To be jealous of everyone getting slim in weight loss jabs while I get fatter !

[Sundayslump]

Okay - lighthearted ? Maybe.

I’ve been lucky to grow up and be a size 10 . Had a baby at 27. Lost all the weight but my body changed. Baby 2 , again gained 4 stone but I’ve always kept the last stone. I am now 12/14 uk.

I work full time and have two children . I eat healthy for the most part and walk and exercise. When I am super strict which feels so much harder at 40 I am a size 12 but unlike in my 30s it seems so much harder to lose weight now . I feel crap in my clothes and I wish and dream of being a size 10. Call me pathetic !

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs. They have all lost around 2/3/4 stone and are all now looking fab . All the women are now in size 8 jeans and I am jealous. I sound pathetic . None of these ladies were any bigger than a 14/16 to start with.

I totally understand these jabs are so life changing for so many people who need them but it seems in my life everyone has taken them and gone from a 14/16 to a size 8/6 size Uk and I can’t help but feel like if I just bloody jump on the bandwagon I will feel good, feel happy and be slim.

Now everyone around me is so slim I feel ever more aware of my size .

I want to state I exercise and do eat a healthy diet . I have just found after two babies and getting older unless I basically stick to 1200 calories a day I can’t maintain a size 12.
Ahhhhhh. Sorry for sounding so so so vain.

Why does it matter if you get there with diet and exercise, and others don't? You have to weigh up the risks of whatever method you choose, but ultimately the risks of being overweight are huge long term - and that's what you need to think about!

Nobody will say oh well done for doing it that way instead of the medical way. Nobody really gives a shit. If I could afford it I'd be doing it.

I can guarantee if everyone was rationed tomorrow or sent to a concentration camp and fed rations the nation would be thinner in 2-6 months.

We eat too much.
All the other narratives are nonsense, either created and marketed by the food industry or academics talking bollox. As usual...

In the 90s a LOT of my female friends smoked to kill their appetites. And it worked

In the 90's everyone was slimmer, same here, a lot of my female friends, they stopped smoking and are mostly still slim 20 years later.

It doesn't explain why smokers these days aren't slim, well the British and Irish smokers aren't, I see it abroad and in the local hospitals.

EE smokers are slim because they are eating healthy foods too.

We all have that dream! If it were that simple we’d all just use good old fashioned willpower and get to feel smug that we’re losing weight “the right way”.

As it stands there are so many factors influencing weight gain/loss and these jabs seem to address several of those factors in one fell swoop. They seem to quiet the “food noise” (i’d never heard it described that way before these jabs became popular!) while also diminishing appetite (potentially through nausea), making it easier to stick to lower calorie intake, while also helping things like sleep and having some unknown hormonal effects that help overall with weight loss, even when eating the same as pre-jab.

I’m seriously tempted to try them as I’ve seen friends doing really well on them too. But I’m not resentful or envious of them, I’m inspired by them. Its an odd attitude to feel annoyed that other people are doing really well.

Its a bit like the crypto bubble, a popular fad that seemed to work really well for loads of people and I didn’t get involved as I didn’t understand it and figured it must be too good to be true. I’m pleased for them and a bit annoyed at myself for being too scared to give it a go!

Now if they lose all their money - or in the case of MJ find out there’s some unpleasant long term side effects - I’ll be glad I stayed out of it. But I won’t be jealous in the meantime that they’re doing better than me - they’re happy with the risk.

@User14March yes, I think this is the thing. If greed is hormonally driven, then food noise exists. And if it was just a case of fat people being greedy because that's in our personalities, you'd have people pushing through the discomfort to eat despite the negative consequences. Or people not wanting to start the jabs in the first place because it will get in the way of their consumption. The "it's just greed" theory does not stack up for me.

I had already lost five stone when I went on Wegovy. I had a very serious reaction due to gallstones. I am now having to have my gallbladder removed.

How did I lose the five stone? By giving up drinking and the cheese and crisps that went with it. I eat lots of veg and fruit anyway.
Wegovy did change my taste buds and I don't get food noise but I didn't have any booze cravings which I did have even years after giving up the booze.
I didn't like the effect on my bowels either. Food passes through more slowly. It gave me constipation.
I am now six stone lighter in part to my hospital stay!
I work in an industry which is looks orientated. Only six senior women exist at my level and four are slim. I've suffered discrimination through my late thirties and forties. I am retiring at the end of the year and I can't wait to ditch the spanx!
I'm happy at a 14/16 as I'm 5' 10''.i have a large chest and if I go any smaller I look daft. My teenage years were hell. Smutty comments etc.

I think the science behind the WLJ is amazing and my doctor friends have told me they have reduced the number of people going abroad for cheap and risky baratric surgery. The formulas are now being tested on dementia and arthritis.
I've never felt inferior to thin people due to my career but that's my personal confidence not everyone will feel the same.

My SIL lost four stone on fast800
and has kept it off for years.
I defi eat smaller portions and stop when I'm full. I'm lucky my DH just has what I'm having.

