To be jealous of everyone getting slim in weight loss jabs while I get fatter !

[Sundayslump]

Okay - lighthearted ? Maybe.

I’ve been lucky to grow up and be a size 10 . Had a baby at 27. Lost all the weight but my body changed. Baby 2 , again gained 4 stone but I’ve always kept the last stone. I am now 12/14 uk.

I work full time and have two children . I eat healthy for the most part and walk and exercise. When I am super strict which feels so much harder at 40 I am a size 12 but unlike in my 30s it seems so much harder to lose weight now . I feel crap in my clothes and I wish and dream of being a size 10. Call me pathetic !

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs. They have all lost around 2/3/4 stone and are all now looking fab . All the women are now in size 8 jeans and I am jealous. I sound pathetic . None of these ladies were any bigger than a 14/16 to start with.

I totally understand these jabs are so life changing for so many people who need them but it seems in my life everyone has taken them and gone from a 14/16 to a size 8/6 size Uk and I can’t help but feel like if I just bloody jump on the bandwagon I will feel good, feel happy and be slim.

Now everyone around me is so slim I feel ever more aware of my size .

I want to state I exercise and do eat a healthy diet . I have just found after two babies and getting older unless I basically stick to 1200 calories a day I can’t maintain a size 12.
Ahhhhhh. Sorry for sounding so so so vain.

What is to be jealous of? I would not have a jab if you paid me a million quid

not willing to risk my eyesight even the slightest risk is too much for me, bloody crackers imo

I am plump but not obese

I agree but the ready access to very fattening cheap food is the main one.

Off topic, but actually the theory that depression is caused by chemical imbalance eg low serotonin is disputed and is not backed up by evidence…..

@LolaLouise thats really interesting. I’m reading up about UPFs (ultra processed people) and a friend of mine is really into this and convinced that the shit put into food is making people crave more shit. Like small kids going nuts for McDonald chicken nuggets in a way they wouldn’t do over a homemade nugget. She thinks it re wires something in your brain/taste receptors.

And I can believe that. I’ve downloaded the Yuka app and am scanning labels and it’s scary how much food you wouldn’t realise has stuff in it which we shouldn’t be eating. I put back the sliced chicken breast yesterday due to the preservatives. One brand of soy sauce was “bad” due to preservatives but a different brand didn’t have the preservatives so was fine. I’m hoping making small changes like this will help.

There are quite a few of those reasons I am not keen to go back to. I mean whilst people were thinner in the past life expectancy was shorter too.

Fair enough. I’ve never had depression so no expert. Maybe the nhs should stop all the antidepressants then and tell people to get a grip. 🤷‍♀️. Or maybe some people just need more help. Who knows.

Get yourself a set of resistance bands and start building muscle. Muscle is the best way to burn fat. I can eat 1600 - 1800 kcal a day and stay the same weight (56kg) I'm almost 43. I work out 3 times a week for one hour each time and work out my entire body (3 set rotation).

This is an excellent post. I was slim until menopause, and now have a little menopot belly in my late 50s. I’m a size 14 and 5’7”. I was a size 12 before. Less estrogen shifts weight from hips to belly. I am concentrating now on making sure I exercise every day via brisk walking for 60-90 mintues, do yoga for flexibility and am starting strength training. I eat healthily, but I don’t starve myself, and yes, I have some wine on the weekends, but don’t drink during the week.

It is less about the dress size than about health now. I’m not going to look like I was when younger, and that’s OK. I am damn near 60! The fact I am mobile, healthy, sleep well, etc, is priceless.

If WLJ helps people that are obese, that’s great…it solves a lot of accompanying health problems. But if not, at some level you have to accept you are aging. It is normal, and it is OK.

This explains it perfectly.

The hormone injections are just a tool to enable people to eat less and move more. If you have spent forty years doing every diet available, and are still obese, it makes sense to try a different method.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I was obese and had arthritis and high cholesterol. Since losing weight with WLI I can exercise more easily as my arthritic joints are less stressed, and I no longer have to take statins.

I take a micro dose of WLI to maintain my weight. I have saved the NHS significant amounts of money. But some people really can’t bear the idea of fatties getting slim.

It isn’t cheating to use HRT, so why is it cheating to use WLI? WHO is being cheated?

How do you know that? I mean I remember in my childhood that in Italy and France in people seemed thinner than their British counterparts.

Whilst their diets were better they all smoked like chimneys too. Maybe you don't crave unhealthy food so much if you are getting your kicks in other ways?

Further into the past I expect food shortages and disease were the main reasons.

In the past why were people thinner?

I can think of the following possible reasons why people were thinner in the past, more apply the further back you go.

Smoking
More manual labor
No cars
Lack of food
Less palatable food
Less varied food
Less convienent food
No upfs
Untreatable worm infestations
Dirty water, so frequent stomach upsets
No antibiotics so people ill with other diseases and able to eat less
More people died young so less middle aged people to be fat in the first place
Breast feeding
No central heating

That's sounds like a lot of negative feedback.
There were positive reasons too, it was unheard of to snack throughout the day, between meals, meals were potatoes, veg, meat.

