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The tide is turning on Trump

471 replies

ImmediateReaction · 03/03/2025 17:30

  1. CNN now, poll shows majority of Americans disapprove of Trump.
  1. Commentator stated that Trump spoke about his several conversations with Putin and alarm bells ring, because Trump is parroting what Putin says. No independent thoughts?
  1. He comes over as having memory problems. He forgets what he said earlier.
  1. He needs help running press conferences and appears unable to manage without support.

Is he ill?

It's very odd.

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LastTrainsEast · 03/03/2025 22:54

"Is there any mechanism in the US for ousting an unpopular president?"

Not for being unpopular. They did try shooting him before he even started.

He is doing a good job back home and I just wish he'd stayed there and concentrated on that.

It does make sense to stop supporting every other country financially so I can't resent that. Their level of debt is insane,

But the way he's supporting Putin's invasion is concerning. I'm wondering if we will see US troops fighting alongside Russian and then splitting the Ukraine between them.

There's an awful lot of hate being directed at the Ukraine for not surrendering as though they are holding out just to inconvenience the US.

SallyWD · 03/03/2025 22:55

Horriblevirusagain · 03/03/2025 21:46

He is doing very well. And doing everything for the country. From expelling criminals to stopping LGBTQ grooming in schools to stopping males from taking part in women's sports. Also saving billions from fraud. Need him in the UK our once great country is a hovel now full of criminals taking over large areas and a pathetic woke police force arresting you for hurty words instead of cleaning up the streets!

Oh dear God...

Crikeyalmighty · 03/03/2025 22:57

I think the problem is Trump is not dissimilar to around 50% of American men I've met when over there- Aggressive, bullshitter, childish , money obsessed and often not very bright . Therefore he has a natural fanbase . There are plenty of liberal educated too - but not enough of them spread out all over!!

SallyWD · 03/03/2025 22:58

I've just been reading the comments on the Daily Mail article about his recent antics. Usually, mail readers are very pro-Trump. However, nearly every single comment is against him now. Even some Americans saying they're ashamed they voted for him. He's rapidly losing allies and support.

Crikeyalmighty · 03/03/2025 23:11

I just don't think Brits go for really aggressive arse holes with no class'in charge' - there's something really crude and mafia like about him and Vance that won't appeal to the majority of even Mail or Farage fans.

I mean I really think Boris J is a first rate knob but he isn't aggressive and would have had way more manners.

ACynicalDad · 03/03/2025 23:14

We've got 4 years of this; unless the republican party turns on him, opinion polls won't bother him, he can't (as it stands) run again, and they may worry Vance more. Just have to hope the Democrats don't pick another woman for 20 years, as I think the electorate is too misogynistic to allow it and I think the Republicans are too great a wish. NB, I've no problem with female PMs etc, I just recognise the two times Trump won were against women who were way better qualified.

ODFOx · 03/03/2025 23:19

The mechanism to get rid is called the Second Amendment to the US constitution. It gives rights to bear arms to everyone to maintain a free state in case the militia (ie government) no longer protects the will of the people.

NewMarmiteJar · 03/03/2025 23:23

CharlotteCChapel · 03/03/2025 22:50

I've noticed a pushback today. An army band played a song about people fighting a dictator in front of Trump.

Stories are coming in about Trump voters being sacked from government jobs, they didn't think it would happen to them.

A texas politician gave a speech that accused the minority damaging the US weren't immigrants or single parents but billionaires. He got a standing ovation.

helped my genuine anxiety a bit.

tallhotpinkflamingo · 03/03/2025 23:29

If you're talking about him "forgetting" he said Zelensky was a dictator, that was a bad joke.

I don't think he forgets things, I think he's very easily influenced and he judges people based on their money not anything else.

AshKeys · 03/03/2025 23:29

KnickerlessParsons · 03/03/2025 18:32

Is there any mechanism in the US for ousting an unpopular president?

Yes - a presidential election in three and a half years time

OneLemonDog · 03/03/2025 23:36

AshKeys · 03/03/2025 23:29

Yes - a presidential election in three and a half years time

Love that optimism!

AshKeys · 03/03/2025 23:40

The USA as a democracy is over.

Amazing the number of democrats supporters who think democracy is over because they don’t like the fact they lost an election and on this thread suggesting assassinating a democratically elected president is somehow legitimate response.

as for polling being unbiased….

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Willyoujustbequiet · 03/03/2025 23:43

Yes it's definitely shifting against him from talking to friends in the US and my social media.

Obviously he has his hardcore loonies but many republicans were appalled and embarrassed by the Whitehouse debacle, they don't want a lapdog to Putin. Also the doge cuts are starting to hit home and the penny is dropping.

OneLemonDog · 03/03/2025 23:44

AshKeys · 03/03/2025 23:40

The USA as a democracy is over.

