To be jealous of everyone getting slim in weight loss jabs while I get fatter !

[Sundayslump]

Okay - lighthearted ? Maybe.

I’ve been lucky to grow up and be a size 10 . Had a baby at 27. Lost all the weight but my body changed. Baby 2 , again gained 4 stone but I’ve always kept the last stone. I am now 12/14 uk.

I work full time and have two children . I eat healthy for the most part and walk and exercise. When I am super strict which feels so much harder at 40 I am a size 12 but unlike in my 30s it seems so much harder to lose weight now . I feel crap in my clothes and I wish and dream of being a size 10. Call me pathetic !

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs. They have all lost around 2/3/4 stone and are all now looking fab . All the women are now in size 8 jeans and I am jealous. I sound pathetic . None of these ladies were any bigger than a 14/16 to start with.

I totally understand these jabs are so life changing for so many people who need them but it seems in my life everyone has taken them and gone from a 14/16 to a size 8/6 size Uk and I can’t help but feel like if I just bloody jump on the bandwagon I will feel good, feel happy and be slim.

Now everyone around me is so slim I feel ever more aware of my size .

I want to state I exercise and do eat a healthy diet . I have just found after two babies and getting older unless I basically stick to 1200 calories a day I can’t maintain a size 12.
Ahhhhhh. Sorry for sounding so so so vain.

Where are people getting it? If you are not obese?

Yep obese.
Me. Size 16. Weight 15 stone 4lb
BMI 34.8

I’m not defending her. Im agreeing with her.

And I don’t have to explain myself. Your posts speak for themself very loudly and very clearly.

Many people are talking about ‘food noise’ - all this junk food has us craving and addicted. I love junk food, but the less I eat, the less I find myself a slave to it

You don't understand food noise. It's not about junk food for starters.

There's no such thing as ozempic arse - that's a weight loss arse. And it's a weight loss arse when they haven't been doing enough/any exercise to build their glutes up. They'd have the same arse if they lost weight through diet alone and did no exercise.

What a load of shit

Oh you can’t explain what you mean by “cowardly window dressing “ then.
Just a random insult with no substance.

Their sizes are hidden away at the back and the smaller sizes are celebrated at the front and the women have to do less work to find what they need- like they're rewarded somehow for maintaining a slimmer figure.

What a ridiculous paranoid assumption.
The reason for the smaller sizes in front is to show the outfits on numerical order, smallest usually holds the shape on a hanger.
If a size 20 is in the front, it would cover the outfits and is off shape, therefore not showing in the best light.
I've always been a size 8 and often had to rummage through rails.

If you could lose weight by adding a brisk walk into your routine and doing some intermittent fasting - well, great! Clearly you don't have the need for those drugs and don't need to worry about all the counter-arguments and concerns voiced on this thread. Your life is so much easier than the life of someone who does struggle with obesity.
As a comparison, I can easily have 2 drinks and then stop. I wouldn't start a thread about alcohol addiction and ask why support is necessary - just don't drink so much!

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I had to send my height weight and a picture of myself full length.

As a comparison, I can easily have 2 drinks and then stop. I wouldn't start a thread about alcohol addiction and ask why support is necessary - just don't drink so much!
Do you agree that those who suffer food noise are suffering from an addiction to food.
I have been through the 12 step program many years ago, hugely beneficial to understanding obsessive thinking.
It's not different for a drug addicts or alcoholic trying to ignore the calling for their fix, the bottle of wine or grandma handbag for drug money.
Therefore I think therapy is a must.

The Fast 800 is very effective.

Can I also say that I can almost guarantee you are eating more than 1200 calories. You need to measure every portion. Buy a set of food scales and measure out each portion.

if you are maintaining your weight at 1200 calories, you are either doing very little exercise or eating more than you think.

im peri menopausal and have gained a stone, but my hunger levels have increased and im lazier about exercise. My calorie count has gone up and im exercising less. I think this is why we gain weight during menopause

Because, unless you're really tall, a size 14/16 is probably obese according to bmi calculator. Just because it's the average size doesn't mean it's healthy.

I'm 5'8" and started wli at a size 16 and my bmi was 36. I'm now a size 14 and my bmi is still just over 30.

I think sizes mean nothing really. My BMI is 24 and I am a 12 in most things.

Agree - I’m a size 16 and well into the obese category.

Although I don’t feel that fat because my size isn’t unusual amongst other middle aged women. I would prefer to be a size 12/14 though.

What a load of bollocks. Exercise and weights can help with toning up from weight loss.

16 may or may not be healthy for other middle aged women but not for Asian women like me with very little muscle.

