Middle-aged professional women doing drugs on the weekend

[Snookerfan]

Is this common now? I was invited to a house party Saturday night and snow was being done quite openly, there were also Mary Jane vapes and Ecstasy passed around.

These were mainly mothers with adult grown sensible families. What is going on, am I totally not with it?

Was it always this way or is this scene infiltrating a different demographic now?

We always knew people like this did this, but was it this open and accepted?

I didn’t partake, still a great night.

Ah, now this is an interesting development. The respectable mothers, the career women, the PTA veterans swapping Sauvignon Blanc for something with a little more… kick. Some might clutch their pearls, but let’s be honest: this isn’t new. The only thing that’s changed is the lighting. What once happened in dimly lit clubs, behind velvet ropes, now unfolds over granite countertops in suburban kitchens.

You see, power is not just about status, wealth, or influence. It’s also about freedom the freedom to indulge, to break the rules, to dance along the edges of excess without consequence. For years, this kind of behavior was the domain of rock stars, Wall Street wolves, and reckless youth. But now? The middle-aged professional woman has carved out her own space. She’s spent decades playing by the rules career, family, responsibility and now she’s realized something that men in boardrooms have always known: the game is rigged, so why not write your own rules?

The real question isn’t why they’re doing it. It’s why now? Maybe it’s rebellion. Maybe it’s escape. Or maybe, just maybe, it’s the realization that control over one’s life isn’t just about respectability it’s about indulgence, too. And as long as they keep their families intact, their careers afloat, and their reputations spotless, who’s really going to stop them? Society turns a blind eye to power when it’s wielded discreetly.

So no, you’re not out of touch. You’ve simply witnessed a demographic wake up to an old truth: The real privilege in this world isn’t money. It’s the ability to misbehave…

And those who misbehave do so because they have don’t have to worry about the consequences because they have money.

One of my ex colleagues just died, she was only 53 and as a vulnerable lady with schizophrenia, was being cuckoo'ed by a drugs gang who made out they were her mates. She was heavily using their cannabis herself which made her psychosis worse. Sadly no one could help because she wouldn't allow it & was deemed to 'have capacity'.

This is the reality of where your middle class drugs come from.

Yep. Hate them. They’re all bastards, every single last one of them. Up the workers ✊

Four paragraphs. All relevant to the thread and, in my opinion and experience, fairly accurate. You’ve completely ignored the bits about decriminalisation or legalisation of drugs and have chosen to be offended on behalf of a group of people you claim you wouldn’t choose to associate with. If you have nothing more useful to contribute in response than offence, then I’ll be honest; I do not care that you are offended and cannot be arsed to correct your assumptions. People who take drugs at dinner parties while acting as though they are beyond reproach the rest of the time are hypocritical arseholes.

You risk having your dc taken away if you do coke, ketamine, weed etc. They can tell months, years later from hair strand testing. Just takes one word from a friend, neighbour, dealer, your own dc, school if they suspect. But the saddest thing I think is having your parent drop dead suddenly from using coke. It’s shameful, embarrassing, there’s a stoney silence. No flowers, donations, no colleagues at the funeral. People distance themselves. They aren’t remembered for all the good they did, it’s horrible for those left behind.

You think I’m attacking the class rather than the behaviour? Did you actually read what I wrote? Or did you get halfway through the first sentence and decide you couldn’t be bothered to go any further?

@WilfredsPies What ? I didn’t say I don’t associate with middle class people. I meant I wouldn’t associate with people who “bragged” about taking drugs. I would find that boring and tiresome , regardless of their class.

@WilfredsPies It’s all the irrelevant generalisations you made such as “thinking you’re all so liberal and socially aware” How do you know what people are thinking ? Not all drug users are liberal or claim to be socially aware.

The thing is someone who gets pregnant at 15 and becomes a mum at 16 is likely to be as vulnerable as the kids who get mixed up in county lines, they just don't realise it. The difference between the 16 year old mum and the county lines teens is that it isn't a crime to be a young mum and there is financial support and help once they find themselves in that situation. Often the county lines kids are sucked in at a young age before they've even realised what's happening, and once they realise the path they're on, then they're in way over their heads with threats to family and themselves, that it's very difficult to get out. It becomes their life. There is no financial help and they feel there is nowhere to turn - they feel it's a hopeless situation.

Years ago a pregnant 15 year old might have had a backstreet abortion, or been sent away to a home for unmarried pregnant girls and been subject to forced adoption. They might have felt hopeless too.

🤦‍♀️ Again, I’m attacking the behaviour, not the class. I said ‘You’ve completely ignored the bits about decriminalisation or legalisation of drugs and have chosen to be offended on behalf of a group of people you claim you wouldn’t choose to associate with’ meaning people who take drugs. Who even mentioned anything about you not associating with middle class people? You are so determined to be offended that you’re not digesting what I’ve actually said.