Amazing the number of democrats supporters who think democracy is over because they don’t like the fact they lost an election and on this thread suggesting assassinating a democratically elected president is somehow legitimate response.

as for polling being unbiased….

People are saying democracy in the US is over (which is premature but might well prove true) is they either don't believe the US will have another free and fair election or, if it does, that Trump wouldn't respect the results if he loses (and this time, would not leave office).

Every single opinion poll has some inherent bias but the CNN ones have proven very accurate in the past, including showing Trump as the likely 2024 winner.

AshKeys · 03/03/2025 23:46

OneLemonDog · 03/03/2025 23:44

People are saying democracy in the US is over (which is premature but might well prove true) is they either don't believe the US will have another free and fair election or, if it does, that Trump wouldn't respect the results if he loses (and this time, would not leave office).

Every single opinion poll has some inherent bias but the CNN ones have proven very accurate in the past, including showing Trump as the likely 2024 winner.

Yet they don’t seem prepared to respect the results of the last one….

KimberleyClark · 03/03/2025 23:48

28Fluctuations · 03/03/2025 20:29

Why do people keep treating the US like its just going through a bad patch and everything will go back to normal after 4 years? This is the America the voters wanted. It's his 2nd term...it was dead clear what they were voting for.

He has immunity from prosecution. He has the courts in his pocket. Republicans have fallen into line behind him. Voting rights are being restricted and constrained. The Constitution means nothing to him.

The USA as a democracy is over. We should all catch up with that reality.

His popularity - or lack of it - is meaningless. No one is shifting him.

The presidential oath of office he took at his inauguration includes the words

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

He has broken that oath. The presidential oath of office means nothing any more.

AshKeys · 03/03/2025 23:52

If we could get rid of duly elected leaders because they were unpopular post election we wouldn’t still have Kier Starmer. But that is not how elections work.

OneLemonDog · 03/03/2025 23:55

AshKeys · 03/03/2025 23:46

Yet they don’t seem prepared to respect the results of the last one….

If anyone if genuinely calling for Trump's assassination, that is of course undemocratic. I suspect that is not the case, though, and posters are giving a trite response to the OP's question.

Also, there's a difference between random people (probably not even American citizens) not respecting democracy versus a president not doing so.

KenAdams · 04/03/2025 00:16

askmenow · 03/03/2025 21:12

Exactly this 👆
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I think the woke Uni educated lefties should get over themselves.
The man is a mover and shaker. And don’t we need one of those over here in the UK before the country goes down the tubes.
Starmer, the farmer harmer, will lead us into a war.

He can’t protect our own borders let alone anyone else’s. But he’s happy to send your young sons into harms way.

Oh hmmm I forgot…. Of course it will be the plebs that will end up protecting Ukraine not the precious sons of the woke glitterati spouting bile against the US President.

Don’t listen to what he says, watch what he does!

The US will forge ahead while we become a third world country led by incompetents.

Another reminder, if it were needed, not to send your children to either the School of Hard Knocks or the University of Life.

PandaTime · 04/03/2025 01:43

Give it time. When Americans continue to live and die in poverty, and suffer because they cannot afford medical treatment, and the cost of living increases while pay and job opportunity stays low, and the fingers of blame turn to point at the poorest and weakest of society because there are no immigrants or wars to blame it on anymore, they might finally wake up and realise how fucking corrupt their country is. The rich will get richer while the poor keep suffering.

TempestTost · 04/03/2025 01:46

I think a lot of people are skeptical of what he's doing with Russia, even if they agree the situation with the Ukraine is unsustainable, or that they shouldn't be involved.

But it could change easily if the situation changes.

JanglingJack · 04/03/2025 02:35

I've voted YABU because the dickhead has only just started a four year term. It's a bit late for the tide turning whatever your opinion.

2021x · 04/03/2025 02:39

It doesn't matter if he is unpopular.. technically he can't run again, but you also can't try and overturn an election and expect to be made president again but he did.

He will just make as much money for himself as he can, living rent free at the expense off the taxpayer over the next 4 years, then at the next election we will really see democracy is dead in the US.

Dogaredabomb · 04/03/2025 02:47

I think he's pretty popular with the Average Joe in the flyover states. I see a full term of Trump ahead, scarily.

Dogaredabomb · 04/03/2025 02:48

PandaTime · 04/03/2025 01:43

Give it time. When Americans continue to live and die in poverty, and suffer because they cannot afford medical treatment, and the cost of living increases while pay and job opportunity stays low, and the fingers of blame turn to point at the poorest and weakest of society because there are no immigrants or wars to blame it on anymore, they might finally wake up and realise how fucking corrupt their country is. The rich will get richer while the poor keep suffering.

We have that here and nothing changes.

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