To be jealous of everyone getting slim in weight loss jabs while I get fatter !

[Sundayslump]

Okay - lighthearted ? Maybe.

I’ve been lucky to grow up and be a size 10 . Had a baby at 27. Lost all the weight but my body changed. Baby 2 , again gained 4 stone but I’ve always kept the last stone. I am now 12/14 uk.

I work full time and have two children . I eat healthy for the most part and walk and exercise. When I am super strict which feels so much harder at 40 I am a size 12 but unlike in my 30s it seems so much harder to lose weight now . I feel crap in my clothes and I wish and dream of being a size 10. Call me pathetic !

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs. They have all lost around 2/3/4 stone and are all now looking fab . All the women are now in size 8 jeans and I am jealous. I sound pathetic . None of these ladies were any bigger than a 14/16 to start with.

I totally understand these jabs are so life changing for so many people who need them but it seems in my life everyone has taken them and gone from a 14/16 to a size 8/6 size Uk and I can’t help but feel like if I just bloody jump on the bandwagon I will feel good, feel happy and be slim.

Now everyone around me is so slim I feel ever more aware of my size .

I want to state I exercise and do eat a healthy diet . I have just found after two babies and getting older unless I basically stick to 1200 calories a day I can’t maintain a size 12.
Ahhhhhh. Sorry for sounding so so so vain.

You don’t have to fib about anything to get jab privately if overweight. They’ll want data, bloods, do a full health assessment & look at whether menopausal or post menopausal etc & make a decision accordingly. More often than not, if borderline, they’ll prescribe.

UK prisoners are given 2500 calories per day.
Concentration camp rations ranged from 500 to 800 calories per day. Most diets recommend consuming less than 1200 calories to effectively initiate weight loss, enhance hormonal balance, and stabilize blood sugar levels.

I know DP eats one meal per day, while I eat two. Both of us are very slim. DP is muscular and has spent his childhood and adulthood exercising intensely.

How has my diet changed?

I eat less of the very healthy almost UPF free meals that I’ve eaten for years. Not everyone who’s overweight has no idea of good nutrition and not everyone who’s overweight got there because they had the stereotypical Greggs for breakfast followed by more rubbish throughout the day. In fact there are those amongst the overweight community who could probably write papers on good nutrition and clean eating for eg such was their desire to help themselves but for some reason they just couldn’t put their knowledge into the sustained mental strength required to lose weight.

I have posts on the what I ate today threads but these are my meals these last two days.

Breakfast - omelette made with one egg and one egg white filled onion, tomato, peppers, spinach. Half a slice of sourdough toast and thin scrape of butter

Lunch - roast chicken and salad sandwich, frozen berries and Greek yoghurt

Dinner - bowl of homemade, hearty lentil and root vegetable soup with 100 gms of a roast turkey leg chopped up in when serving up.

Snack - homemade hummus and vegetable sticks

Its the same as what I’d eat before but somewhere in my day, usually at night, I’d secretly have another meal, another very healthy meal.

In fact I can recall being really miffed with my Dr when he questioned me on what I ate by asking me do you eat x, y, z? I was so insulted he was asking me if I ate all the fast food, chocolates, cakes, crisps, fried food normally associated with obesity but, the bottom line was I no different from everyone else who was overweight. I just pretended I was.

I take it and sadly still have all the food noise people talk about - it makes me full faster but I still crave food! Maybe will reduce with higher dosages. I don't have side effects and I wonder how much of the reduction in intake is down to eating making you feel crap afterwards.

I think most people would benefit from counselling, it's expensive and not accessible to many people.

OE anonymous is free and I think that it is really great for helping you understand an obsessive mindset and where it stems from.

Yes, there is a higher power that puts people off, though most non believer use the group members as their higher power support.

Exactly this.

I can’t believe these threads every single day - women eating hardly anything and exercising like crazy and they wonder why they can’t lose weight.

The lack of education is astounding.

I posted something similar to this in the weight loss forum. Already v slim friend now film star thin.
i think lots of women are using them to get down not to a healthy weight but get an ‘aspirationally’ slim celeb look.
I’m a healthy weight but still rocking a 29-30ninch waist after months of intense sessions and watching macros. I am an ok size for a 40 something but sure am tempted to
get on the jabs and blast a quick stone.
It sounds ridiculous but totally get why people feel it’s unfair - all that slogging away doing weights and hiit and running and cutting carbs but then the people getting the insta accolades are the ones on the jabs!!!

That isn't true. Do you know how weight loss works?

OP have you tried intermittent fasting?

