Angela Rayner’s glottal stops are infuriating

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AIBU to be so irritated by the deputy PM’s lazy speech? I was listening to her being interviewed this morning and I was distracted by her Bri-ish/righ-/wai-ed. I googled her and apparently when asking a question about the lockdown parties she said ‘Was you there or not?’
Why does it anger me so much? It is not her accent. I am northern but I don’t drop my t’s and I know when to use was and were.
Her lazy speech distracts from the content. I have my theories but I would love to hear other people’s opinions.

Ray-NER. Not Ray-NOR.

If you are going to criticise aspects of her grammar and speaking etc, you could make the effort to spell her name correctly.

Where on earth did anyone claim that the job of Deputy PM is the only job that is an indicator of intelligence?

Who has said that barristers and astronauts are less intelligent than Angela Rayner?

You are implying that people have said that Angela Rayner is the most intelligent person in the world which would be as ridiculous as the rubbish you are spouting.

We are saying that not having 2 degrees does not mean that Angela Rayner is not intelligent.

It obviously takes some intelligence and lots of guts and determination to rise from her deprived childhood to the role of Deputy PM.

I agree plenty of very intelligent people don't have a degree, but I don't think AR is one of them. I have seen her interviewed many times and she honestly doesn't strike me as being quick witted or that intelligent? She is very obviously uneducated. And I doubt she has much in the way of cultural capital, at all?

I can only think it disadvantages her when mixing with other politicians who are both intelligent & educated.

https://ellieenglish.uk/glottal-stops-in-real-english/
Don’t think OP is being snobby. Nothing to do with accents either. Glottal stops are extremely irritating and make the speaker sound ignorant. The listener finds them grating and they stop the smooth the flow of words.

She’s got enough cultural capital to enjoy Glyndebourne. And got slated for that because apparently she doesn’t belong there.

But she has an education she did go to school and college do you mean she isnt university educated well read maybe moving in the "right circles" ?

OMG yes, she must feel really at a disadvantage when trying to hold her own against the intelligent and educated Lee Anderson and the other Reform clowns.

I am sorry not a fan politically or a labour voter but this is ridiculous she is obviously intelligent to become deputy prime minister after being 16 and pregnant. I think a lot of people are actually secretly jealous because they were raised to think all teen mum's are failures and the worst thing to possibly be, they know they wouldn't of been able to handle it let alone go on to become deputy prime minister.

A male politician wouldn’t get this kind of criticism. He would be down to earth and a man of the people. Her accent (or whatever you want to call it) is constantly criticised, it’s boring. As another poster said, Parliament should reflect wider society.

I like Rayner's accent. But then I like hearing a wider range of accents among politicians generally.

The one I find most irritating is Reeves' flat south London vowels, which are horribly like the awful Croydon accent I grew up surrounded by. Wes Streeting has a similar thing going on, although it's a bit more east than south London, plus he always sounds as though he's about to lose his temper.

Neither of them are as bad as Rees Mogg's affected, pompous drawl though. Thankfully, we hear nothing from him these days, now he's had the boot from the people of N E Somerset.

Yes, I meant it could put her at a disadvantage when conversing with well educated and intelligent graduates from places like Harvard, Yale & Oxbridge.

No, because they are idiots. But, yes I think she would be intellectually out of her depth when conversing with politicians who attended Yale, Harvard and Oxbridge etc.

I actually thinks she manages just fine.

Have you considered that in a different way they are at a disadvantage speaking to her? She's had more real life experience than them. More personal growth. We all have different experiences and going to Harvard isn't the be all and end all

My theory for what it’s worth is that she knows the appeal to voters of being wc and woman next door type. I’m glad she’s comfortable with who she is but it doesn’t hurt to use correct speech patterns.

Ding ding ding, someone hit the irony button again! Person who is ignorant of linguists accuses person who uses a dialectical feature of ignorance. Tiresome.

I honestly don't think that her real life experience counts for much when it comes to the political three ring circus.

That's how I feel about her. No question, she has risen very high but I think she's wheeled out as just window dressing because she's suitably working class and Northern.

I don't see how it doesn't? The fact that she's made it to deputy prime is proof she can hold her own in the three ring circus.

It's colloquialism. Also a northerner. Lots of areas have these colloquialisms. I always say 'should of' instead of 'should have' when speaking as that's how people talk in my area. I would never write 'should of' in an email as I know it is grammatically incorrect.
A working class women has got to deputy prime minister and all other women can do is try to drag her back down again. I'm sarcastically slow clapping you all. 👏you massive bunch of misogynistic bastards!

And to get support from a considerable breadth of the membership of a party as faction-ridden as Labour is quite some achievement. She must certainly have a considerable amount of political nous to do that.

Probably because she isn't from Lancashire

I find pretti Patel harder to listen too and kier himself

@Williamclimbseverest absolutely we should never write people off from whatever backgrounds or how they speak, both ways

It's just an accent. I'm from the north west and find southern accents, e.g. the use of a long 'a' sound odd, so barth not bath etc sounds weird to me

It's not lazy or odd, just not what you're used to hearing in your local accent.

Historically, there have always been a range of accents throughout Britain, but when Caxton invented the printing press in the Oxford/Cambridge/London triangle, text was printed based on that dialect and usage, so it became seen as 'correct' because it was in print.

There is nothing more neutral, or more effort intensive about this accent compared to other parts of the country.

You sound like you have quite a fragile sense of superiority to be honest.