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Middle-aged professional women doing drugs on the weekend

542 replies

Snookerfan · 02/03/2025 22:12

Is this common now? I was invited to a house party Saturday night and snow was being done quite openly, there were also Mary Jane vapes and Ecstasy passed around.

These were mainly mothers with adult grown sensible families. What is going on, am I totally not with it?

Was it always this way or is this scene infiltrating a different demographic now?

We always knew people like this did this, but was it this open and accepted?

I didn’t partake, still a great night.

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KidsDoBetter · 02/03/2025 23:13

Red0 · 02/03/2025 23:11

I continue to be shocked that parents in their 40s with primary school aged children - professional people, outwardly sensible nice people - are sniffing cocaine on a weekend including back home after an evening out, taking pills when it’s a bigger night out, taking a line here and there on a random weekday night at the pub. These are parents I see at school that I would never suspect, but through mutual friends, I know a lot more about them then they realise!

I’m sure they couldn’t give two shits.

Janedoe82 · 02/03/2025 23:14

Common in the very deprived area in which I work but they are using as a coping mechanism for trauma. Not middle class professionals.
can’t fathom why anyone from the latter would want to glamorise such sad and truly harmful behaviour. I hate drugs having seen the devastation caused.

KatyaKabanova · 02/03/2025 23:14

KidsDoBetter · 02/03/2025 23:12

Cheese is another street name for Monkey Dust. V popular in Stoke apparently

Stoke surely is the epicentre of great things. They have a very big Primark.

Ohapal · 02/03/2025 23:14

hellywelly3 · 02/03/2025 23:12

Suppose if they had their kids in their 20’s it’s probably a bit about reclaiming a bit of lost youth.

I think it's more that they are just bellends tbh

Bluh · 02/03/2025 23:16

I find it really interesting that alcohol is practically a national pastime. Yet drugs taken recreationally, which time and time again have been proven to be not as harmful, are vilified. It’s a bizarre and uneducated position to take

sparrowflewdown · 02/03/2025 23:17

That's interesting so many songs have Mary Jane in them from the 60s early 70s - I had no idea. I thought they were singing about a woman. Nick Drake's one springs to mind. My DD even said why do they all sing about Mary Jane - who is she? Grin

Janedoe82 · 02/03/2025 23:17

Bluh · 02/03/2025 23:16

I find it really interesting that alcohol is practically a national pastime. Yet drugs taken recreationally, which time and time again have been proven to be not as harmful, are vilified. It’s a bizarre and uneducated position to take

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You clearly haven’t spent much time with drug addicts.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 02/03/2025 23:19

stanleypops66 · 02/03/2025 22:39

I've been around people (acquaintances) who were seemingly 'respectable', 'middle class' people with professional jobs (headteachers/ solicitors etc) and they were all snorting coke and taking e's. They're all parents though kids weren't there. I was a bit surprised and I didn't think I was naive.

I did it all when I was late teens/ early twenties but would never touch it now. I wouldn't want to but even I if I did I could lose my career.

Exactly - aren't those people concerned abou the risks to their career? If DH was involved in any of that lifestyle he would lose his job straight away, we would be fucked. Me too actually.

Ohapal · 02/03/2025 23:19

Bluh · 02/03/2025 23:16

I find it really interesting that alcohol is practically a national pastime. Yet drugs taken recreationally, which time and time again have been proven to be not as harmful, are vilified. It’s a bizarre and uneducated position to take

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What about the legalities of alcohol and drugs? Do you not think that is pretty relevant?

LBFseBrom · 02/03/2025 23:19

I didn't know you could get marijuana flavoured vapes.

Yes, it has always been done, especially coke. Nothing new about it at all, it was rife in the 1980s and 90s.

Bluh · 02/03/2025 23:21

@Janedoe82 no, I haven’t. But I believe this post is about people who take drugs recreationally and not addicts. Same as a post about drinking with friends isn’t about alcoholics. And people don’t respond as such.

Taken sensibly drugs are not worse than alcohol - and that has been proven time and time again. Indeed by the government’s own drugs Czar David Nutt.

I don’t care if people drink or don’t drink, take drugs or don’t take drugs. It just screams uneducated to cry about the difference when there isn’t one

Oxgodby · 02/03/2025 23:22

PonyPatter44 · 02/03/2025 22:58

Never been any less tedious, though. I bet they all feel so WILD when they're at it.

I genuinely don’t see it as any more or less ‘tedious’ now than in the past, or depending on the age group doing it.

Red0 · 02/03/2025 23:23

KidsDoBetter · 02/03/2025 23:13

I’m sure they couldn’t give two shits.

Actually knowing these people I think they would probably be quite embarrassed if they found out that people outside of their circle knew about this. Who wouldn’t be really? Trying to come across as all sensible, sometimes twee Mother Earth types, professionals, PTA parents - who wouldn’t be embarrassed? Otherwise they’d be more open about it surely? You’re not really going to come across as a great parent - I know I wouldn’t feel comfortable having my DC going to these particular parents houses. I doubt they’ll be snorting coke during a play date, but makes me question their parenting when they come home from a night out, send the babysitter home then sit round taking cocaine with their mates while their kids sleep upstairs. I’d say they probably would give a shit if they found out teachers and other parents knew they did that.

FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 02/03/2025 23:24

Not so unusual from what I've seen... Middle aged professionals (and finance bros) are the only ones who can afford cocaine these days

I am personally against it due to ethics, rather than the drug itself. Not sure I could be friends with people who don't understand or acknowledge the devastation of a drugs journey from production to trafficking to distribition.

