To suspect the "deal" between the US and Russia Greenland for Ukraine?

[FancyRedRobin]

The way things are shaping up I'm beginning to think the USAs negotiations with Putin were for USA to stand aside and let Putin have part of Ukraine and for Russia to support the US to take Greenland.

Trump would have to align the USA with countries like Russia, China, Israel….because nobody else will want to be an ally.

This is what Trump has already done.

well the cia have had their hands in the past changing govts and history proves that

OP,

Your post I am following up is from 21.49 yesterday. It talks about increased defense spending. The article above is about absolute amounts These are apples and oranges and cannot be compared. My point is that defense spending is being decreased, markedly.

Shortly after that post of 21.49 you wrote that you are in the USA. So for clarification, per your comment above, are you a British citizen in America?

had to use assistance for the list :

The CIA has been involved in numerous coups and regime changes throughout history, often driven by U.S. strategic, political, or economic interests. Here are some notable examples:

1. Iran (1953): The CIA orchestrated Operation Ajax, which overthrew Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh after he nationalized Iran's oil industry. This coup reinstated the Shah of Iran, who was more aligned with U.S. interests.
2. Guatemala (1954): The CIA led Operation PBSUCCESS to depose President Jacobo Árbenz, whose land reforms threatened the interests of the United Fruit Company. This resulted in decades of political instability in Guatemala.
3. Chile (1973): The CIA supported the military coup that ousted democratically elected President Salvador Allende. General Augusto Pinochet took power, leading to years of authoritarian rule.
4. Congo (1960s): The CIA played a role in the assassination of Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba and supported Joseph Mobutu, who became a long-standing dictator.
5. Indonesia (1965): The CIA provided support to General Suharto during a coup against President Sukarno, including lists of suspected communists who were later targeted.
6. Honduras (2009): While not directly orchestrating the coup, the U.S. was criticized for its ambiguous stance during the ousting of President Manuel Zelaya.

so everyone do my ideas seem so far fetched ???

Changing government is not the same as handing over your sovereignity.

If we are to believe that Putin is blackmailing Trump, how long before he hands over the US to Russia?

If you’re really British you’d know that the British public have managed to hound enough PMs out of office when they’ve done stuff we don’t agree with. I’m sure the Canadians could manage the same.

I mean you could equally say that the U.K. decides the Canada Act was a load of bollocks and renege on that. I’d say that the U.K. has more “right” to take Canada back than the USA does to take it over. Thankfully the U.K. aren’t a bunch of megalomaniacs and would have no such thoughts.

that i do not know

Yes

They’re not your ideas. They’re filched from all over the internet and presented unprocessed by your brain.

fair points but these days various groups have different strategies etc so whos to say whats what

Yes

Maybe change the plot for your book

im refering to the idea of the govt using the security services to make the plans happen my list proved my point on that

well history says different

This is what I was thinking. Trump is nothing but a pawn in Putin's game. He is alienating America from Europe to weaken them. Trump cannot see the wood for the trees because of his narcissism, and idiocy.

Do you not think there’s a bit of a difference between those countries and Canada?

the USA tried for many, many years to organise a secret political coup in Cuba and have repeatedly failed. Google operation Mongoose for details. If they can’t manage it against Cuba they have no chance against Cuba.

all the countries you mentioned were unstable and very importantly had a population who did not like their government. They were also promised a better government of their own…ie, not being taken over by the USA. So we’re keen for a regime change and happily supporting it.

No, it doesn't.

but its false logic to presume that because they failed againt cuba that they would fail against canada

No it doesn’t. You are demonstrating your lack of knowledge and understanding over and over again. I don’t even have to resort to AI and I’m afraid I’m running rings round you.

Explain why it’s a false logic then.

my point was history shows the security services have changed govts etc and a failure to achieve it in cuba could be due to many factors which may not be the same factors that would prevent them in eg canada if they wanted to.

besides its not about winning or point scoring in this debate i could be wrong in all my points.

How do you think Trump would force a coup against Canada - a well developed stable democracy

because there could be different factors that would explain why they failed in cuba

and then there could be different factors that could mean they suceed in canada if they use the Cia etc to do the necessary deeds

What different factors?

My turn for a link

https://theconversation.com/why-annexing-canada-would-destroy-the-united-states-249561