Wtf is wrong with people when it comes to hidden disabilities?

[Whatthebarnacles]

Full on rant incoming! Ready to be flamed in the depths on MN hell for this but it really is a hill I'm happy to die on so whatever will be, will be!

I'm absolutely sick to the back teeth of certain people on here who eye roll and sneer that those with hidden disabilities should be treated the same as neuro typical people.

Non verbal, lashing out? Report to police for assault - how dare they lay a hand on someone else 🙄

Can't sit still / constantly stims? Expel them from school - why should my "normal child" be affected?🙄

Stares and makes noises? Tell them you're uncomfortable and to stop immediately, we have the right not to be ogled.🙄

Can we please just stop it?! It's like the world's gone mad! All the years of effort to try and make people aware of hidden disabilities just seems to have crumbled an i've seen it happenn in here over the last 6 months or so more than ever. There seems to be an almighty wave of this incredibly farcical "BUT ME AND MINE" or "MY RIGHTS" just smash through the work that had been done and its depressing as shit.

Would you call the police or kick off on someone who spilled a cuppa over you then laughed? Or caught your face , if...

1. They were 4 years old? Nope, so why would you for someone with intellectual disabilities? You would talk to the carer. Rightly so.

1. If they had Parkinsons? Would you bollocks. Because you can SEE that disability and because its a physical one, then it can't be helped, right?

1. They were clearly ND?

There are countless people in here who would because, according to them, they do not have the right / there needs to be consequences / they're an adult regardless / i am woman hear me roar etc.

I cant get my head around the lack of understanding

And don't get me started on those who turn these things into "us women" need to defend ourselves. And faux outrage "would they have done it to a man? I don't think so!" Urgh. Yes... they would. A disability is a disability, a stim is a stim, a jolt is a jolt. Hair is dangly, splashing someone or spilling something is funny, stimming is calming on the inside whilst frantic in the outside.

Frankly, it turns my stomach. Why is the world so angry at people who are different at the moment?!

I can only presume that the number of people now having been diagnosed is pissing these people off. I've honestly never ever heard so much "just because they're xyz doesn't mean that..." in my life. See also "they need to learn" or "they should know"...

I fret for my son growing up in this. He doesn't stand a cat in hells chance.

YABU - Of course ND people, should be treated the same as NT people when it comes to differing behaviour, regardless of mental age or physical disabilities associated with their condition.

YANBU - MN is rife with it at the moment, I've noticed that too.

Annnnnd..... crucify me. GO!!

Your definition doesn’t change the fact that it isn’t odd. And thank you I am well aware of what odd means.

Just very quickly skim googled the percentage of people in prison with learning disabilities. One link said 50% (including dyslexia) another said 30% (not including dyslexia) . Percentage with learning disabilities in the population as a whole was 3%. This was a super quick skim google though and there could be any number of reasons who people are in prison, not just violence. And if disabled people are in prison for violence this could well be because they didn't get early or better help. Also, it assumes numbers up post are correct, they might well be wrong.

I suppose another way to look at this is hospital attendance for violence injury and see if there a break down of if the person is disabled or not. If those stats are even kept.

Who is making anyone feel pressured to do anything? Desperately hunting for drama where there is none.

Dyslexia is a learning difficulty not learning disability and has a prevalence of about 10%.

Percentage with learning disabilities in the population as a whole was 3%.

Learning disability is defined as an IQ more than two standard deviations below the mean, therefore it defines learning disability as an IQ in the lowest 2.3% of the population.

Yes it's a very different thing and unlikely to cause the same kind of behavioural issues as a condition like autism or ADHD.

Yes though it may be a cause for lack of engagement in school

Yes and I have heard of people for whom the dyslexia and lack of engagement with school has led to involvement with gangs and drugs etc.

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What did you do when your son was kicked? Was he a child?**

He was 8, attacked by a child bigger and stronger than all the others in the school. We fought with the school for adequate safeguarding to be put in place, and failed. Since my child was attacked, a teacher has left the school after he broke her nose, a boy was strangled so hard he had red marks left on his neck for hours, another pinned on the ground and pounded in the back of the head. Another teacher attacked in public at drop off. It is horrific that small children have to live with fear.

The school has many ND kids in it. This is the only one whose behaviour poses a risk to others. I can't see any benefit to him being at school. All they are doing are 'kettling' him. This kid is going to end up in jail and no one is doing anything to help him, and in the meanwhile so many others are being damaged.

So anyway, I'm not sure I believe the much sited - disabled people are more like to be victims of violence than perpetrators. Its certainly not what I see in schools.

Yes, why let the evidence base inhibit your personal prejudices.

It’s so easy to demonise disabled people. There have always been violent unpleasant people in school and in our society, only a small percentage of them are disabled. We know that a very high proportion of disabled people are victims of crime.

What evidence?
I looked up percentage of people in prison with learning disabilities/differences and it was much greater than the percentage in wider society.

I think when you are looking for victims of crime you probably look at police records and hospital records. Looking at inmates in prison won’t tell you much about the victims.

https://www.victimsupport.org.uk/press-releases/disabled-people-increased-risk-violent-crime-victim-support-research/

Yes, neurodivergent people are over-represented in the prison population but I am not sure why you think this means they cannot also be over-represented as victims of crime and harassment too. These statements are not mutually exclusive. And you probably want to ask yourself some more questions. The big association in research is actually with traumatic brain injury (47% of all male prisoners). People can become neurodivergent through brain injury.

www.thebraincharity.org.uk/neurodiversity-in-the-criminal-justice-system-helping-prisoners-with-neurological-conditions-get-extra-support/