Last meal teatime.
Walking everywhere.
Socially outdoors, no Internet ot 100 channels to choose from.
Regular disco ball nights.
No giant sharing bags of treats.
Other than smoking, they were healthier.
Vaping is much more popular these days with every age group participating.

If people stopped eating by 7/8pm they'd be much fitter.

Can you tell me more about the Soy sauce. What should be avoided? I tend to buy the own brand soy sauce, but do wonder at the huge price discrepancy. Same with tins of coconut milk.

Food noise is different to hunger. See my earlier post.

The people who have been reasonably thin their entire lives, who do have to make active choices not to over eat and exercise, but find those choices much easier to maintain, are being cheated out of their feeling of being superior. Thats the long and short of it.

I can't imagine why anybody doesn't want 'fatties to be slim'. Do you really think this? Who really cares? Anybody who is close to you would be pleased for you, surely?

One question I wanted to ask is to those who are taking weight loss jabs, how has your diet changed? I ask because I read a long thread about 'what we eat now' (looking for inspiration on some good meal combinations generally) and there are many entries of UPF foods. Many. Does the drug not stifle these at all?

I think this will be the eventual outcome over time - really have no problem with it. People of size 14,12 who feel more comfortable at a 10 or 8. Sn choose to do so. That’s the case in LA. I still think significant health benefits in that even on joints, sugar intake, inflammation. People will be on a micro doses for rest of their life to stay at their ideal weight. In the same way we take vitamins & supplements

How would anybody know though? If you do WW or SW or injections...? I can't believe that people invest that much thought in other people's clothes sizes.

My diet hasn't changed much, as I was already vegan and ate a lot of fresh home cooked food. We already tried to reduce UPFs so I bake my own sourdough bread for example. But I no longer get sugar cravings which is where the shit food came in, and I simply eat a lot less of the same food and don't snack between meals.

I watched people around me lose weight and I struggled for 2 years and ended up bigger despite constant attempts that left me feeling like a fat failure. In 2020 I was size 8-10 and running a half marathon but life got tricky and the emotional eater took over. I ended up size 16 and 3 stone over weight. In October a friend mentioned she was losing weight and said she loves mounjaro, told me about it and it gave me the confidence to try it. I’ve been on it since November and initially was odd food entirely but now I enjoy food but can make better choices and I eat less overall. It’s been life changing and I’m feeling much more myself. I’ve lost 2 stone and still have a few lbs to be a healthy bmi (about 5) but I’m back to a 12. I’m not looking to be a size 8 and no one I know has gone that far. I look gaunt and older as that size.

I’m so glad I’ve not wasted another year in my 40s being fat.

I eat the same as i did before mostly, just much less of it. I home cooked a lot of meals, not all meals, because 13 hours shifts meant i just cannot be arsed, but a lot of our diet was homecooked. But my portions would be larger, or id eat left overs later into the night. Id have a venti frappe basically everytime i left the house, id snack on sweets and biscuits at work to power through shifts, id mindlessly eat crisps at night whilst watching tv, all those behaviours have changed as i just dont think about the frappe or the crisps any more. But the meals are the same. My go to after work meal now is sticky rice with a tin of tuna in spring water, cucumber, spring onion, then soya sauce, sesame oil, sesame seeds, siracha, and mayo. Still quick, probably contains some preservatives etc, but far better than the ready meals i used to grab for convience.

What would happen if a person got diabetes while taking these jabs? Could it happen and would it mean just an adjusted dose of it to sort out the diabetes? Maybe it prevents diabetes I don't know.

Thanks to the posters advising what they eat now, it's really useful. I'm trying (hard) to reduce UPFs and I broadly follow WW (not particularly closely), but I've noticed that I have less heartburn and less tiredness with foods that don't contain 'other stuff' in them, the same when I cook with them - much better for me.

I have gallbladder issues and tomatoes are a definite 'thing' if I use tinned ones but if I peel, remove skin and seeds from fresh ones, I'm ok!

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs.

You move in very different circles to me (and as far as I'm aware I'm Jo Average).

Each to their own I think. Personally I don’t like taking medication unless absolutely necessary. The side effects would worry me to much. I’m mid 40’s and need to tone. I try and fit it in but life is busy.

Have a look through the posts on here, not just this one, but theres plenty of historical posts from users condeming people using jabs as they have to put in effort to stay thin,and how dare there be a jab that people can use to cheat their way to looking like they do. Its rife. Theres comments all over SM from people who have no reason to dislike the jabs other than its taking away their ability to feel superior to the fat people.

I can tell you have spent 20 years of my life, either being openly judged by people, or invisible. Invisable i didnt mind, i actually dislike the feeling of not being invisable anymore, particularly at work. Going from feeing like you dont exist to having people actively try and talk to you in a short space of time is bizarre. The only thing that has changed is my clothing size, people care more than they let on, or dont realise they treat people differently because of their dress size,