Surely you can regain muscle via gym etc? Hard but not impossible. Bone health & maintaining muscle mass very important esp for menopausal & post menopausal women. Not enough thought seems to be given. Being fairly immobile at 70 not fun.

You’ve heard wrong

It is harder to loose weight as you get older. I'm 60 and it's a slog to stay where I want to be weight wise. I have always been slim so it's a relatively small amount but oh my word it's much harder now then when I was younger. I do sympathise OP.

It was an artificial preservative in the Amoy brand soy sauce. When I clicked on it for further information it said something about potential to affect you. No idea if this is true or not.

Where is this wonderful country where you can get it so easily?

Yes, I agree but ultimately the analogy of a concentration camp is an extreme example. There’s more every that actually it’s more complex for a lot of people than calories in, calories out. Insulin resistance affects things a lot so the food we eat makes a difference. Trying to keep your insulin levels consistent could help. And this is where UPFs and convenience food plays a part. And also some people have naturally different levels of insulin resistance.

i have a colleague who even in late 50s is slim as anything, never diets, is addicted to chocolate and eats 4-5 bars a day and does no exercise. She definitely eats more than me and exercises less. I really don’t think she’s buliemic 🤷‍♀️

Even if they do cause nausea, they are amazing for some people, sick of reading horror stories of women dying after gastric surgery, left with life altering problems.

There is a 1000 reasons why people are overweight, they don't matter, to have invented a drug that helps people lose weight is amazing, be happy it is available for them.

If I could sort out my issues with a jab, I wouldn't hesitate to take it.

Obesity has significant financial repercussions for the UK economy, totaling an estimated £100 billion annually. This staggering figure encompasses a range of costs, including healthcare expenses related to obesity-related diseases, lost productivity in the workforce, and the broader impact on social services.

What is your argument regarding this matter? I have thoroughly researched and reviewed various studies on the subject. This extensive empirical evidence indicates that the jabs are remarkably effective for weight loss. The food and beverage industry might not appreciate these findings, as they could disrupt their marketing strategies. Therefore, it’s reasonable to anticipate a significant backlash from this industry as they react to the growing acceptance of the jabs and their implications for public health.

I'm in the middle east. also to the point from *User14March i am strength training 4 times a week, running twice a week. i get my body scanned regularly. no los of muscle, in fact i've gained on my upper body. body fat has gone down 2%. *

all people can be greedy

Why did you respond with a laugh emoji to that, OpenOliveCat?

Ok, I will reword what I said to make it clearer. You either have to be obese or at least look obese. You are obese so you qualify even if you think don’t look obese….which you may well not do if sporty, etc.

what I meant by what I said was that I guess its possible for someone with a bmi of 28 or 29 to fib about their stats and in their photo their bmi may look 30 so then they get it. But I’d suspect those numbers are small and will only work at a certain bmi. People with a bmi of 18 aren’t going to get away with that.

I can guarantee if everyone was rationed tomorrow or sent to a concentration camp and fed rations the nation would be thinner in 2-6 months.

and? Concentration camps would probably also 'cure' alcoholism and gambling addiction, so therefore people struggling are just lazy and should, dunno, go for a brisk walk?

I use mounjaro and have lost 5 stone. I had a similar weight pattern to yours but 3 years on anti-depressants after grief and trauma etc I really piled on the pounds quickly.
I started the jab last May and by Nov had lost 5 stone. I came off the jab. By the time Jan came around I'd put 2 back on. I'm now back on the jab but I'm not going to steam through the increments. I'm happy at a size12 and feel comfortable with myself. 10-12 was my natural weight.
I urge you not to even start them. You sound healthy and honestly, it's not worth spending money to become dependent upon a jab. When people stop them they're even hungrier than before even if they've had a healthy lifestyle on them. I've seen it on forums repeatedly what happens to people when they quit. I'll be on them for life now probably because I can't trust myself. I was always fit and healthy though and the jab has brought my exercise pattern back thank God but, other than not being in the obese range, it hasn't brought anymore joy to my life. I hope that provides you with a balanced(ISH) perspective.

Because you're making me laugh, free floating.
Hilarious, comedic...

I bet everyone around you knows who you really are. Don’t fool yourself into thinking that this anonymous posts hides who you really are to others.

Well no, it would depend on the food they were given. These days the cheapest and most likely foods would be UPFs and everyone would gain weight, I suspect. Like people do when they go to prison. But gain or lose, they'd probably all be malnourished which I think we can all agree is what we're trying to avoid.

This what I find, on the many occasions (calorie counting, Slimming World x 2 and an app on my phone) I have successfully lost a lot of weight. However each time it was little short of agony, I was always hungry, I thought about food all the time, socialising was a minefield due to keeping to whatever "rules" I was following at the time. When I am not "dieting" I don't behave in this way, I try to eat home cooked fresh and really food, have a take away about three times a year, walk everywhere and although I would like to be slimmer I just don't have the right mind set

Are you really ‘hungrier than ever before’ post jab?