It’s all the irrelevant generalisations you made such as “thinking you’re all so liberal and socially aware” How do you know what people are thinking ? Not all drug users are liberal or claim to be socially aware. It is a pretty accurate stereotype of the sort of people who act like their shit doesn’t smell, before shovelling coke up their noses with their professional friends though, don’t you think?

I also find it quite interesting that you’ve jumped on my post to criticise it and chosen to ignore the 16 separate posters who made references to the middle classes before my post. Was it my swearing that bothered you? Did I offend your sensibilities?

What's Mary Jane

@WilfredsPies Yes exactly. It is a stereotype that you are describing. You also made comments earlier that working class middle aged people don’t brag about taking drugs at the weekend. Which isn’t true.and which you seem to have forgotten you said. I’m not offended, I just thought your post was angry and silly and presumptuous.

In an area of £50k population, in a MC area, there will be about 400 children in care placements. Those are mostly due to drugs, then domestic violence and alcohol. But mostly drugs. Some of those individual placements for one dc can cost £20k a week because of the extreme trauma they endure. Drug use costs us in council tax millions. It’s phenomenal. So to pretend your little bit on the side is harmless is utter bullshit. It’s a huge, huge problem that causes those that don’t partake huge costs. To pretend you aren’t part of the problem is absurd. You live in a self entitled bubble whatever you deem your class.

Cheaper than mounjaro.

Canape? Good god no, I've got lockjaw.

Bit shit for the kids forced into county lines gangs though. Hard to ignore the ethical issues imo.

The older I have got the more I realise how many people openly and regularly take drugs. The older I get the more open it seems to be.
I work for the NHS and j can't remember the last work do where it wasn't the 'norm'.

people really shouldn’t be taking alcohol either for the same reason. It costs the taxpayer millions for all the treatments for alcohol related diseases plus all the accidents, damage and deaths that are caused by alcohol. So most of the country live in a self entitled bubble it seems, supporting the alcohol industries.

It's not legal, it's a class B drug. I actually think drugs should be legalised but not for the middle classes to piss about on. Instead I think it's so drugs profitering could be eliminated, county lines reduced and environmental terrorism suspended - although I admit I have a rudimentary knowledge of all this. I also think there's huge scope to help people hooked on drugs like heroin, which - let's face it - does kill vast numbers. Needle exchanges etc would be a start. Frankly I couldn't give a fuck about middle class people shoving coke up their noses at 45 and thinking they're edgy because of it.

It’s not nearly as bad as drugs.

Cannabis is not legal for recreational use, you can however easily obtain it legally if you get a private prescription. A private prescription is very easy to obtain.
I appreciate you don't agree with me but I would say that it's de facto legal for recreational use given how easy it is to obtain for medical use.

A private prescription for very specific medical uses, that's very rarely granted. That's hardly the same. It's not like you could go to a GP and get it because you wanted to get high, is it? You'd need a specialist consultant who'd provided cannabis oil.

Sorry still don't feel sorry for the little shits.
Obviously getting pregnant at 15 is not a crime it's my business and I've never harmed anyone else unlike these "kids" who get so much sympathy on this thread the same kids who beat up other kids just for looking at them, cause so much trouble no one can walk through town centres past 6pm and have hospitalised old people. 95% of these kids knew exactly what they were getting into.

I think you'll find the main difference between a teen mum and a teen involved in county lines is you'd be safe in a room with me when I was 15

I disagree with that as a general statement. Some drugs are worse than others. Alcohol is a drug. And a very harmful drug at that.

You don’t work in social services then,

My post was angry because it is something that angers me. If it doesn’t anger you then that’s on your conscience and no concern of mine.

It is a stereotype that you are describing I repeat, it is a pretty accurate stereotype of the sort of people who act like their shit doesn’t smell, before shovelling coke up their noses with their professional friends though.

You also made comments earlier that working class middle aged people don’t brag about taking drugs at the weekend. Which isn’t true.and which you seem to have forgotten you said Why would you think I’d forgotten I said it? Would you like me to give a précis of my posting history every time I reply to you to prove I remember my own posts? And as I also said, drug abuse occurs in every section of life, but she refers to a politician, a magistrate and a teacher. How many of the guests there would you be willing to bet live on a council estate or work in minimum wage jobs? How many supermarket workers etc spend their working weeks acting like they are pillars of the community before shoving coke up their noses? The entire thread, and all the similar threads that pop up on here from time to time are always about professional, middle class people taking drugs at social events. Can you really not see the hypocrisy there? Are you friends with a single person who openly admits to not giving a shit about the environment? Or people trafficking? Or social issues in the UK?

I’m not offended, I just thought your post was angry and silly and presumptuous And you’re welcome to think that. I think something quite similar about your posts. But I’m pretty sure that we’ll both sleep soundly tonight without letting it bother either of us too much.