I'm a buzz kill, I know. Lol

friendlycat · 02/03/2025 23:25

Bluh · 02/03/2025 22:55

The only thing I’ve noticed is that now the children are all older and independent, some friends are more likely to enjoy wine more than perhaps before. Where as they might have just had one glass they’re more open to say three glasses etc.

wtf. 3 glasses. You’re off your fucking head @friendlycat and I hope they take your adult kids away

Ok I did really want to say they’re more open to having a bottle of wine each over a lunch or supper, but I know on MN that’s very much frowned upon! 😀

Marmiteontoastgirlie · 02/03/2025 23:26

Red0 · 02/03/2025 23:23

Actually knowing these people I think they would probably be quite embarrassed if they found out that people outside of their circle knew about this. Who wouldn’t be really? Trying to come across as all sensible, sometimes twee Mother Earth types, professionals, PTA parents - who wouldn’t be embarrassed? Otherwise they’d be more open about it surely? You’re not really going to come across as a great parent - I know I wouldn’t feel comfortable having my DC going to these particular parents houses. I doubt they’ll be snorting coke during a play date, but makes me question their parenting when they come home from a night out, send the babysitter home then sit round taking cocaine with their mates while their kids sleep upstairs. I’d say they probably would give a shit if they found out teachers and other parents knew they did that.

I don’t think they’d be embarrassed as they wouldn’t view it as something embarrassing due to it being extremely normal behaviour in their social circles. They would probably be concerned from a privacy perspective though.

Imsodepressediactlikeitsmybirthday · 02/03/2025 23:26

Oh, my love.

I am an incredibly intelligent and successful person, living a very quiet life… Now.

But. Cocaine ruined my life, got me into debt, made my mental health go to shit, and just genuinely fucked everything up for me during the breaks between lockdowns. And I was closer to my 30s than my 20s. I thought I was sensible and reasonable.

Loneliness led to bad friends. One bad friend led to another. One line led to another. My love, never ever ever ever do it. It is a road to nowhere and I got out, but many did not.

Janedoe82 · 02/03/2025 23:27

Bluh · 02/03/2025 23:21

@Janedoe82 no, I haven’t. But I believe this post is about people who take drugs recreationally and not addicts. Same as a post about drinking with friends isn’t about alcoholics. And people don’t respond as such.

Taken sensibly drugs are not worse than alcohol - and that has been proven time and time again. Indeed by the government’s own drugs Czar David Nutt.

I don’t care if people drink or don’t drink, take drugs or don’t take drugs. It just screams uneducated to cry about the difference when there isn’t one

A bottle of wine is absolutely not the same as smoking crack.
Cannabis can have very serious impact on those who already have poor mental health.
No one knows what drugs are cut with hence them being way more risky.
I work with drug addicts on a daily basis- they all started as teens as ‘recreational’ users. Their lives are now destroyed- kids removed, not a pot to piss in and mental health in bits on the days they do manage to not use.

Notfromhere5 · 02/03/2025 23:28

I've literally just finished watching a documentary about violence in Sweden, due to the prevalence of drugs. It's honestly chilling. I'd be asking anyone to reconsider their drug usage, or at least try to think about what their money is being used for.

It might seem a bit of fun in a middle class life. Meanwhile kids are getting shot if they try to leave the drug gangs, innocents get killed in crossfire and violence spreads like wildfire. Easy to ignore when not at your doorstep but it's closer than you think.

Red0 · 02/03/2025 23:30

Marmiteontoastgirlie · 02/03/2025 23:26

I don’t think they’d be embarrassed as they wouldn’t view it as something embarrassing due to it being extremely normal behaviour in their social circles. They would probably be concerned from a privacy perspective though.

Evidently wouldn’t be embarrassed to do it with their mates no otherwise they wouldn’t be doing it, But they’d be embarrassed to know other people knew they were doing it (people they portray themselves rather differently to and want to keep that facade with) otherwise they’d be saying “oh yeh going out tonight for a few drinks then home home for a few lines. You?”

Bluh · 02/03/2025 23:30

But this thread isn’t about taking crack?

and of course all drug addicts started….not as drug addicts. But by that logic you’d be intercepting everyone ordering a wine in case they ended up drinking at 8am with their cornflakes. Have a grown up think here.!

WorkHardPlay · 02/03/2025 23:30

I’m actually more surprised at the amount of people who don’t seem to believe or understand this post, and are making fun of the OP, when actually, they’re the ones who seem to be living in the past. To be clear, OP isn’t from the 70’s - ‘Mary Jane Vapes’ is a brand name for a very expensive UK atomiser for cannabis.

And for those who don’t seem to know - yes, there has actually been a huge uptake of drugs in the middle classes. Mushrooms especially are now the ‘yummy mummy’ drug of choice, presumably aligning with the rise in ‘micro-dosing’. Yes, rather than a few bottles of wine, you’ll find a lot of the middle class/upper class mums are doing shrooms and cannabis as standard at their get togethers.

Franjipanl8r · 02/03/2025 23:30

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 02/03/2025 22:26

Were they Sex People Elaine?

🤣🤣🤣

PrimitivePerson · 02/03/2025 23:30

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 02/03/2025 22:26

Were they Sex People Elaine?

No thank you, I'm not going to join in your sex festival!

Bluh · 02/03/2025 23:30

Notfromhere5 · 02/03/2025 23:28

I've literally just finished watching a documentary about violence in Sweden, due to the prevalence of drugs. It's honestly chilling. I'd be asking anyone to reconsider their drug usage, or at least try to think about what their money is being used for.

It might seem a bit of fun in a middle class life. Meanwhile kids are getting shot if they try to leave the drug gangs, innocents get killed in crossfire and violence spreads like wildfire. Easy to ignore when not at your doorstep but it's closer than you think.

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And hard yes. Legalisation of drugs would stop all these issues and we should all be asking for it like this