I'm sorry, with love is meghan is awful

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I tried.

I really did.

But JFC it's absolutely awful.

"Come and watch me make the most basic of crafts while telling me how much you admire me, and I gently patronise you"

Really awful.

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@LipGlossAlly please give the links. I am missing the info you have, and I want to make an informed opinion

I agree with parts of this, I don’t think they have always helped themselves. They could have been more patient and acted in a more strategic way. Lockdown certainly didn’t help.

But I read the other day that Dan Wootton allegedly gave them ten days response time before he broke the story of Megxit, which isn’t a lot if you have to make an appointment see your father and grandmother, and when making such a life-changing decision. It must have been very unsettling finding out that someone in their midst was singing like a canary too.

Decisions made under huge stress and pressure, and against a background of family suspicion and disharmony, are rarely good.

I do have some sympathy for the RF too as it was during the period when Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth were ill and dying and it was presumably in the middle of transfer of power from QEII to KC , when no one quite knew who was making which decisions. However, I think the RF’s very defensive and overly harsh response to Harry was possibly borne out of a feeling of guilt that they had overlooked him somewhat.

Prince William has the prospect of reigning ahead of him, and future glories, if you like that sort of thing, but for Harry, his wedding was his pinnacle.

And then Harry of course responded over-harshly in turn.

This is all sheer speculation on my part mind you.

I’d be happier if we had an elected head of state and we could swerve the public family rows entirely! And we could house a president much more cheaply too.

I don't have the links but the Princes and the Press was broadcast on BBC2 maybe a couple of years ago if I am not mistaken . With regards to the byline investigation you can simply Google it😀

Does that matter as much when it is not being subsidised by the British tax payer?

Nobody was asking for this story though, I wasn’t, no one I know was. I just thought oh ok well good for you, when they left. That was it, nothing more, nothing less and I’m sure most of the general public thought that too. We really weren't chomping at the bit for an Oprah tell-all shit stir. I maintain they could have gone to California without all the shit stirring and she could have done what she’s doing now, but with a whole lot more goodwill.

I have Googled. Can't find the smoking gun, sorry!

Unfortunately, it is not true. The press had already poisoned MM' s image prior to the Oprah interview( maybe not with you).

As I have said this thread was created to discuss people's view on the brand, the show and so on. Why are people continuously bringing up the RF?
No matter our individual point of view on what went down why can't people just accept that this is just a closed chapter. Is in the past. Meghan will probably never cross path with any of them ever again. That relationship is closed. Forever.

Hahahahha.

😂😂 at this because I recently “discovered” her on the Food Network. It’s fascinating for a wide variety of reasons😀😆

I would love to see Max Miller, Tasting History, with a NF show! Great presenter, great content

I think what is SO grating (including some of the posters here) is this absolute assumption that certain behaviours of US individuals, are somehow superior to British culture. There is a love of our culture and history, yet zero tolerance as to what that actually entails.

We don't "press charges" and we have a monarchy. Which is respected although has struggled in the last few decades to keep up with what society holds as a norm.

What is so irritating is when non-British individuals jump onto perceived slights as a threat to their very existence. And totally fucking overreact. As did Meghan. And I know other people personally who have done the same with their litigious actions and self righteous bullshit. We don't behave like that as a society. There used to be at least more tolerance and respect.

Tolerance and respect need to go both ways though.

In what ways do you feel that is not the case? Because as far as I can see it ain't us.

Are you El presidente Trump?

Yes, I think a lot of US exceptionalism in Meghan's criticisms

It is fascinating. I remember watching it once and said to my son, it’s incredible how she can smile and talk at the same time, I don’t think I can lol. The food is pretty stomach churning at times too but I do enjoy watching her.

Anyway, good luck to Meghan, she’s not my cup of tea but I have no investment into her being a failure or a success. I might add my two pence on here but in real life I don’t talk about her at all. In my real life (being a mother, a dog owner and all the normal life stuff) neither she nor the RF are on my radar.

@LipglossAlly it's obvious that you have your own personal agenda and are trying to shepherd people to your way of thinking.

Majority of us just want to discuss the show and are allowed our opinions. I've found a way to get around the irritating music and syrupy banalities by just looking up some recipes and if they take my fancy I might try them. Same as with any recipe. I'm not much interested in the lifestyle aspect.

I might feel differently, but I genuinely don't have anything against people that respect the monarchy as an institution( I surely don't agree that any human has been ordained by God therefore is better than others). At the end of the day is a tradition that has been around for centuries and like it or not it is part of the DNA of this country.

However, people need to realise that the institution that they much respect is made of people.

People are flawed, people make mistakes, some of the people within the institution are probably not good people (like in any other settings).

You can respect the institution of monarchy whilst admitting and coming to terms with the fact that these flawed people engage in family dynamics that we can't fully understand from the outside. We will never fully know what happens behind closed doors, how they treat each other, what they say to each other.

Two individuals denouncing how they have been treated by their family members who happen to be part of the institution shouldn't be seen and treated as a national threat. You can still continue to uphold tradition and the institution even if the current individual components are flawed.

I personally don't, but I live and let live. I don't care one way or another.

Most people feel the same way. But I separate those feelings from the fact that her programme is basically SHIT.

I genuinely don't care about what other people chose to think. I give my opinions and respond to these posts with either facts or with giving my opinion.

If holding a conversation with people that have a different view from you bring you this much anxiety you shouldn't be on a national platform.
It is all fun and games when you are in your little eco- chamber of people that have the same opinions as you. You should not be afraid to engage in conversations with people that may have a different view from you. Why do you feel so threatened?
At the end of the day we can agree to disagree.

The world is not only made of people who dislike MM. Deal with it.

Fair enough , I love it 😂😂

LOVE 😂😂😂😂

@LipglossAlly I didn't say I had high anxiety, you're projecting 😆

I am not interested in going back and forth with this posts. You don't like the programme and the host...and?