I'm sorry, with love is meghan is awful

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I tried.

I really did.

But JFC it's absolutely awful.

"Come and watch me make the most basic of crafts while telling me how much you admire me, and I gently patronise you"

Really awful.

Of course it unnecessary to worry about them.

I am.not sure why you are convinced they are happy, I have no idea whether they are or not.

People who are happy generally don't need the validation of complete strangers, but we are all different.

It seems a bit different from what they envisaged when they first left, but plans evolve, I suppose.

Who knows?

Agree. With time they could have negotiated roles that suited. Other married royals don't seek the same level of publicity. They just get the hell on with it bc they know what they married into. It's so immature to marry into a family and within five minutes slag same family off on tv. I mean talk about shameless. It's so lowbrow. Jeremy Kyle basically with better production values.

What on earth are you going on about?!

I presume it's because everyone who doesn't loathe them somehow works for them according to you?!

Very weird

Oprah must have nearly wet herself when presented with that interview.

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Not weird at all. I feel for them. I think they're both unhappy and damaged individuals bc you don't do what they did otherwise. I don't think they're happy at all. How could you be?

I really value family as such.
However, we' ve got to stop to romanticising dysfunction in the name of " you can't change your family".
I am sure that the decision to distance themselves for the rest of the family was not taken lightly.
They know what they have been through and would act in theirs and their kids interests.

I think many people like to project their misery onto them.

This is something that I have realised by going through these threads( I told you that I have a lot of time on my hands 😂).

They have been through a lot, and I am sure they will have scars.
However, the way there were able to survive all of this both as a couple and as individuals is remarkable.

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@LipglossAlly there really is no point - they cannot conceive of an alternative approach and view.

And yet all too many adults don't act in their children's best interest. Or even their own best interests.

I am a parent by adoption. A good friend is a lawyer who acts for parents where the LA is taking court proceedings (thankfully most children end up within their extended family).

I am.not saying H&M are that troubled. But dysfunction does exist, and there are many, many parents who battle with e.g. substance abuse and mental health, and have quite a distorted view of their situation. It is very sad for all involved.

We are just forgetting the little 8 year gap of full on attacks by an entire media system, people working in the orbit of said family throwing them to the wolves and so forth. Let not forget these miniscule details.

I do wonder where he gets his sense of purpose from. In embracing this new life, he's had to cast of and forget about everyone before it. Not just his family, but all his friends too. Even if it works out forever with Meghan, he's lost so so much.

That's what they claimed. Other people have said they were offered advice but turned it down.

And despite the claims of stories being sold about them to distract from other members of the RF, they haven't been able to say which stories fall in that category.

He doesn't have one: how can you take a man whose whole life has been built on service to an existence which is CaliShit?

I cannot imagine the horror. Nice to go on holiday. But...

To be fair, he still has friends in England, and he is very close to his mother's s side of the family(he had Diana's sisters attending Lily's christening, Charles Spencer and other Spencer family members participating at that ceremony held here in England for the Invictus Game). Again, it very sad that his relationship with is father and his brother will never recover, but Harry seems to still have strong ties with friends and family in England.

I seriously fucking doubt it. I imagine 99% of those friends would be like WTAF harry?

You're clearly not British @LipglossAlly

Could you let us know which stories were given to the press to 'throw them to the wolves'? Because although they have made that accusation (well, Harry has) he hasn't been able to.point to examples to back.up the claim

Not true.
Although he did loose a number of friends that are just not a fit for who he is right now. It is life.

I have started watching the series on the back of the hate threads on MN

I thought it was really nice. Light-hearted, showcasing good food, light conversations and beautiful surroundings. Meghan comes across as exactly who she is - an educated, pleasant, self-made, confident American woman who is aware that a lot of people out there absolutely love to hate her.

I thought the show was more lively than Barefoot Comtessa (deary with dull food), less unsettling than Pioneer Woman (permasmile with carcrash ultra processed ingredients) and thank God it lacked Nigella-style cringeworthy double entendres. Meghan is no chef so the cooking is basic - her strength is in easy tweaks to make simple food very visually appealing. The show doesn't set out to do anything else and it succeeds.

All in all a lovely series to watch for a bit of relief from the horrors of reality. It's miles better than I expected from the overwhelmingly negative press (I'm the in the uk... surprise). The contrast between the tone of the show and the visceral viciousness of some reviews is startling.

Doesn't Charles Spencer live in South Africa these days? Or has he moved back to the UK?

Which marriage is he on these days? Is he on speaking terms with all his children again?

His behaviour as his friends would see it - and trust me I know - would be worrying. The actions of a man not in control of his life and making poor impulsive decisions. They'd be concerned and rightly so. You don't have to be royal to know that torching your relationship with your family for whatever reason and isolating yourself is not the way to good mental health.

Please kindly go and read the byline report.
Please go watch some documentaries such as the Princes and the Press where Don Wootton himself and other members of the press admit that the information that they were being fed was coming directly from the Royal household (this in front of the camera.).