Middle-aged professional women doing drugs on the weekend

[Snookerfan]

Is this common now? I was invited to a house party Saturday night and snow was being done quite openly, there were also Mary Jane vapes and Ecstasy passed around.

These were mainly mothers with adult grown sensible families. What is going on, am I totally not with it?

Was it always this way or is this scene infiltrating a different demographic now?

We always knew people like this did this, but was it this open and accepted?

I didn’t partake, still a great night.

I do agree the posters were cringy for mocking OP because they didn't know what they were.

I don’t but it wouldn’t bother me. Probably trying to regain some sense of freedom and youth after years of childcare responsibilities. I’m definitely looking forward to being able to party/ get drunk again once DC are older.

Not successfully they don't.

"Harm reduction" is often very far from it, and while maybe people don't care much about the users themselves, who have presumably reconciled themselves to their situation, it very much impacts the communities they live in.

I’m really contemptuous of middle class adults taking drugs at social occasions. Thinking you’re all so liberal, so environmentally aware and conscious of poverty and social disparity. Then pretending to be living dangerously at the weekends while simultaneously panicking at the thought of having to live anywhere near a council estate or that you’ll have to send your precious darlings to the same school as kids who qualify for free school meals if you can’t afford the school fees. The addicts might be directly responsible for higher levels of crime than your friends, Max and Caroline, in their modernised Victorian terrace, but fuck me, they’re far more honest about life than you lot are. And they’ve usually got more of a reason for wanting to block life out as well. Your hypocrisy is repugnant.

And I cannot imagine a more stupid and ill thought out idea than legalising drugs. If it’s worked abroad, it’s because possession for personal use has been decriminalised, so addicts are less likely to face long term employment issues due to a conviction for possession and they’ll be more likely to seek medical help if required, and the State has spent a ton of money improving detox facilities. We can’t afford to send ambulances out for pensioners laying on a rainy pavement with a broken hip, or people who want to commit suicide. You think we can afford to fund detox for addicts who don’t want to get clean? Or a ton of civil servants to monitor supply chains?

And all these criminals quite happy to break the law to make serious cash by smuggling their drugs into the country, cutting it with Christ knows what to make it go further, and forcing kids into selling it for them are not suddenly going to become law abiding citizens, complying with tax and import duty as well as spending their profits to improve production quality requirements so it can be distributed safely 🤦‍♀️ They’re not going to give up their livelihoods and get a job in the local supermarket, or start again from scratch smuggling into a different country. They’re going to continue smuggling it in, and cutting it even more so they can undercut legal ways of purchasing it. And gang members are never going to stop looking for the easiest way to make as much cash as possible.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/07/07/portugal-drugs-decriminalization-heroin-crack/ and https://www.politico.eu/article/why-portland-failed-where-portugal-succeeded-in-decriminalizing-drugs/ Surprise, addicts aren’t staying in their homes to take their drugs. They’re smoking and injecting in the street and outside primary schools. Fancy climbing over an unconscious addict on your way into your Pilates class? Or having your five year old wandering over to you in the park with a crack pipe in their hand to ask what it is?

It’s not working that well in BC either https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68621012

And legalising cannabis didn’t work too well in Ecuador or Thailand.

Yeah, it’s great that it’s so cheap these days, and it’s so much better for you than alcohol.

I mean, fuck the HGV driver who suddenly owes some very dangerous people more money than he’ll earn in his lifetime, even without the prison sentence, because Border Force have searched his load. Or the poor sod who has carried it into the UK in their belly. Or the teenager who has had it stuffed up his arse to get it from one dealer to another. Just so long as you have fun at the weekend, eh?

https://www.unodc.org/southasia/frontpage/2012/october/drug-mules_-swallowed-by-the-illicit-drug-trade.html

@WilfredsPies you have gone on a rant here about middle class people that is presumptuous and off topic.

So if we make all drugs legal and have companies producing and selling them (and advertising?) what's the safe dose? Are they responsible if someone overdoses?

I don’t see what is particularly cringy about that. There are millions of brands of vaporisers. It’s not common for people to know the brands of weed vapes going around. And op didn’t correct anyone anyway if that is what she meant.

Perhaps presumptuous, but you never hear middle aged supermarket workers or taxi drivers or delivery drivers or call centre workers bragging about having had a crafty couple of lines at their friend’s dinner party, do you?

Definitely not off topic. Part of the reason it’s so pathetic is that these people do everything they can to prevent that world from coming anywhere near their little bubble, until they want a bit of safe excitement, and then all of a sudden, they’re all for it, and fuck the people it hurts. The hypocrisy is sickening.

They didn't even acknowledge she was referencing a vape brand in their hurry to mock. It's not 'if' it was meant. It absolutely is what she meant, it's written "Mary Jane vapes". It is cringey to try and mock someone where in fact you're (the reader) the one who doesn't know that they're a thing. Also,they are not a standard vape.

@WilfredsPies I don’t think it’s only middle class people in this age group abusing drugs. But I don’t hear anyone bragging about it, I wouldn’t associate with such people myself

I said there are millions of brands of weed vaporisers. It’s not “out of the loop” to not be aware of all of them.

@rightinthedavinamccalls why would they acknowledge it if they didn’t know. You sound a bit cringey yourself tbh

Wait what??? I work in a supermarket and always hear people bragging about their weekend antics yes even the middle aged ones😂surely you're joking if you think it's just "professionals"

How so?

Canada is doing fine with legalizing weed.
For some of us it’s a huge help for our health.

Why shouldn’t marijuana be legal?

I don’t know what snow or Mary Jane vapes are…

Bit is is quite common in my similar demographic for people to forgo drinking and have a THC vape and perhaps a mushroom tea.

I prefer THC vapes to drinking personally, haven’t darent done mushrooms but as long as everyone is consenting and there is no child neglect, or addiction, let them crack on.

Of course not. Drug abuse invades every walk of life, obviously. But the thread title is ‘middle added professional women doing drugs on the weekend’. Nothing you’ve said makes me doubt or want to change anything I’ve said.

I’ll be honest although I don’t do drugs. I know a lot of people in their 50’s who do and I’m surprised how common it is among that age group.

I will say that I do go to a lot of dance music events which possibly means there’s a higher number of people who’ve taken drugs for years but I’d say from my extended circle, around 75% probably take pills on a night out.

No one brags about it though and I’d say it’s fine reasonably discreetly in most cases.

Because it’s shit to live in a house that stinks of weed with stoned parents as a dc. Let’s face it most people would look down on you and avoid you as a dc. You can’t be getting an emotionally present parent who puts your needs first.,

You seem to talking about drug addiction and not casual use.

That’s like comparing weekend wine drinkers with alcoholics.

Of course any kind of addict isn’t a good parent, and I don’t know anyone who smokes indoors.
Many take edibles like me.

So is the argument it shouldn’t be legal because some might become addicts?

Should we ban alcohol? Junk food? Those things are also addictive.

I’m not talking about legalising or decriminalising weed. I’m talking about Class A. I do have concerns about the impact on mental health, and the increase in use by young children (as do Ecuador & Thailand) and, currently, the impact on young men trafficked and locked into houses to care for the plants. But I think that the medical benefits of marijuana should be researched far more thoroughly and be made far more available to people who need it.

I work in social services. It’s a massive, expensive, traumatic problem, if you legalise weed most won’t secretly use edibles.

You sound like you have a serious chip on your shoulder about middle class people.

Agreed. The poster seems to think attacking a whole swathe of people based on their perceived class is somehow ok. It’s gross