AIBU to be utterly horrified that the US has cut off military aid to Ukraine?

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I was hoping that it was mostly just bluster from Trump. But we've woken up to the news that he has actually done it. He's literally swapped sides in the war and is now standing with the aggressor, Russia, and abandoning the victim, Ukraine.

At least some Americans are speaking out against the decision:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c981p3dxnent?post=asset%3A09fa0e7f-6f1e-4770-9096-c5228d00635f#post

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c981p3dxnent?post=asset%3A8510a9e0-ea40-4895-835d-bb747d6b0339#post

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c981p3dxnent?post=asset%3A43d2db68-32ae-47f3-a550-8a5bd491beb9#post

It's interesting how dismissive of women you incels are.

'moms' 'yes I'm English' 🤔

*haven't

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from everything ive heard from Ukrainians here in UK and also from polls undertaken of ukrainians in ukraine, this idea that he is a "deeply unpopular dictator" simply isn't true??
even politically non-aligning people have a generally positive view of his handling of the situation?
https://www.manchester.ac.uk/about/news/trump-is-making-false-claims-about-zelenskys-popularity/

what are you reading??

So @Shitmonger we are waiting .....apologies if you have as havent caught up the more recent pages

Crakajak · Yesterday 00:35

Zelenski is in year 6 of a 5 year term. He is now unelected thus he's a dictator unlike Putin who was elected by his people. Cope more please.

Ukraine is at war and under martial law. Its constitution states that, under martial law, elections are to be suspended until 6 months after the cessation of hostilities.

All opposition parties are in agreement with this and the populace understand the need for it.

Please don't believe the pathological liar Trump, his mendacious sidekick Vance, nor the delusional, anti science conspiracist RFK.

More unconscionable behaviour by Trump.

What decent person would make it harder for a country to defend itself?

A lot of blood on his hands now.

Blimey!

HopeMumsnet · 06/03/2025 09:17

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I suspect Trump is jealous of Zelenskyy. A courageous, self-confident man who the western world hails as a hero.

Perhaps he even identifies with the older, ailing Putin.

I doubt it.

Are you sure about those figures?

Because I am sure, and you're wrong. About 10k of those were military - Ukrainian and russian invaders.

"Shelling". We see you

And there is nothing MORE nazi than invading and destroying a country, filtration camps, kidnapping of children and erasing a national identity

You appear to be woefully misinformed

Indeed, but we shouldn't give tips on how to appear to be from the UK! let them give themselves away.

Don't be silly. They have all types of backgrounds and religions in the brigade. While they may have been formed 11 years ago (guess why) by the far right, they are now part of the Ukrainian army.

They're russian speakers largely, from Mariupol. You know where Mariupol is, right ? Donbas. The ones the russians are trying to save/liberate

Doh "shelling the Dumbass for 8 years 🤪🤪🤪🤪"

What worries me is that engaging with the utter nonsense and lies being posted on this thread makes them seem as if they were worthy of being debated.

But then, what is the alternative? To let these lies stand undisputed?

Unless there is more moderation or removal of fake information I feel like reading mumsnet or other social media just risks filling one's brain with dross and allowing a mechanism for propaganda and conspiracy theories to spread.

Garbage in, garbage out.

Completely agree

What language? Its not vile either….i should imagine that poster is basing their opinion on your posts

Dangerous disinformation and outright lies on this thread, presented as ‘opinions’. There needs to be tough monitoring as letting it continue is to passively support it.

Seeing as you are so well informed, perhaps you can tell me who it was that forced the peace-loving pacifist Putin to send troops across the border into a soverign country and start bombarding targets inside that country from the air and with missiles? Because it seems to me that that person did the peace-loving Putin a bit of a disservice.

I mean, I know he could have stopped the war any time he liked simply by withdrawing his troops from Ukraine and stopping the assault, but, you know, you've said he hates war, so perhaps you can explain why, every morning since 24 February 2022 when he wakes up, he has made the decision to keep on attacking rather than, you know, just stopping. Clearly the rest of us are missing something.

If Crakajak (interesting spelling) is an English woman I'm from fucking Mars.

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The way the world is.

Although I don’t like Trump and think he’s dangerous what Lewinsky is asking could potentially turn into world war 3.
Europe has been relying for to long on the USA
We need to invest in our own military surely how Trump is acting that should be a wake up call to us all to not rely on other countries,as loyalty can change.
USA citizens I imagine are struggling with the cost of living and maybe want to reduce expenses,usually what they give to others is the first to go.
In the UK foreign aid has been reduced so money could be spent on other things
and a lot of people were in support for that
however that will always come at the expense of countries relying on that.
Who knows what is going to happen,too many think they know what will happen but the truth is no one does. Look at covid so many would now change what they did during that time when at the time they did what they believed was right.
Scary times

The principle of not invading other sovereign nations needs to be protected. I

Maybe Ukraine now regrets giving up its nuclear weapons in the name of peace?