I do 16:8 and find it useful for weight loss and maintaining weight. I don’t calorie count.

It’s slow but can see really good results. Fasting also has other proven health benefits. It has also taught me to sit with hunger!

The jabs put you off craving food, it's one of the reasons it works.

I eat like a bird and exercise like a demon but still have the menopausal belly.

trying to calorie count etc just took up too much space in my head

on the many occasions (calorie counting, Slimming World x 2 and an app on my phone) I have successfully lost a lot of weight. However each time it was little short of agony, I was always hungry, I thought about food all the time, socialising was a minefield due to keeping to whatever "rules" I was following at the time.

Anyone spot the pattern here?

The thing is as a society we value size 8/10 figures and demonise anything bigger. I thought about this yesterday whilst browsing the rail for a size 14. I used to be an 8 or a 10 and the clothes I needed were always at the front. Now I have to hunt through for my size and it hit me that there's almost an unconscious punishment for bigger sizes. Their sizes are hidden away at the back and the smaller sizes are celebrated at the front and the women have to do less work to find what they need- like they're rewarded somehow for maintaining a slimmer figure.

I think you should celebrate yourself for eating healthily, exercising and start putting some pictures up around you of women your size who look beautiful.

Yes. It stays in your system for up to a month so it's not as bad but studies show that once you come off them that you pile on more than before.

I've realised since posting that I exaggerated, I put on 1.5 stone after stopping. I also attended a lot of events over Christmas and was drinking alcohol which would have contributed to the weight gain. The company I buy them from made me begin again from 2.5 though so I guess the weight gain spanned a longer period as 2.5 didn't affect me much after the 15.

Another positive of the jab though is that it stops other cravings such as alcohol!

Just think of all the side effects you don't have to put up with for it, and I read somewhere that no one knows what people are burning through to lose that weight, it could be important muscles.

I've spent the last 15-20 years being a size 18/20. I'd be made up to be a 12/14! If you think you're fat at that size, then I think you need therapy. And I say this as someone who spent her teens and early twenties as a size 8!

In USA, my observations (CA) are exactly as per your slim friend. There are those who have the £ for designer clothes & life & Zimmerman etc looks a bit rubbish if not as slim as a UK 8-10 & even then toned abs required & pushing it. Tiny waist a prerequisite. NB: Meghan M. You’re looked down on as ‘fat friend’ if want to fit in. A tiny group & a first world ‘problem’.

I wouldn’t take them

im going straight for a tummy tuck after last baby is 1

im not jealous of anyone with the injections-as soon as they stop taking them they will pile the weight back on and be right back where they started

I'm sorry this is rubbish. Attached is a photo of me when I was 14 stone. I don't 'look' huge but the difference between working out at 14 stone and 12 stone is incredible. I used to get a pain in my knee and my belly obstructed many of the moves. I had sore joints after working out - elbow and shoulder mostly. Yes, I'm not going to pretend I don't look better and I am happy with that but the physical effort of carrying around several extra stones is bloody horrible.

Thanks for that. clearly, you have no idea how they work.

Don’t be jealous. Already the dangers of these jabs is becoming more apparent and I truly believe their misuse will in maybe a decade or so lead to a massive epidemic of fat jab attributed illnesses and disease.

And you have blindly ignored the rest of what I've said obviously and just picked out the one word you feel aggrieved by!
How is having your appetite suppressed by using an injection not cheating?! Willpower and sensible choices work without if you're determined enough, so why the need use an injection? I still stick by what I've said. You have your opinion and I have mine.

Is that more of an issue for those cheating system re: muscle wastage? The already ‘thin’ stands to reason you would be? Red carpet heart attacks to become a thing? Perhaps the ‘naturally’ stocky should never become ‘model thin’? Carthorses can’t & shouldn’t become show ponies?

To be fair Doctors are saying you can & will ‘pile the weight back on’ NB: lighter life ‘failures’ (plenty).

However, presumably there is a programme re: reintroduction etc that if stuck to, mitigates?

Ok, I will reword what I said to make it clearer.

You don't have to make it clearer, I know what you meant.

I guess its possible for someone with a bmi of 28 or 29 to fib about their stats and in their photo their bmi may look 30 so then they get it. But I’d suspect those numbers are small and will only work at a certain bmi.

Of the 8 people I know on it, 6 have done exactly this.

Look, I'm not against it at all - in fact, I'm very close to doing it myself. But I am weary of this narrative that everyone is only doing it for health. I'm certainly not - my primary and overriding goal is to be thin for summer before menopause takes over entirely and I lose whatever youth I have left.

Absolute nonsense.