answer as possible. I suspect you did not.

by all means try and influence AI to get a biased answer which ties in with your delusions…but really what’s the point. You’re not fooling anyone else and deep down if you’re a genuine person (which I doubt) then I doubt you’re actually fooling yourself. Unless you’re really stupid.

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 16:29

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15Q2uzGv4e/?mibextid=wwXIfr

this is funny!

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:33

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 16:28

Well I asked a very open ended question to try and get as unbiased answer as possible. I suspect you did not.

by all means try and influence AI to get a biased answer which ties in with your delusions…but really what’s the point. You’re not fooling anyone else and deep down if you’re a genuine person (which I doubt) then I doubt you’re actually fooling yourself. Unless you’re really stupid.

because even if i tweak the question it can only give me the information that is available and has happened.

my prompt was: can this be achieved with Canada : then instead of a coup, its the blackmail method then the leaders stay in power but concede to America and is the idea there based on how intel services have been used ?

in reference to how the Cia has been in the past

BIossomtoes · 08/03/2025 16:35

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:33

because even if i tweak the question it can only give me the information that is available and has happened.

my prompt was: can this be achieved with Canada : then instead of a coup, its the blackmail method then the leaders stay in power but concede to America and is the idea there based on how intel services have been used ?

in reference to how the Cia has been in the past

Edited

Maybe go and get some sleep. Your brain quite clearly needs a rest.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:36

BIossomtoes · 08/03/2025 16:35

Maybe go and get some sleep. Your brain quite clearly needs a rest.

its good debating with everyone

CanadaNotAMum · 08/03/2025 16:37

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:26

i dont understand where the time confusion is, that said im solo

Do you have any plans for your weekend? Family gatherings, any events, planning to get outdoors? You’ve been posting nonstop so surely you don’t want to spend your entire weekend like this! That much screen time is not healthy. Hopefully there must be friend or parent who can encourage you to take a break!

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 16:37

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:26

i dont understand where the time confusion is, that said im solo

You just don’t come across as overly trustworthy/genuine.

you’re a brand new poster who seems to have mainly posted on this thread with the odd limited comment on a couple of other threads today and yesterday.

yesterday you said you were American , but your posting times don’t tie in with someone who lives in America.

why wales ? when im usa

today you say you’re British. 🤷‍♀️

so it kind of seems you don’t know who you are, can’t remember what you’ve previously said, are generally bullshitting us, are more than one person?? All or none of that may be true but it’s your own posts which make people wonder.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:38

CanadaNotAMum · 08/03/2025 16:37

Do you have any plans for your weekend? Family gatherings, any events, planning to get outdoors? You’ve been posting nonstop so surely you don’t want to spend your entire weekend like this! That much screen time is not healthy. Hopefully there must be friend or parent who can encourage you to take a break!

thats a fair point, i do some trips to town and hear the birds twitter etc, then i swing by the local supermaket to get the latest intel updates . its not easy being 007

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:39

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 16:37

You just don’t come across as overly trustworthy/genuine.

you’re a brand new poster who seems to have mainly posted on this thread with the odd limited comment on a couple of other threads today and yesterday.

yesterday you said you were American , but your posting times don’t tie in with someone who lives in America.

why wales ? when im usa

today you say you’re British. 🤷‍♀️

so it kind of seems you don’t know who you are, can’t remember what you’ve previously said, are generally bullshitting us, are more than one person?? All or none of that may be true but it’s your own posts which make people wonder.

the film called swordfish,
basically i was doing misdirection or misinformation

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:40

besides it should be my debate points that matter the most, and ill admit thank you for those that have helped me improve and understand

CanadaNotAMum · 08/03/2025 16:42

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:38

thats a fair point, i do some trips to town and hear the birds twitter etc, then i swing by the local supermaket to get the latest intel updates . its not easy being 007

I think that this IS your job, and I must say, I think Putin is working you guys too hard. Things must be grim in Russia if this is what people do for money.
Anyway, I’m bored with you so I’m out.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 16:43

CanadaNotAMum · 08/03/2025 16:42

I think that this IS your job, and I must say, I think Putin is working you guys too hard. Things must be grim in Russia if this is what people do for money.
Anyway, I’m bored with you so I’m out.

im british intelligence at heart, russia , nah the british look after me better

SinnerBoy · 08/03/2025 17:08

Parker231 · Today 16:29

^https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15Q2uzGv4e/?mibextid=wwXIfr^
this is funny!

