To be jealous of everyone getting slim in weight loss jabs while I get fatter !

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Okay - lighthearted ? Maybe.

I’ve been lucky to grow up and be a size 10 . Had a baby at 27. Lost all the weight but my body changed. Baby 2 , again gained 4 stone but I’ve always kept the last stone. I am now 12/14 uk.

I work full time and have two children . I eat healthy for the most part and walk and exercise. When I am super strict which feels so much harder at 40 I am a size 12 but unlike in my 30s it seems so much harder to lose weight now . I feel crap in my clothes and I wish and dream of being a size 10. Call me pathetic !

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs. They have all lost around 2/3/4 stone and are all now looking fab . All the women are now in size 8 jeans and I am jealous. I sound pathetic . None of these ladies were any bigger than a 14/16 to start with.

I totally understand these jabs are so life changing for so many people who need them but it seems in my life everyone has taken them and gone from a 14/16 to a size 8/6 size Uk and I can’t help but feel like if I just bloody jump on the bandwagon I will feel good, feel happy and be slim.

Now everyone around me is so slim I feel ever more aware of my size .

I want to state I exercise and do eat a healthy diet . I have just found after two babies and getting older unless I basically stick to 1200 calories a day I can’t maintain a size 12.
Ahhhhhh. Sorry for sounding so so so vain.

Some people have constant food thoughts like what shall I have for breakfast, lunch, dinner. What's in the fridge that I can snack on, oh I fancy some chocolate, I could eat some crisps etc etc etc.

It just all disappears to the point it's hard to find things you fancy to eat.

I liked that part of it but food noise was relentless for me before the jabs.

Not everyone gets bad side effects though so at a size 20-22 a lot of people would think it's worth at least trying.

Unfortunately, I did get bad side effects with the dreaded sulphur burps, nausea and vomiting so for me the risks of making myself even sicker seemed stronger then the benefits. I'm a size 16 and trying to diet the traditional way but it's hard!

I think most of us can relate to the "food noise" and in the time I was taking a weight loss drug that disappeared completely.

OP if you have suffered from eating disorders then you won't qualify for WLI. For a good reason, they are very likely to cause you to relapse. Please be sensible and step away from the idea.

Oh wow so much misinformation here.

Firstly, anyone who posts offering to share their code needs to have their advice discounted. You get £40 off but do do they. I have a code too but wont be sharing it because I want you to trust in what I'm saying.

People who get in trouble on these drugs do so because they dont meet the 30 BMI or 27 with issues criteria. Anyone who is prescribing to people outside of that or doesn't say that informing your GP is mandatory is a charlatan and I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole. The requirement to inform your GP will be mandatory going forward I believe. You have to answer questions and send photos in and you are prescribed it. If they aren't happy with your photos or information they wont prescribe until they are.

Price wise there is a comparison website which I wont link but you can Google it for yourselves. Make sure you check the price for 5mg and 7.5mg doses too, although you can move between pharmacies.

I'm on my second pen now. I dont meet the 30 BMI but I do have high BP and am over 27 so I've been legitimately prescribed it. I've stayed on the 2.5mg and will go up to 5mg for the next pen.

You see all these photos online of people losing 2 stone in a month. For me I lost 4lb the first week, nothing for the next 3 weeks then 4lb again this week. I'm also recovering from surgery (I checked my own GP was happy with me taking the medication due to this and they were) and the more weight I lose, the less pain I'm feeling in certain parts of my body. Due to this I can't really exercise atm, just a bit of physio stuff.

I dont calorie count because I barely eat anything but when I do, eating fatty food etc feels like a waste because I'm not putting that much into my body so when I do, it should be something good. Food noise has completely gone but it's hard because I never think "ooh I fancy X for dinner" because I don't really crave anything anymore.

I'm really hoping this eases some of my chronic pain and if I'm really lucky might mean I can come off BP meds.

