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To suspect the "deal" between the US and Russia Greenland for Ukraine?

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FancyRedRobin · 05/03/2025 09:02

The way things are shaping up I'm beginning to think the USAs negotiations with Putin were for USA to stand aside and let Putin have part of Ukraine and for Russia to support the US to take Greenland.

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LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:41

for all, im british

DuncinToffee · 08/03/2025 15:41

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:39

but just because they say that whos to say the intelligence services get intel they can use during negoations so what starts as publicy not for sale soon apears to be that oh now we are open for business etc ?

When you say intel, do you mean blackmail?

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 15:42

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:39

but just because they say that whos to say the intelligence services get intel they can use during negoations so what starts as publicy not for sale soon apears to be that oh now we are open for business etc ?

There is nothing which would persuade Canadians to join the US but I’m sure many Americans will now be coming north of the border. Patriotism is at an all time high in Canada.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:43

DuncinToffee · 08/03/2025 15:41

When you say intel, do you mean blackmail?

yes

poetryandwine · 08/03/2025 15:44

Cont’d

… the tariffs are tanking the stock market, school districts don’t know what to think. Etc etc etc

That post of yours about how well things are going made no sense to me at all so I await further explanation.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:44

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 15:42

There is nothing which would persuade Canadians to join the US but I’m sure many Americans will now be coming north of the border. Patriotism is at an all time high in Canada.

i always assume that in the end by hook or by crook the rulers will have their outcome reguardless of the population wishes ?

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 15:45

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:44

i always assume that in the end by hook or by crook the rulers will have their outcome reguardless of the population wishes ?

The “rulers” of Canada and Greenland have already said no as have the citizens.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:46

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 15:45

The “rulers” of Canada and Greenland have already said no as have the citizens.

no for now, until that intel changes things ?

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:47

how many times do rulers in histroy say no, then suddenly change views ?

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 15:48

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:38

but if he finds ways that means he does not need to achieve it by force then why would nato get involved ?

Ok, try and think logically. What non violent ways do you think he may achieve this?

There is no legal route, not in a million years…both countries readily agreed to the border well over a hundred years ago.

Canada is never going to willingly agree to it.

So that leaves either a full on invasion which I’d like to think is unlikely but God knows as Trump seems to have lost the plot. I’d say he’s more likely to try some sort of serious trade/tariff war, almost like a modern day siege.

Does Trump think Canada is weak enough that if he stops all trade in both directions that Canada will crumble and fall to its knees and beg to give away some of its land or become the next State.

Trump is certainly bonkers enough to try this. But I don’t think Canada would capitulate like he would want it to. I also don’t think Canada is as weak as Trump thinks it is. the ramifications for both countries could be quite severe. But America’s standing with other countries would absolutely tumble. To an even lower point than what it currently is. Trump would have to align the USA with countries like Russia, China, Israel….because nobody else will want to be an ally. Is that what Americans want? And that’s how we could find ourselves with a very real shift in traditional allies and the potential to fall into ww3 is immense.

@LovingHare please note how i haven’t used AI or copied and pasted anything. I’m speaking with passion and am open to debate. I’m not even referencing anything. I may not be correct and would be open to other knowledgable posters having a counter argument, but I am not open to debating with chunks of AI.

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 15:48

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:47

how many times do rulers in histroy say no, then suddenly change views ?

You obviously don’t understand how Canadians think about their country and culture- why would they change their minds?

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 15:49

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:46

no for now, until that intel changes things ?

The intel would be that America is an even worse country than anyone knew.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:50

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 15:48

You obviously don’t understand how Canadians think about their country and culture- why would they change their minds?

because at a guess and without any assistance, or reseach, surley all the public can do is protest ? but if their govt agrees to trump ? then surley the public will just have to go along with it ? unless theres ways the public can go againts the govt ?

ill admit ive got lots of gaps in my knowledge

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:51

@CerealPosterHere

honestly, using the cia,nsa, etc to use blackmail intelligence to make the leaders come to a public agreement while being blackmailed that or do what the cia did back in the day and engage a coup on the govts etc then have pupperts that serve the usa ?

Llttledrummergirl · 08/03/2025 15:52

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:41

for all, im british

And I'm a Martian.

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 15:52

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:43

yes

What blackmail on a personal level? So someone in intelligence gets some dirt on Trudeau’s successor and says if you don’t give us Canada we’ll post the photos of you in blackface/womens underwear for all to see?

because I think most politicians would have the decency to step down or say bring it on rather than literally sell their country out. I also think even if a CanadIan politician tried to go along with such a plot there would be such an outcry from the population they’d be hounded out of office.

Parker231 · 08/03/2025 15:53

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:50

because at a guess and without any assistance, or reseach, surley all the public can do is protest ? but if their govt agrees to trump ? then surley the public will just have to go along with it ? unless theres ways the public can go againts the govt ?

ill admit ive got lots of gaps in my knowledge

As I posted earlier the Canadian and Greenland governments have both said their countries are not for sale. The public wouldn’t need to protect. Their citizenship can’t be taken away from them.

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 15:53

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:51

@CerealPosterHere

honestly, using the cia,nsa, etc to use blackmail intelligence to make the leaders come to a public agreement while being blackmailed that or do what the cia did back in the day and engage a coup on the govts etc then have pupperts that serve the usa ?

Edited

You have watched too many Netflix shows. I’m sorry but this is laughable.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:53

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 15:52

What blackmail on a personal level? So someone in intelligence gets some dirt on Trudeau’s successor and says if you don’t give us Canada we’ll post the photos of you in blackface/womens underwear for all to see?

because I think most politicians would have the decency to step down or say bring it on rather than literally sell their country out. I also think even if a CanadIan politician tried to go along with such a plot there would be such an outcry from the population they’d be hounded out of office.

but then if officially the public did not know all this or depending on the level of scandle etc

Psychostates · 08/03/2025 15:54

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:50

because at a guess and without any assistance, or reseach, surley all the public can do is protest ? but if their govt agrees to trump ? then surley the public will just have to go along with it ? unless theres ways the public can go againts the govt ?

ill admit ive got lots of gaps in my knowledge

Something is off with Loving. There seems more than a few typos in that latest message. Jumbled letters, misspellings; this is a huge contrast to other pieces of lengthy information he/she has posted. An A.I bot, or a translation app perhaps? Something doesn't feel right at all here.

LovingHare · 08/03/2025 15:54

CerealPosterHere · 08/03/2025 15:53

You have watched too many Netflix shows. I’m sorry but this is laughable.

ok cia bay of pigs ?

DuncinToffee · 08/03/2025 15:54

The USA is going to blackmail countries into handing over their sovereignity 😂

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