Same. Has to fill in stats and send a picture and agree that they contact my GP. The meds are on my GP record - I checked.

I’d say 99.9% do have a prescription. There is so much bullshit on here. If you order from eg boots, Asda, MedExpress or whatever YOU HAVE A PRESCRIPTION. You are prescribed it by a pharmacist.

You cannot currently get it from your GP for weight loss. It’s not people trying to get them by illicit means - your GP does not prescribe them and yes you can go and have a chat to them about it but you won’t get them from your GP.

There are lots of people on here who just do not get it with regards to binge eating. It’s a compulsion and it’s nigh on impossible for some people to resist binge urges (which is what WLIs reduce). Imagine if someone made you drink two litres of water and then said you couldn’t go to the loo for six hours despite your body’s urges. And then imagine if I smugly weighed in and said “surely you can just hold it in - if you wanted to, you could”. Bariatric doctors have understood this stuff for decades and I remember watching a programme where a doctor patiently explained that once you reach morbid obesity, it’s more or less impossible to reach and maintain a healthy weight without intervention. This was in the days pre-WLI. That is due to various hormones in your body that will fight tooth and nail to make you fat again if by some miracle you do manage to sustain a diet every single day for the 2+ years it would take to lose the weight. These hormones are regulated by GLP-1 medication.

Nobody wants to be fat. Why the fuck would you? So maybe engage your brain and realise that it’s far far more complex than “just don’t buy the biscuits” and that if you are of a normal weight you are lucky enough not to have what afflicts obese people.

Do you agree that those who suffer food noise are suffering from an addiction to food @EmeraldShamrock000 I think there are similarities, certainly. And in a way, it's even harder if you have the constant food noise - it's not like you can go cold turkey and not eat at all.
In my natural state, I think about food ALL THE TIME. I wake up thinking about food, what I will eat, when I will eat. It is exhausting. But I assumed everybody is like that. When people first started talking about food noise, I asked my naturally slim DH and he said no, he does not think about food at all, only just before mealtimes when he's getting hungy. I don't get hungry, at all, food noise is not the same.
People who kindly recommend that one should just not buy the bisquits clearly don't function like I do. And MJ has removed this noise and made me 'normal'. That's it. Now I can also 'just' eat less. So easy.

Exactly. Unless you are 5ft 9 or above, if you wear a 16, you are highly likely to be obese or at least very overweight. People seem to think that obesity is where people are over 20 stone and struggle to walk. It’s not - it’s actually very “normal looking” and many many obese people probably wouldn’t even look “fat”. At my highest weight a few years ago, I was BMI 33, so much closer to morbidly obese than normal weight. I didn’t have rolls of fat or huge stomach overhang or any of the things you might associate with being obese. I looked average/normal but I sure as shit was very unhealthy and struggled with stairs.
So actually being size 14/16 can well be a health issue as it will increase the risk of various medical conditions.

I don't think that's a food addiction, that food noise. I think it's often to do with blood sugar fluctuations and insulin resistance.

I don't think it's "normal" to not think about food at all, particularly as a woman with the mental load of feeding the family.

For me, the most interesting change is not the lack of food noise but the fact that even when I get hungry I can just choose to ignore it until later. I'm not a 'super responder' and by day 6 I do find my appetite increasing slightly - today I had breakfast at 6.30 and I'm a bit peckish now. This would be usual pre Mounjaro but I would have to go and make a second breakfast due to the total preoccupation with food. Now I'm like meh - I'll wait til later. Just a simple choice. It's so amazing! If I'm busy at a mealtime and hungry I can tell myself 'no worries, you can eat when you're finished' and that's it. I can also wait to prepare something nice rather than munch the quickest and easiest food because I'm about to chew my arm off. And this is when I'm actually feeling hunger!

Everybody is not like that. I dont think about food all that much. I have cravings but not daily or constantly. I dont binge eat except very occasionally.

That's why I am not envious of those on MJ. Likely wouldn't work for me. And I agree with those who said there should be no moral dimension to losing weight. We may need more studies. But how s person loses weight should be immaterial.

Having spoken to friends who don't have weight issues, they enjoy food, look forward to nice food, get hungry and plan meals but it's absolutely not like I experience it. They live like I am now, always.

Also, I wasn't always obese. I was always someone with a big appetite and had to keep an eye on my weight but if I crept above 25 BMI I could get it back down fairly easily. Since having a baby 17 years ago I 'got' obesity by over eating during pregnancy and never shed it. So I know what it's like to be more 'normal' than I have been since then. I know the difference.