My SIL has been on the injections for a few months and she looks absolutely wonderful. I am a bit jealous to be honest because I am overweight after a being fairly average weight my whole life, but I’m not quite overweight enough to qualify for the jabs. I know I should eat less and make better choices, but I have a lot of stress in my life and am struggling massively with emotional eating. When I’m feeling jealous of my lovely SIL, I have to remind myself that she was obese and had joint, back and other medical issues. Her weight loss may have caused her to look fabulous, but more importantly it has decreased her current health issues and also decreased her chances of accruing more health issues. And that is much, much more important than how she looks. I ‘just’ need to quit with the Pringles and ice cream and get up off my arse before my weight gets out of control.

Obesity is a disease and once you get into that cycle it is very, very hard to get out. I read ‘Why We Eat Too Much’ and it helped me understand more about the physiological functioning of the hunger/satiety hormones and how they can become defective due to our western diet, in particular processed/ultra processed foods and that deadly and addictive combination of sugar and fat. Far be it from me to preach though, as my poor diet is currently sending me on a trajectory of insidious weight gain.

Most who stop the jabs will put the weight back on plus have nausea, stomach and mood issues to contend with. Don't feel jealous, be glad you don't have to put quite a serious drug into your system.
I think they're great for obese people as the benefits outweigh the risks but I've seen so many people go too far with them and it's taken fat they need, taken their muscle, they look much older and they've ended up with other health problems.

The best weight loss programmes I ever discovered was heartbreak or bereavement or poverty is a good one.

Basically find something you love that occupies you completely so that you completely forget to snack all day. It’s really simple, reduce the number and size of meals per day. If it is not going to interfere with your health, eating everyday is not necessary unless you need vast amounts of calories because you have a heavy duty physical job.

Op, if you have eating disorders these drugs aren't for you.
You have to fill out a lengthy questionnaire and they do ask about eating disorders. The company supplying the WLI also inform your GP that you are taking this. So you would need to lie on your questionnaire, but presumably your GP knows about the eating disorders and would inform your provider.

Oh I also only had a bit of nausea two days after my first jab but no other side effects.

Same OP! Not that I’m envious of the people who really need it, I’m so glad they have the option to change their life.

But food is a daily struggle for me, I’m crippled by food noise and emotional eating. I eat healthy meals, walk 11k steps a day, run and lift weights multiple times a week. But the idea of having the absolute freedom from not thinking about food constantly would also be life changing for me, just in a different way. Alas my BMI is less than 25 so I don’t feel comfortable lying to get them.

Disagree. Join a healthy macros based group and see how many calories women are eating. I'm on just under 1800 but could even be on 1900 if I wanted. Exercise is included in these calories but it's even more important is the activity whilst not doing exercise. It's called NEAT.

You are right but pretty much everyone I know on it seemed to lose weight straight away. Many were visibly thinner within 2 weeks.
Just switched them off food.

It's not just about looking good. I really do want something that stops me bingeing on wine and helps my sleep apnea.

There’s a lot of misinformation on this thread regarding MJ but I’m not going to bother with that as no matter what you say someone always comes in and repeats the same ill-informed nonsense.

But the parameters of BMI are quite surprising, what you might consider a bit overweight might be categorised as obese.

You don’t know exactly what someone weighs. Most of my friends were genuinely surprised I was categorised as obese.

It doesn’t melt fat away, you have to still diet, you just don’t think about food 24/7.

So it’s not a big mystery or complicated, it’s just rather expensive.
And people do lie but things will tighten up over time - also if it was available via GP’s then the lying couldn’t happen - so it’s ironic we are all slagging each other off and yet a life changing drug and one that could save the NHS millions is being subcontracted, so to speak.

What dose are you on? And how long have you been on them?

Ozempic is available in a once a day pill form - Rybelsus

From what I've read people coming off weight loss drugs suffer the same issues people do when coming off any diet. There is a high risk of putting weight back on again, unless you change your lifestyle while on the drugs and can stick to those lifestyle changes when you stop the jabs.

I know some people intend to stay on them for life on low maintenance doses but don't know if it will still work on low doses, hopefully it will for them. Though not everyone likes the idea of staying on drugs for life or can afford them if prescribed via a private pharmacy.