You will regret it
When we turn out the lights

😆

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/03/2025 18:02

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 13:38

Let me be clear: debate is not a game of parroting a single source or clinging to one perspective. It’s a battlefield of ideas, and I come armed with the best tools at my disposal.

Yes, I use multiple sources co-pilot, Wikipedia, news outlets, and even Grammarly to refine my delivery. Why? Because the world moves fast, and information is a torrent, not a trickle. To debate effectively, I must sift through the noise, extract the signal, and recombine it into something coherent, compelling, and uniquely mine.

Now, let’s address the accusation of 'copying and pasting.' If by that you mean I gather insights from a variety of sources, analyze them, and synthesize my debate points then guilty as charged.

But tell me, would you prefer I limit myself to one or two articles, regurgitating their contents without question? That’s not debate; that’s intellectual laziness. A proper debate demands breadth and depth, and that requires research lots of it.

As for the occasional spelling error, let’s not pretend perfection is the hallmark of authenticity. When I use Grammarly, it’s to ensure clarity, not to mask incompetence. And when I don’t? Well, that’s just the human touch, isn’t it? A reminder that even the sharpest minds can stumble over a keystroke.
So, let’s not get distracted by the tools I use or the methods I employ. Focus instead on the substance of my arguments. Because at the end of the day, it’s not about how I build my case it’s about whether it stands up to scrutiny.

Now let me ask the critics: can you do better?

Would you spend your time using different tools and resources scouring countless sources, dissecting viewpoints, and crafting different debate points on the fly?

Or would you rather skim an article or two and claim victory without scratching the surface?

The reality is, crafting a debate worthy of attention requires effort researching broadly, synthesizing , and presenting and using different tools and sources to achieve this. Overall It’s about delivering debate points.

Edited

I can do better.

Read widely, from varied sources including primary sources. Think critically instead of just defending your entrenched position. Seek to understand, not to argue.

You've brought an intellectual knife to a gunfight. I suggest you read, slowly, digest, and use the brains that god gave you to understand the OTHER person's point of view.

Post far less but with more thought. And use your own words like a grown-up.

Just FYI the reason spelling is important, even though everyone has been told AI will do it for you is this... Apricate is a real word. It means to bask like a snake in the sun. If you mangle words completely, spellcheck will 'correct' to the closest word, in this case the wrong one. Best way to learn to spell is to read actual books, which are edited by humans, and therefore broadly correct, at least in SPAG.

It's worth noting that almost all of the great thinkers wrote books, which are available, for free, in your local library. They are there for free because people like Trump don't think you'll read them. Librarians are deeply subversive and will assist you to learn if you ask them for recommendations to get out of your comfort zone. May I suggest:

1984
Animal Farm
Fahrenheit 451
Anything by Chimamanda Ngozi
Anything by any Central American writer at all.
Throw in some Thomas Hobbes and Kafka.
John Stuart Mill
And very importantly... Hannah Arendt The Origins of Totalitarianism which BTW isn't an instruction manual.

Psychostates · 08/03/2025 18:08

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 16:07

It’s like debating with a 5yo

Hey, don't insult my 5 year old, he would do better than that! 😂

Psychostates · 08/03/2025 18:12

CanadaNotAMum · 08/03/2025 16:17

Russian pretending to be from both the US and Britain, definitely using AI and translation app. The frequency makes me think there are a few of them working on these replies. It might not be an official thing, maybe just some bored university students with nothing else to do but infiltrate Mumsnet.

I think this too, are MN aware? Maybe afew of us should report this poster? I suspect multiple too.

BIossomtoes · 08/03/2025 18:15

Psychostates · 08/03/2025 18:12

I think this too, are MN aware? Maybe afew of us should report this poster? I suspect multiple too.

It’s pointless reporting. There was one of these (less obvious than this one) on another thread the other day. I reported and was ignored.

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