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs. They have all lost around 2/3/4 stone and are all now looking fab . All the women are now in size 8 jeans and I am jealous. I sound pathetic . None of these ladies were any bigger than a 14/16 to start with.

OP do you know all these stats for definite or are you just guessing? Are many of these women very tall?

To have 4 stone to lose and be in 14/16 clothes would be unusual unless someone is very tall. I'm 5 ft 4 and have lost 4 stone on MJ, prior to starting I was in size 18 -20 clothes. I'm now a size 12 - to get into a size 8 I'd have to lose probably another 2 stone which would then be a 6 stone loss. I'm not going to because at almost 50 I'd look ill.

It sounds like you are just into your 40s. As someone about 10 years ahead of you my advice is let go of your younger self as far as possible. I was a size 6 in my teens and a size 8-10 through my 20s and most of my 30s. For the vast majority of women a very low BMI is not sustainable as we age. A healthy one, yes, but a goal of being a size 8 through our latter decades is not helpful IMO.

I say this with kindness because age 40 -50 is a big transitionary period and readjusting expectations is part of that. Mentally I found that more difficult at 40 than at 49. I also weight train now because I want to be strong, I want my bones to be strong to carry me into old age, I want to be healthy, I don't want to be obese but I don't desire being skinny either.

Don't worry about what other people are doing, work out what is best for you to be healthy.

Your eating disorder is the real issue here OP.

Thank you for saying this, I have been pilloried to the point of not posting by people telling me 1200 is too low. I've gained on Fast 800 FFS because it is really hard to stick to without MJ. In three weeks it will have been 2 years and I have lost and maintained 5 stone. From a size 20 to a 12/14 I am still not in the overweight area, I'm still obese at BMI 32 and I'm still dropping about 2lb a month. It's really hard in a sedentary job and nearly 56 years old. I am on the maintenance plan with oushk as I hope to get to maintenance soon and will take it for life.

A colleague has track marks and has lost a lot of weight very quickly (size 16 to size 6/8).

I genuinely have no idea if it's these jabs or good old-fashioned heroin.

I would be very concerned about muscle and bone loss with any quick weight-loss method.

I do - I crave chocolate however much protein I'm eating.

But you don’t care that that’s all you can eat. Food isn’t this big ‘thing’ that takes up all your thinking time!

I bet you look nice at size 12 OP. I would try to reframe your thinking with this. If you were a 10 when young and a 12 now, that’s pretty natural ageing. Society doesn’t seem to accept women aging. Some people were built to be a size 8. Most aren’t.

Just a word of warning for you, menopause comes to fuck you so hard with weight gain. I would try to feel happy at 12 and try to keep weight steady through menopause.

I’ve been listening to a really interesting podcast series about diet culture which has included talk about weight loss injections. Definitely recommend anyone thinking about them to have a listen. One of their experts pointed out in an interview I listened to yesterday that some people who have complicated relationships with food and dieting would be better off spending the money on therapy to help them heal rather than on these injections. And I think that’s a fair point, it’s clear they work for the majority but most people won’t be on them for life so are likely to regain the weight when they stop. The podcast series was ‘should I delete that’.

I’m 43, obese with a BMI of 33 and I’ve been so tempted but I’m 8lbs down since Christmas just doing old fashioned calorie counting and exercise. I’m using butchers and eating around 1600-1700 a day. I do have food noise but have planned my meals and snacks so I'm not feeling deprived. I’m eating a varied diet and have been out to eat multiple times and drank most weekend in February and still lost. It’s slower than if I was on the injections I’m sure but I’m trying to create habits so I don’t put the weight back on.

You are right to be cautious, OP. Weight loss jabs remain a completely unnatural way to lose weight and the effect on the digestive system is alien to how a healthy human body is designed to function.

I wouldn’t go there, for the same reason I won’t have myself injected with the biggest poison known to mankind (Botox). It’s vanity, to a frankly idiotic degree.

Just keep reminding yourself that there is no such thing as a free lunch in life. I predict there will be a mass class action in years to come.

@BurgundyZero you must be on very good terms with your colleague as the 4mm needle goes into your arse or top of thigh normally.